Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with > sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order > of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). > > Additionally, this slow tty/session creation time i

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-05-18 07:09 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Du, 18 mai 14, 12:49:08, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >>> Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with >>> sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order >>> of 5 seconds (wh

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:54:52AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or > >> Debian. > > > > And that is the part I don't get. Anyone is "free" to not in

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-18 07:09 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 18 mai 14, 12:49:08, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with >> sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order >> of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). > ... >>

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:36:19PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: snip > > This looks like a request for tech help, so for the life of me, I can't > imagine why the gender and age of the recipient of the help are > relevant. And then "father figure"? > > And in another post,

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 18 mai 14, 12:49:08, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with > sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order > of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). ... > Any ideas why this might be happening? As far as I recal

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread c. marlow
On 05/17/2014 10:36 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 07:38:36PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: I have checked all over google and cannot find any of the desktops in Vanilla Debian, as they're different distro to distro I am on Xubuntu 12.04 right now but one day plan on going back to Vani

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 18:30:02, The Wanderer wrote: > On 05/17/2014 03:40 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > Actually gdm3 Depends: libpam-systemd, which Depends: systemd-sysv, > > so yes, you do. network-manager and gnome-bluetooth also depend on > > libpam-systemd. > > Is this in unstable or experim

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 06:10:44PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version > > 7.5 is codenamed "Wheezy", correct? > > Yes, correct. And Testing is "Jessie". But Tails is

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 07:38:36PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: > I have checked all over google and cannot find any of the desktops > in Vanilla Debian, as they're different distro to distro I am on > Xubuntu 12.04 right now but one day plan on going back to Vanilla > Debian I liked how it only used 1

Re: Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 5/17/14, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 17.05.2014 04:27, schrieb Zenaan Harkness: >>> I have no display manager. >> >> [..] >> >>> Also, I would like to see Shutdown and Suspend enabled, of course. >> >> Most likely related to [0]. >> Make sure you have libpam

systemd - excessive session-creation time

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Although initial tty session (from boot) is quicker than with sysvinit, additional tty sessions are very slow to start, in the order of 5 seconds (which seems like an eternity). Additionally, this slow tty/session creation time is seen when: *) exiting X - ie logout back to terminal (from startx)

Re: Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/17/14, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 17.05.2014 04:27, schrieb Zenaan Harkness: >> I have no display manager. > > [..] > >> Also, I would like to see Shutdown and Suspend enabled, of course. > > Most likely related to [0]. > Make sure you have libpam-systemd installed and enabled and when > start

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 17 May 2014 21:06:42 +1200 Richard Hector wrote: > On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? > > > > There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants > > to install Tails onto a USB stick, with a pers

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wrote: > On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> Nobody forces you to install the add-on, certainly not Mozilla or >> Debian. > > And that is the part I don't get. Anyone is "free" to not install it. > This has become another "Unmarked Helicopters" issue. :/ Ric I h

Where to get older versions of pkgs

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm having plenty of trouble with the newest version of sendmail on a brand new install. I have the version numbers obtained by running: aptitude search -F sendmail '%p %v' On a machine with it installed. I understand the command necessary to install a certain version: aptitude install = But wh

Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/18/14, Ric Moore wrote: > On 05/16/2014 10:49 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> You get the world you consent to. > > Brother Zenaan, why do I hear "Unmarked Helicopters" by Soul Coughing > when these kind of issues spring up?? It's on YouTube, you'll love it! :) Thanks Ric, and Curt, and S

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Martin Vegter > Sent: 05/18/14 01:58 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: systemd situation in Jesssie > > Hello, > > I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a > regular basis, without having to worry that one of these

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Joel Rees > Sent: 05/17/14 07:06 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Tails > > Maybe the tail mailing list would be more appropriate, but the problem > is finding people in Brazil who would be willing to do a "free service > gig" by dd-ing an

Re: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Eike Lantzsch > Sent: 05/17/14 07:52 PM > To: Debian-user > Subject: [totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives > > On the contacts for the heads and also on the "washer"-shaped > contacts for the srews I found a brownish-reddish film. > I

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/17/2014 02:57 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? D

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/17/2014 07:55 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 13:08:06, Slavko wrote: Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! I never said you or I or Mozilla or Debian don't have ideals (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact I wo

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread c. marlow
On 05/17/2014 07:20 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 02:16:32PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: I am wondering where I can find the desktops thats used in the latest Debian XFCE desktop Wallpapers? I'm not sure which wallpaper you're talking about, but have you checked xfce4-artwork? Che

Re: DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 02:16:32PM -0500, c. marlow wrote: > I am wondering where I can find the desktops thats used in the latest > Debian XFCE desktop Wallpapers? I'm not sure which wallpaper you're talking about, but have you checked xfce4-artwork? Cheers, Tom -- Higher education helps your

Re: Random hard freezes Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/17/2014 2:43 AM, Mimiko wrote: > On one server I intermittently encounter hard freezes. Server does not > react, ping, or ctrl+alt+del. Just caps lock and num lock flashes. Only > a power off from button helps to start server, after which it runs until > again this happens. Flashing KB LEDs

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/17/2014 03:40 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:57:39, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At >>> the mome

new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot

2014-05-17 Thread John Bleichert
Hello All, Running jessie/sid on an i7. Just installed todays updates which included an update from 3.13-1-amd64 to 3.14-1-amd64 and the new kernel does not boot, it just stalls at "Booting the kernel" (full console below). Any idea how to debug this? The previous 3.13 kernel boots just fine!

Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Filip
On Sat, 17 May 2014 17:08:10 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > Filip writes: > > [...] > > >> I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any > >> needed directories for the pkg to operate. > >> > >> Is it normal for user to create these things? > > > > > No, it's not normal. The p

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/17/2014 01:14 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 12:34:12, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry,

Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Filip writes: [...] >> I would have thought the install of a pkg would also create any needed >> directories for the pkg to operate. >> >> Is it normal for user to create these things? > > No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a > working initial configuration where it at

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/05/2014 22:24, Tom H a écrit : > For policy-rc.d: > > What are you doing with it? > > > Mainly checking that some encrypted disk is mounted for the corresponding daemons to be started or not. And No, this encrypted disk is NOT mounted at boot, since I want this machine to be able to boot com

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/05/2014 22:18, Filip a écrit : > On Sat, 17 May 2014 22:45:53 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: >>> I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a >>> migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, >> invoke-rc.d

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/05/2014 22:02, Tom H a écrit : > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Erwan David wrote: >> Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : >>> On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie wi

Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam writes: >> No, it's not normal. The post-install scripts should create a >> working initial configuration where it at least starts up. >> >> Try reinstalling with the --reinstall option. >> >> apt-get install sendmail --reinstall >> apt-get install sendmail-base --reinstall >> apt-ge

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Erwan David wrote: > Le 17/05/2014 19:58, Martin Vegter a écrit : >> >> I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. >> At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, >> or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes sta

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Filip
On Sat, 17 May 2014 22:45:53 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: > > > > > I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a > > migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, > > invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you sho

Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Filip writes: > On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:07:56 -0400 > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit >> >> Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for >> sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. >> >> So, my fir

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/05/2014 21:45, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: >> I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a >> migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, > invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service >

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-17 21:21 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : >> On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. >>> At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay s

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Erwan David wrote: > Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : >> On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: >>> >>> I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. >>> At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, >>> o

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 12:34:12, Gary Roach wrote: > On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: > >>On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > >>>On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > >>> > Sorry, I thought I had. --print-ar

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 21:21:01, Erwan David wrote: > > So systemd-sysv is the real systemd ? or is there someting else ? systemd-sysv contains a /sbin/init symlink pointing to /lib/systemd/systemd. This will make your system boot with systemd. If you just want to test it you should rather just ins

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Martin Vegter wrote: > > I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. > At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, > or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? > > I have servers running Jessie. Can I con

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:20:28, Erwan David wrote: > > > I do not know, I check at upgrade time. And Is there somewhere a > migaration doc explaining what to do to replace invoke-rc.d, invoke-rc.d is only meant for scripts, you should be using service (which works fine with both initscripts and syste

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 20:57:39, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. > > At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, > > or will this change somewhere before Je

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Filip
On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:34:12 -0700 Gary Roach wrote: > On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: > >> On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > >>> On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > >>> > Sorry, I thought I ha

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/05/2014 20:57, Sven Joachim a écrit : > On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. >> At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, >> or will this change somewhere before Jessie becom

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/17/2014 11:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture => i386, --print-foreign-architectures => amd64 And th

Re: latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Filip
On Sat, 17 May 2014 12:07:56 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit > > Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for > sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. > > So, my first run at sendmail , just s

DEB Wheezy xfce desktops

2014-05-17 Thread c. marlow
Hello IM BACK! I am wondering where I can find the desktops thats used in the latest Debian XFCE desktop Wallpapers? Theres one I have been hunting UP AND DOWN for on google search and cant find it, it was the one I was using before I went back to Xubuntu ( just havent gotten around to reinst

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-17 19:58 +0200, Martin Vegter wrote: > Hello, > > I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. > At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, > or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? Depending on your needs, installing syst

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/05/2014 19:58, Martin Vegter a écrit : > Hello, > > I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. > At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, > or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? > > I have servers running Jessie. Can I cont

systemd situation in Jesssie

2014-05-17 Thread Martin Vegter
Hello, I am wondering whether systemd will be mandatory in Jessie. At the moment, I can install Jessie without systemd. Will this stay so, or will this change somewhere before Jessie becomes stable? I have servers running Jessie. Can I continue upgrading packages on a regular basis, without havin

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:29:43, Gary Roach wrote: > On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: > >On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > > > >>Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture => i386, > >>--print-foreign-architectures => amd64 > >And there it is - you are running a 32-

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/17/2014 08:49 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture => i386, --print-foreign-architectures => amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom And how do I

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 17 May 2014 00:12:48 Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current version > 7.5 is codenamed "Wheezy", correct? Yes, correct. And Testing is "Jessie". Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Scott Ferguson writes: > No - you didn't. Please learn to read and stop spreading more rubbish > (or just go back to setting fire to cats and winos). > Good lord Scott, we're getting a bit wild here aren't we... hehe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

latest sendmail on testing

2014-05-17 Thread Harry Putnam
Recent install of jessie as vbox guest vm on win 7 64bit Preferring sendmail to exim I installed the testing package for sendmail and of course that uninstalled a few things, including exim. So, my first run at sendmail , just starting the service # service sendmail start [] Starting

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 08:23:07AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > Sorry, I thought I had. --print-architecture => i386, > --print-foreign-architectures => amd64 And there it is - you are running a 32-bit system with a 64-bit kernel. Cheers, Tom -- QOTD: "I never met a man I couldn't drink

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Roach
On 05/17/2014 01:27 AM, Filip wrote: On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:06:51 -0700 Gary Roach wrote: Here is an attempt to answer all of the questions and suggestions: I am definitely installing Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 ( I checked the grub config files) You'll have to stop telling only half of the sto

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140517_0902+0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis > wrote: > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Brian > >> Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM > >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >> Subject: Re: Tails ...snip... > > > BTW what is Tails? Is it the next

Re: Re: DMenu for Debian 7 Xfce

2014-05-17 Thread Muntasim Ul Haque
Thanks John. I'll now use the Xfce-Settings manager instead for assigning shortcuts. -Muntasim Ul Haque -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5377743b.107

[ask] avoid conflict between 2 same usb modem

2014-05-17 Thread Morning Star
hi guys, i have 2 same 3g modem. i install the linux driver from the modem storage. if i plug the first modem into pc's usb, the 8 devices links will appear as below: crw--- 1 root root 188, 0 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB0 crw--- 1 root root 188, 1 May 17 21:18 /dev/ttyUSB1 crw--- 1 root r

Re: iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted

2014-05-17 Thread Morning Star
thanks. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:03:24PM +, Morning Star wrote: >> Hi guys, >> I got error when executing iodined at my vps: >> >> $ sudo iodined -f -P test1 192.168.0.1 localhost >> iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permi

Re: (Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 08:34:47, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: > Thanks! That did it! > > I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result. sudo can be interactive as well, try 'sudo -i' or 'sudo -s'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions

Re: (Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Gary Dale
On 17/05/14 09:34 AM, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: Thanks! That did it! I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@ieee.org On Sat, 17 May 2014, David wrote: On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: I download

(Solved) Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Thanks! That did it! I did sudo su at a terminal prompt and achieved the same result. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless fairl...@ieee.org On Sat, 17 May 2014, David wrote: On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's an

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/17/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 17 mai 14, 13:08:06, Slavko wrote: >> Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory >> Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! > > I never said you or I or Mozilla or Debian don't have ideals > (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact I would

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-16, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > BTW what is Tails? Is it the next version of Debian? The current > version 7.5 is codenamed "Wheezy", correct? Whatever Tails is god bless the plural. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: DMenu for Debian 7 Xfce

2014-05-17 Thread John L. Cunningham
Hi Muntasim, I can confirm that, once properly configured, dmenu works flawlessly in XFCE. However, I subsequently set up shortcut keys for my most used applications via the XFCE control panel, and now I find that I rarely use it. John On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 03:22:21PM +0600, Muntasim Ul Haqu

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Slavko wrote: > Andrej, > > Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 12:50:52 +0300 Andrei POPESCU > napísal: > >> Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise >> about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., >> but when you're vastly outnum

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 13:08:06, Slavko wrote: > > Can i have ideals too? Or are the ideals reserved for FSF, Cory > Doctorow, etc? Yes, i can! I never said you or I or Mozilla or Debian don't have ideals (http://www.debian.org/social_contract). In fact I would find it offensive is someone would imp

[totally OT] experience with Seagate Barracuda and NAS drives

2014-05-17 Thread Eike Lantzsch
Hi: Just asking for your experience with above mentioned hard drives. I had some 1TB and 2GB Barracuda drives failing with very erratic behaviour. As a last resort before trashing them I removed the circuit board. On the contacts for the heads and also on the "washer"-shaped contacts for the sr

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 5/17/14, Slavko wrote: > Andrej, > Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 12:50:52 +0300 Andrei POPESCU > napísal: >> Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise >> about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., >> but when you're vastly outnumbered ideals won't win th

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Slavko
Andrej, Dňa Sat, 17 May 2014 12:50:52 +0300 Andrei POPESCU napísal: > Yes, FSF and Cory Doctorow and all others are right to make noise > about this (DRM and so). It raises awareness, it sets ideals, etc., > but when you're vastly outnumbered ideals won't win the war. And > neither does attackin

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Joel Rees
Oh, for crying out loud. Look, guys, Weaver just used an unfortunate turn of phrase, one that is very easily interpreted in a way that would be really inappropriate, but was clearly not meant that way. I'm sure none of you guys have ever used words that could be misinterpreted? Артур's comments h

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 22:25:04, Linux-Fan wrote: > > As others already suggested, you are likely to use a mixed AMD64 + i386 > system BTW, until now there is *zero* evidence to support this. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users a

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 22:25:04, Linux-Fan wrote: > > As others already suggested, you are likely to use a mixed AMD64 + i386 > system which confuses the automatic installation of Virtualbox' kernel > modules. No, I believe it's much more simpler that that: $ apt-cache show dkms Package: dkms Version

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 12:06:51, Gary Roach wrote: > > Any ideas will be sincerely appreciated. I really need to get this problem > solved. We can't help you if you don't provide more information, at a minimum. dpkg --print-architecture dpkg --foreign-architectures Kind regards, Andrei -- h

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Richard Hector > Sent: 05/17/14 05:06 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Tails > > On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? > > > > There's a young, female, investigativ

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Theodore Alcapotaxis
> - Original Message - > From: Weaver > Sent: 05/17/14 03:30 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Tails > > That's exactly what it is. > Just trying to keep the girl safe, as she leaves journalist school and > heads out into the wild world of investigative journalism, which

Re: Random hard freezes Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 17 mai 14, 10:43:49, Mimiko wrote: > Hello. > > On one server I intermittently encounter hard freezes. Server does not > react, ping, or ctrl+alt+del. Just caps lock and num lock flashes. That's a "kernel panic". > Only a > power off from button helps to start server, after which it runs

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 16 mai 14, 15:38:17, Curt wrote: > On 2014-05-15, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >> https://www.fsf.org/news/fsf-condemns-partnership-between-mozilla-and-ado= > > be-to-support-digital-restrictions-management > > > > > > I use RMS as a guide in the same way that a boat captain would use a

Re: Live CD/DVD's Debian Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread David
On 17 May 2014 11:28, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: > I downloaded some .iso's for Debian Wheezy live CD/DVD's > and we could not find the superuser access since we were looking at them at > night class. > > This is for a Linux system administration class. Please copy the > Professor

DMenu for Debian 7 Xfce

2014-05-17 Thread Muntasim Ul Haque
Hi, I used Crunchbang Linux for some time. There was a great menu which would appear with Alt+F3. It's used for launching applications installed in the system. They called it Alt Menu. It's actual name may be DMenu. Now my question is, has anyone used this DMenu in Xfce? Does it work flawlessl

Re: Security updates for hold package

2014-05-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 15 mai 14, 19:35:40, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: Andrei POPESCU > > Sent: 05/15/14 04:50 AM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Security updates for hold package > > > > > > Assumptions: > > 1. You did not change the default prio

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: > Greetings all, > > Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? > > There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to > install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persist partition, but she hasn't > got the slightest idea of how to go about

Re: Will Iceweasel stay open source?

2014-05-17 Thread Curt
On 2014-05-17, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> >> "censure"? Did we miss something? Ric > > Yes :) > > Some more riveting moments... on ... Come on Down Debian .. have we > got some fun for you tonight. I never know what the hell you're talking about. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: Vertualbox installation errors

2014-05-17 Thread Filip
On Fri, 16 May 2014 12:06:51 -0700 Gary Roach wrote: > Here is an attempt to answer all of the questions and suggestions: > I am definitely installing Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 ( I checked the > grub config files) You'll have to stop telling only half of the story, if you want help with this. Yo

Random hard freezes Wheezy

2014-05-17 Thread Mimiko
Hello. On one server I intermittently encounter hard freezes. Server does not react, ping, or ctrl+alt+del. Just caps lock and num lock flashes. Only a power off from button helps to start server, after which it runs until again this happens. This is the log I've saw on monitor: __netif_rec

Re: Tails

2014-05-17 Thread Weaver
On Fri, May 16, 2014 5:02 pm, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis > wrote: >>> - Original Message - >>> From: Brian >>> Sent: 05/17/14 02:26 AM >>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >>> Subject: Re: Tails >>> >>> The adjectives describing "journalist" a

Re: squeeze lts

2014-05-17 Thread Glenn English
On May 16, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Brian wrote: > Much appreciated. Me and the OP wish we had read the page on the link > you gave. He does indeed. In answer to a question, I love to get links to a vast store of data. Thanks for the info. -- Glenn English -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-