Hijack: was Confusion

On Thu, 08 May 2014 14:18:49 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > On 05/08/2014 02:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 08 May 2014 16:31:03 +0930 > > josh wrote: [big clip] > >> And narrowing the terms > >> may just have excluded the only relevant entry. > > I think we're doing a disservice to the OP by

Help About Bootable USB

Hello,I have 3 debian DVD images.I want to run debian from a bootable usb flash.now what should i do ?wich DVD image I must use ?

Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

Hi all, A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. Know playing with several distributions, some use "service", "sysctl", "systemctl", and some of them are mentionned for managing services in Debian. Typically, on a Debi

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

I don't favor the interleaved response technique, so even if that technique is favored on this list, I'll just stay with keeping enough context so that previous messages don't need frequent reference. Next, I don't agree that this hyperthreading problem reeks of a firmware issue. What it reeks

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

On 09/05/14 06:14, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 5/8/2014 2:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: >> Especially when viewed in the light that a Linux desktop, and the >> Xorg system sits on top of a Linux server. > > Not on *mine* they don't. Anyone who puts Xorg on a linux server > (unless maybe it is their own perso

Re: Confusion

On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 04:31:03PM +0930, josh wrote: > Hi, [snip] > I have downloaded 'wheezy' and created a CD from the Iso image. When I > attempt to boot from the CD the screen image comes up, I respond to a > few options, then the system reports unable to read from the CD - which > it has, o

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 10:21:55PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 05 mai 14, 13:43:54, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > I'm confused. Wasn't what the OP wanted a boot in regular text mode, no > > GUI, no framebuffer, just ascii codes straight to the monitor? That > > happens *a long time* before t

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

On Wed, 07 May 2014 00:50:01 +0200 Glenn English wrote: > I've always installed from a netinstall, without the GUI, so that GUI init >doesn't exist on my machines. This is the case with me too but Francois Patte also ask: >I can't find any tuto for grub2 installed on my system. I don't know if

Re: Confusion

On 20140508_1631+0930, josh wrote: > Hi, > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the > Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of help > available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists where any search > immediately returns at least a mil

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

On 5/8/2014 2:11 PM, Ric Moore wrote: Especially when viewed in the light that a Linux desktop, and the Xorg system sits on top of a Linux server. Not on *mine* they don't. Anyone who puts Xorg on a linux server (unless maybe it is their own personal SOHO server - but on an internet facing m

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

On Thu, 08 May 2014, Brian wrote: > On Thu 08 May 2014 at 12:10:02 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 05 May 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > if grep -wqs text /proc/cmdline; then > > > log_warning_msg "Not starting Light Display Manager (lightdm); found > > > 'text' in ker

Re: How to get installer to align partitions on 4096 byte boundaries?

On Thu, 08 May 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: > However, it seems that nobody looked at the PowerPC. If they use parted > for that, then Henrique's point about it being complicated is probably > spot-on. I'd like to file a bug report, so at least the problem is on the > permanent record. > > Henrique,

Re: How to get installer to align partitions on 4096 byte boundaries?

On May 8, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 05 May 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: >> Bottom line: It doesn't align to 1MiB boundaries. It doesn't even align to >> 4KiB boundaries. >> >> I think we can do better than that! > > AFAIK, we do for i686 and amd64, unless it s

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 12:25:42PM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 05:50:47PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:44:14PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Joel Rees > > > > Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM > >

Re: Confusion

On Thu 08 May 2014 at 14:07:12 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 08 May 2014 16:31:03 +0930 > josh wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the > > Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of > > help available and b. di

Re: Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

On 05/08/2014 02:16 PM, A Debian User wrote: Hello, all! I want to have a completely Free install of Debian, which means I will only be using software packages from the main repo, and will be excluding contrib and non-free from my sources file. By doing so, I won't be able to install the microc

Re: Confusion

On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 02:18:49PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > I think we're doing a disservice to the OP by merely replying to a post with > a subject line like: "Confusion". Sorry, that is not a proper subject line > for a post to a tech list. Someone else started a thread with a proper > subject

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

On Thu 08 May 2014 at 12:10:02 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 05 May 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > if grep -wqs text /proc/cmdline; then > > log_warning_msg "Not starting Light Display Manager (lightdm); found > > 'text' in kernel commandline." > > [...] > > fi > > Thi

Is it safe not to install intel-microcode (or amd-microcode)?

Hello, all! I want to have a completely Free install of Debian, which means I will only be using software packages from the main repo, and will be excluding contrib and non-free from my sources file. By doing so, I won't be able to install the microcode updates for my computer's CPU. Is this

Re: Can aptitude be used to install non-free and contrib things?

Yes, it can. So can apt and synaptic. These tools rely on the /etc/apt/sources.list file to point them to servers where they can download the software you want. Here's an example of an entry in sources.list: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/deb

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 09:00:46PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 07/05/14 08:32 PM, Stephen Allen wrote: > > > >There was a debate in Toronto this past Friday with the past director of > >NSA/CIA, Glen Greenwald (and 2 other people whose names I just can't > >remember right now) - When Glen me

Re: Confusion

On 05/08/2014 02:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 16:31:03 +0930 josh wrote: Hi, When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of help available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists wher

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

On 05/08/2014 08:31 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Tanstaafl mailto:tansta...@libertytrek.org>> wrote: On 5/5/2014 2:56 PM, Robert Crawford mailto:webgu...@gmail.com>> wrote: You might want look at the complete list at list.debian.org

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On 08/05/2014 07:18, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Allen Sent: 05/08/14 08:37 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? They have too much to do even that - you gotta keep up to date on recent news my friend. That's the problem w

Re: Confusion

On Thu, 08 May 2014 16:31:03 +0930 josh wrote: > Hi, > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the > Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of > help available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists where any > search immediately returns

Re: Confusion

On May 8, 2014, at 11:26 AM, Testosticore wrote: > I hope you get to solve that CD problem soon. > > As said earlier, it may be that the CD ISOs you downloaded were corrupted in > the process of downloading. You might try: https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ to buy a professionally cut, (pro

Re: Re: Confusion

Hey, Josh. As a side note, you might be getting flooded by email from debian-user@lists.debian.org. A solution is to subscribe to debian-user-dig...@lists.debian.org, which sends you messages from the debian-user list in bulk, instead of sending you a message every time someone emails debian-

Re: How do chrooted X clients connect to server?

On 05/ 8/14 06:55 AM, Pavel Krc wrote: Hi all, I've been using chrooted Debian (and other distros) for years, but there's one thing that baffled me many times. While many users seek help trying to make chrooted X programs work (mostly due to missing DISPLAY=... or xauth problems), I cannot fi

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On 08/05/2014 14:59, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Assumed Debian stable does fit to your needs and you install security updates, then you have got the best OS for a modern computer, that is available, regarding to Internet security. My apologies, so

How do chrooted X clients connect to server?

Hi all, I've been using chrooted Debian (and other distros) for years, but there's one thing that baffled me many times. While many users seek help trying to make chrooted X programs work (mostly due to missing DISPLAY=... or xauth problems), I cannot find a reason why this works for me when it

Re: boot in console mode from grub2

On Mon, 05 May 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > if grep -wqs text /proc/cmdline; then > log_warning_msg "Not starting Light Display Manager (lightdm); found > 'text' in kernel commandline." > [...] > fi This is broken. It will misfire on foo.text=. This same issue has caused problems already,

Re: How to get installer to align partitions on 4096 byte boundaries?

On Mon, 05 May 2014, Rick Thomas wrote: > Bottom line: It doesn't align to 1MiB boundaries. It doesn't even align to > 4KiB boundaries. > > I think we can do better than that! AFAIK, we do for i686 and amd64, unless it somehow got broken since wheezy. lvm, md-raid/mdadm, mke2fs and mkfs.xfs wer

Trouble shooting an install from ISO problem - was [Re: Confusion]

josh wrote: Hi, [SNIP] Look at my latest frustration: I have downloaded 'wheezy' and created a CD from the Iso image. When I attempt to boot from the CD the screen image comes up, I respond to a few options, then the system reports unable to read from the CD - which it has, of course, been doin

Re: Impossible make reboot and multi user on Debian 7 OpenBox

​​Hi again, The problem is in the session manager. For example, with lightdm not happens the same. I have replaced slim by lightdm (But I suppose that slim should allows make this ...). R​​egards, Antonio.​

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On Thu, 2014-05-08 at 15:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Assumed Debian stable does fit to > your needs and you install security updates, then you have got the best > OS for a modern computer, that is available, regarding to Internet > security. My apologies, some very smart people prefer FreeBSD.

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

Somebody: "I do not for once believe Debian OS is free of bugs and bad coding." Somebody else: "And?" For good reasons I use Arch Linux and Debian. Both distros are buggy, by some definition. C'mon! For my needs I can't simply install Debian stable. Pro-audio is a freakish need. Assumed Debian sta

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

On Mon, 05 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > I've attached the contents of /proc/cpuinfo below, two copies, one > with hyperthreading disabled and one enabled. As I told you, the *very first thing* you must do is to make sure you're using the latest firmware for your motherboard (*especially* the BI

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:44 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: Joel Rees > > Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe? > > > > But this particular thread is not serving the interests of debian users. > >

Re: Confusion

On 08/05/14 08:01, josh wrote: > Hi, > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the > Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of help > available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists where any search > immediately returns at least a million

Re: Confusion

On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 08:41:59AM +0100, Paul Lewis wrote: > On 08/05/14 08:01:03, josh wrote: > Hi Josh, > > It sounds to me as if the ISO isn't loading the correct CD/DVD driver > during the install. > > Given that you have downloaded three ISO images, I presume using the > network (internet

Can't run (Gnu)Clisp,Mclclim,and clsip-module-clx

HIi: I am running Debian testing with Linux Debian kernel 3.12.1-amd64.I am a newbie as far as lisp is concerned. I have installed the packages but done any further configuration.(require "asdf") does not appear to work even though I put a link from /usr/share/common-lisp/source to .local/sha

Re: Best list for server only traffic?

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:09 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 5/5/2014 2:56 PM, Robert Crawford wrote: > >> You might want look at the complete list at list.debian.org >> > > > > I did... there are, what... 100+ different lists there? > > https://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html > > There is a debia

Re: Is zeitgeist safe?

On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 05:50:47PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 03:44:14PM -0400, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Joel Rees > > > Sent: 05/07/14 09:01 PM > > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > Subject: Re: Is zeitgeist safe

Re: Confusion

On Thu, May 8, 2014 12:01 am, josh wrote: > Hi, > > When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the > Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of help > available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists where any search > immediately returns at leas

Re: Thinkpad Backlight Trouble in X in Testing

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 1:42 AM, Stephen Allen wrote: > Both work here on my X300 running testing. I know after getting systemd > working my suspend started working reliably, however fn+brightness keys > works. I'm on Gnome-Shell if that makes a difference. Quite unclear what went wrong, but I res

Problems using the installation CD [Was: "Re: Confusion"]

josh writes: > Worse, almost every entry in those lists refers to attempting to perform > some complex technical activity, usually with a root terminal, and is > studded with abstruse technical terms. Foreword: Sorry, computers are complex machine, it was so when Linus Thorvalds started workin

Re: Confusion

On 08/05/14 08:01:03, josh wrote: > Hi, > > > Look at my latest frustration: > > > My CD readers are obviously working just fine. > > Is there any way to find the answers to simple, basic problems > without becoming immersed in millions of abstruse technical queries > by people who ar

Confusion

Hi, When one has a problem with any GNU/Linux distribution and goes to the Internet for help, one is always a. assured that there is loads of help available and b. directed to a maze of mailing lists where any search immediately returns at least a million hits. This is certainly the case with Debi