Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/21/2014 10:14 PM, John Hasler wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second#Proposal_to_abolish_leap_seconds This is hardly the first time this has been proposed. I remember it way back in the 60's. There are advantages and disadvantages to it. So far the disadvantages have outwei

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/21/2014 10:08 PM, John Hasler wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: The time needs to be accurate TAI is accurate. UTC is fudged. The Earth is not a clock. BTW GPS time ignores leap seconds. It's what scientists most often use for precise timing. Not all of them. Many use UTC. UTC is read

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second#Proposal_to_abolish_leap_seconds -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.de

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Jerry Stuckle writes: > The time needs to be accurate TAI is accurate. UTC is fudged. The Earth is not a clock. BTW GPS time ignores leap seconds. It's what scientists most often use for precise timing. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 3/21/2014 5:35 PM, John Hasler wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second More TAI seconds have accumulated since 1972 than have UTC seconds because the Earth is slowing down an

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
I chose the posix time for Europe/London and the seconds are in exact step with local time seconds. Martin Ron Leach writes: > On 21/03/2014 20:21, John Hasler wrote: > > > Other way around. TAI does *not* include leap-seconds. It is a > continuous stream of numbered seconds w

Re: GLX version

2014-03-21 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Ric Moore writes: > I ~THOUGHT~ I could get a GLX version upgrade via software. I have > version 1.4 supplied by my nVidia GeDorce GT-520 card. Am I missing > something, short of replacing the card, to have version 2.0? I have > the Mesa packages installed. Thanx, Ric What exactly package are yo

[Solved] Re: LVM preseed install fails on physical server

2014-03-21 Thread Sandeep Raman
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Sandeep Raman wrote: > I'm seeing the same issue per > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740271. I've updated > the bug with my comments. > > ┌──┤ [!!] Partition disks ├───┐ > │

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your > laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer > with you, because it's easier to just walk off with it than to dink > w

Re: cdimage.debian.org how-to? what gives? [solved]

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:38:25 -0600 Paul E Condon wrote: > Over the years since Potato, I have noticed that while each new > release was bigger and better than its predecessor, the web site > became more and more convoluted and difficult to navigate. I'm not a > web designer, as well as not being

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 20:43:37 Ron Leach wrote: > And, like the OP, I don't want to miss the start of radio > programmes because the time isn't correct, aligned, or understood. Never listen to the BBC then. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

modem hangup problems continue

2014-03-21 Thread Mike McClain
I'm running Squeeze on a P3 board and dialup. My modem gets hungup after 2.5 minutes about 30% - 40% of the time I connect. Being idle, in the middle of fetching email or loading a webpage seems to make no difference. Is there any way to log all transactions going to the modem which is on ttyS2? So

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 20:02:38 Ron Leach wrote: > The OP might want to keep in mind > that the time he thinks he has set his recording to start may be 35 > seconds adrift from when the broadcaster might start.  At least, he > might want to check what time he uses, and what time the > broadcaster

Re: images not correctly rendered in iceweasel

2014-03-21 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 06:41:42PM -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > FWIW, I am using iceweasel 27.0.1-1 from experimental, and the > rendering is identical for me in chromium and iceweasel. This seems to > be an artefact in 24 though… > >Thanks for the reply Kumar. That is a

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your > laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer > with you, because it's easier to just walk off with it than to dink > w

Re: images not correctly rendered in iceweasel

2014-03-21 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
> FWIW, I am using iceweasel 27.0.1-1 from experimental, and the > rendering is identical for me in chromium and iceweasel. This seems to > be an artefact in 24 though... > Thanks for the reply Kumar. That is a good data point to have. Could you please post the output of "dpkg -l iceweasel chromiu

Re: cdimage.debian.org how-to? what gives? [solved]

2014-03-21 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140320_165204, Brian wrote: > On Thu 20 Mar 2014 at 16:45:36 +, Tom Furie wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:32:44AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > > pecondon writes: > > > > > > I tried to access cdimages.debian.org on it using FireFox, and could > > > > not. > > > > > There is no

GLX version

2014-03-21 Thread Ric Moore
I ~THOUGHT~ I could get a GLX version upgrade via software. I have version 1.4 supplied by my nVidia GeDorce GT-520 card. Am I missing something, short of replacing the card, to have version 2.0? I have the Mesa packages installed. Thanx, Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "The

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second More TAI seconds have accumulated since 1972 than have UTC seconds because the Earth is slowing down and so to keep UTC in sync with the Earth it

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 20:21, John Hasler wrote: Other way around. TAI does *not* include leap-seconds. It is a continuous stream of numbered seconds with no gaps and no insertions. UTC *does* include leap seconds. It is TAI adjusted to stay within one second of Earth rotation time. Leap seconds acco

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread John Hasler
Ron Leach writes: > Interesting. The readme in Wheezy states that TAI includes 'leap > seconds' (the extra seconds added - every so often, a year or so - to > compensate for variations in Earth's rotation) and implies that the > UTC time basis does *not* include the leap seconds. I wonder if that

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 02:58, Don Armstrong wrote: [,,,] due to the 35 second difference between TAI and UTC. (The latter approximates UT1 (earth revolution about its axis), and the former is absolute time in SI seconds). You can read about it in /usr/share/doc/tzdata/README.Debian. Interesting. The

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Erwan David
Le 21/03/2014 17:18, Brian a écrit : > On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:32:33 +0100, Slavko wrote: > >> There was possible to configure to use UTC or local time as >> system time, but this make sense only for multiboot with system(s), >> which uses local time only (eg. Windows) and now i cannot find this >

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 21 Mar 2014 16:18:22 + Brian napísal: > On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:32:33 +0100, Slavko wrote: > > > There was possible to configure to use UTC or local time as > > system time, but this make sense only for multiboot with system(s), > > which uses local time only (eg. Windows) a

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2014-03-21 00:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > > > >> [snip] I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to > >> use an mini-ITX box there would not be

Re: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 0}

2014-03-21 Thread Mike McGinn
On Friday, March 21, 2014 14:22:18 Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hello, > > I do not remember when I see last term syslogd printing messages on the > terminal in X (konsole in KDE to be precise). But I do remember that these > messages indicated serious issues :0( > > The worst thing is I do not even u

Re: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 0}

2014-03-21 Thread Mike McGinn
On Friday, March 21, 2014 14:22:18 Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Hello, > > I do not remember when I see last term syslogd printing messages on the > terminal in X (konsole in KDE to be precise). But I do remember that these > messages indicated serious issues :0( > > The worst thing is I do not even u

Re: .Xresources not loading on start

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 22:26:40 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > > Re-read what Vincent Zweije wrote, especially his first mail. Then > > re-read the answers in the stackexchange link you gave, concentrating on > > what is said about "specific" and "priority". Now re-read what you wrote: > > Yes, Vin

rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 0}

2014-03-21 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Hello, I do not remember when I see last term syslogd printing messages on the terminal in X (konsole in KDE to be precise). But I do remember that these messages indicated serious issues :0( The worst thing is I do not even understand what the system wanted to tell me. >From the syslog, I can

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:37:57 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:06:03 + > Robin wrote: > > > I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your > > machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and > > change the root

OT: Toshiba laptop suitability

2014-03-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Mike McGinn wrote: > When the hinges went on my Toshiba I was able to attach a small piece of > metal > to the back to hold the screen up. Got another two years out of it. > The hinges seem to be a consistent weak point on these machines. My boyfriend had a Satel

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 14:25:14 +0100 "Valerio Vanni" wrote: > "Brian" ha scritto nel messaggio > news:21032014113647.c62190855...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk > > > For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx & > > exit' prevent the termination of an X session even if CTRL+ALT

Lightdm doesn't start after using the lightdm-webkit-greeter

2014-03-21 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Hi list, I am using lightdm. And I compiled the lightdm-webkit-greeter from source. (http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/lightdm-webkit-greeter) Here are my /etc/lightdmlightdm.conf settings: [LightDM] [SeatDefaults] xserver-allow-tcp=false greeter-session=lightdm-webkit-greeter greeter-hide-users=t

Problem building h263/4 for asterisk from source

2014-03-21 Thread David Woodfall
Built asterisk 11.8.1 on a Debian VPS. Testing using ekiga. If h261 is checked in ekiga's video format list I have video, and mouse over the video window shows it to be using h261. But then I get the following lines a dozen or more times in the CLI: [Mar 21 16:25:32] WARNING[31818][C-0010]:

Re: Delay between architectures for new package version?

2014-03-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-03-21 14:56 +0100, The Wanderer wrote: > A new package version that reportedly contains a fix I need has just hit > unstable - as in, literally less than four hours ago. (I ordinarily > track testing, but I occasionally cherry-pick something from unstable > for specific purposes.) > > Howe

Re: .Xresources not loading on start

2014-03-21 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> Re-read what Vincent Zweije wrote, especially his first mail. Then > re-read the answers in the stackexchange link you gave, concentrating on > what is said about "specific" and "priority". Now re-read what you wrote: Yes, Vincent said that the default .Xresources contain some settings with a hi

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com writes: > I think it depends on the situation. If you're at the library with your > laptop and need to go to the bathroom, it's best to take the computer > with you, because it's easier to just walk off with it than to dink > with the command prompt. Easier a

Re: Debian on a Dell Latitude E7440

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 07:37:39 -0400 ken wrote: > I'm where you are, currently using a decades-old Dell Latitude with a > couple cracks in it and a non-working screen. It's plugged into an > old CRT monitor. Although, like yours, the battery lasts maybe > fifteen minutes, it's still good for wh

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 11:06:03 + Robin wrote: > I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your > machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and > change the root password? Unless you have a BIOS password or encrypted root partition (or encrypted partiti

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 09:24:21 + Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 02:19:46PM +, Brian wrote: > >Ctrl+Alt+F1...F12 > > For systems with virtual terminal support, these keystroke > > combinations are used to switch to virtual terminals 1 > > throug

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:32:33 +0100, Slavko wrote: > There was possible to configure to use UTC or local time as > system time, but this make sense only for multiboot with system(s), > which uses local time only (eg. Windows) and now i cannot find this > setting, because it was taken away from /e

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Vincent Lefevre writes: > The fact that it is multi-user doesn't mean that it will necessarily > be used by several desktop users. You can remove spawning the getty on tty you don't want to use. I don't know how to do this with systemd... With init you had some nice and well commented entries i

Re: Need a printer driver that's in Jessie, but must run Wheezy.

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:05:02 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 21.03.2014 01:48, Rick Thomas a écrit : > >Hi! > > > >I've got a MacPro G5 that refuses to run Jessie (crashes on > >shutdowns, and sometimes crashes randomly without explicit shutdown). > >So I have to use Wheezy on i

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-03-21 11:41:29 +, Brian wrote: > For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx & exit' > prevent the termination of an X session even if CTRL+ALT+FN etc gets > console access? Doing the exit immediately can have some side effects in some configurations. For instance, my

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-03-21 10:34:03 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > > > > > You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is > > > locked. > > > > Seriously? I'd find

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 14:25:14 +0100, Valerio Vanni wrote: > "Brian" ha scritto nel messaggio > news:21032014113647.c62190855...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk > > > For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx & exit' > > prevent the termination of an X session even if CTRL+ALT

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 11:06:03 Robin wrote: > If someone has physical access to your > machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and > change the root password? The default on Debian since I have been using it is that the root password is required for access via single user

Re: How to use Orca speech output in Libreoffice?

2014-03-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting "W. Martin Borgert" : Also, I was under the impression that I don't need to set them anyway, when running Gnome (gnome-shell). Interestingly, when trying on another machine (wheezy with Xfce4 instead of Gnome3) with the variables set, libreoffice talks to me. So it must be a configurati

Re: How to use Orca speech output in Libreoffice?

2014-03-21 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Scott Ferguson : https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Accessibility#Orca ? Yes, I know this page, but setting the variables mentioned there doesn't change anything. Also, I was under the impression that I don't need to set them anyway, when running Gnome (gnome-shell). Thanks anyway!

Delay between architectures for new package version?

2014-03-21 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 A new package version that reportedly contains a fix I need has just hit unstable - as in, literally less than four hours ago. (I ordinarily track testing, but I occasionally cherry-pick something from unstable for specific purposes.) However, I hav

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
On a properly-working unix system, the hardware clock is set to UTC. In theory, every unix system in the world has a hardware clock that reads the same value at the same time. The localtime file is a set of rules that adjusts your UTC clock value to whatever local wall clock time should be.

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > > > Le 21.03.2014 13:54, Gian Uberto Lauri a écrit : > > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > > > Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout? > > > > H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc . Me _idiot_! (despite the triple expresso shot). I sh

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Fri, 21 Mar 2014 10:57:08 + Ron Leach napísal: > On 21/03/2014 09:38, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > It is standard "good practice" to keep system time ("hardware > > clock") at UTC, and desktop time can be local time if you wish. > > > > Hadn't realised any of this, so thank you. If

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Valerio Vanni
"Brian" ha scritto nel messaggio news:21032014113647.c62190855...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk > For the situation when X is started with startx would 'startx & exit' > prevent the termination of an X session even if CTRL+ALT+FN etc gets > console access? I've always used "startx & exit", and

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Robin
On 21 March 2014 11:18, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:06:03AM +, Robin wrote: >> I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your >> machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and >> change the root password? > > Maybe, maybe not. Conso

Re: Automatic partition creation, root partition too small

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 02:09:11PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > (g)parted is your friend. I'd always suggest using LVM too (there's an auto-partition method that uses LVM, as well as one that uses encryption - which I'd recommend in one form or another for end-user machines. Altho

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 03/21/2014 12:43 AM, Ken Heard wrote: > On 2014-03-21 00:30, Patrick Bartek wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Ken Heard wrote: > >>> [snip] I never did get LVM going on top of RAID1. Since I had to >>> use an mini-ITX box there would not be roo

Re: Automatic partition creation, root partition too small

2014-03-21 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.03.2014 19:40, Paul Johnson a écrit : On Mar 19, 2014 7:28 AM, "André" wrote: When using the automatic partition scheme, Debian creates a root partition of about 320Mb. > > It maybe enough to start, but this is too small after a while, for many reasons: Which leaves me wondering ho

Re: Need a printer driver that's in Jessie, but must run Wheezy.

2014-03-21 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.03.2014 01:48, Rick Thomas a écrit : Hi! I've got a MacPro G5 that refuses to run Jessie (crashes on shutdowns, and sometimes crashes randomly without explicit shutdown). So I have to use Wheezy on it. I have a snazzy new HP OfficeJet 4630 "all-in-one" printer. Jessie has a cups driver

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread berenger . morel
Le 21.03.2014 13:54, Gian Uberto Lauri a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout? H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc . Would you forgive me if I don't do the test right now and continue to do the work I am paid for :) ? Currently, yo

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > Can't ~/.xinitrc force startx to logout? H, maybe if you start x with . xinitrc . Would you forgive me if I don't do the test right now and continue to do the work I am paid for :) ? -- /\ ___Ubuntu: anci

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.03.2014 02:44, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : Yeah, when making a machine for a less technical or less command-prompt comfortable person, I like to have it boot into GUI via the desktop manager. But when setting it up for myself or for people technically sharp enough to log in and then type "

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread berenger . morel
Le 19.03.2014 15:03, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 19 March 2014 11:25:44 Stephen Powell wrote: On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 14:31:46 -0400 (EDT), Steve Litt wrote: > ... > I also unchecked the Debian Desktop selection. > ... > Then I did the following: > > apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies > apt

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 11:18:19 +, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:06:03AM +, Robin wrote: > > I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your > > machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and > > change the root password? > > Maybe

Re: Debian on a Dell Latitude E7440

2014-03-21 Thread ken
On 03/20/2014 06:48 PM Craig L. wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 04:03:36PM -0400, Mike McGinn wrote: On Thursday, March 20, 2014 15:28:32 Craig L. wrote: Hello list, Sadly, my 11 year-old Toshiba laptop has become physically unusable*, and I will be receiving a new laptop at work. We are looki

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:06:03AM +, Robin wrote: > I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your > machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and > change the root password? Maybe, maybe not. Console access doesn't have to mean complete access. The s

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Robin
I may have missed something. If someone has physical access to your machine can't they just power off and go into single user mode and change the root password? -- rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: Need a printer driver that's in Jessie, but must run Wheezy.

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 12:05:34 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > You could also just try downloading the Jessie package and:- > # dpkg -i $JessiePackage An alternative (to avoid dependency problems) might be to download the printer-driver-hpijs package, extract /usr/share/cups/drv/hpijs.drv and use

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 09:38, Lisi Reisz wrote: It is standard "good practice" to keep system time ("hardware clock") at UTC, and desktop time can be local time if you wish. Hadn't realised any of this, so thank you. If 'system time' and 'desktop time' differ - such as is suggested - what 'timestamp

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 10:24:54 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:52:03AM +, Brian wrote: > > In an xterm (with or without using DontVTSwitch): > > > >brian@localhost:~$ chvt 4 > >Couldn't gat a file descriptor referring to the console > > > > Doubt no longer

Re: lighttpd server configs

2014-03-21 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 21/03/14 20:27, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 08:28:45AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> That'll be why apache is not rewriting the path to mediawiki > > OP is using lighttpd, not apache. > > Thanks for the edit. Different dog, same. Sorry about any confusion that caused.

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:46:38AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > > > You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is > > locked. > > Seriously? I'd find that to be a severe bug in the said locking > application. It

Re: lighttpd server configs

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:30:18AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 04:12:03PM -0500, John Foster wrote: > > However, when I try to use http://localhost. or http://127.0.0.1 or > > the actual IP address of the computer on my network, it fails. This > > pops up in the url ba

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 09:52:03AM +, Brian wrote: > In an xterm (with or without using DontVTSwitch): > >brian@localhost:~$ chvt 4 >Couldn't gat a file descriptor referring to the console > > Doubt no longer. :) Try via sudo. (risk reduced to: X session left open, terminal left open

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Brian
On Fri 21 Mar 2014 at 09:24:21 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 02:19:46PM +, Brian wrote: > >Ctrl+Alt+F1...F12 > > For systems with virtual terminal support, these keystroke > > combinations are used to switch to virtual terminals 1 > > thro

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 21 mar 14, 09:52:09, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > > You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is > locked. Seriously? I'd find that to be a severe bug in the said locking application. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic disc

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 21 mar 14, 08:10:44, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 21 March 2014 05:06:52 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > However, if you > > are running amd64 (64 bit) instead of i386 (32 bit) those kernels > > will not be available for you to install via apt-get. > > I get them via aptitude on Wheezy. I init

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 09:05:37 Ron Leach wrote: > >> I want to record some radio programs and DST and BST don't start > >> and stop at the same times. > > > > The way you do this is you start whatever you're using to record > > the programs with TZ="Europe/London" instead of changing > > /etc/loc

Re: lighttpd server configs

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 04:12:03PM -0500, John Foster wrote: > However, when I try to use http://localhost. or http://127.0.0.1 or > the actual IP address of the computer on my network, it fails. This > pops up in the url bar of the browser: > > http://www.physicswiki.net//index.php?title=Main_Pa

Re: lighttpd server configs

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 08:28:45AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > That'll be why apache is not rewriting the path to mediawiki OP is using lighttpd, not apache. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.d

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 02:19:46PM +, Brian wrote: >Ctrl+Alt+F1...F12 > For systems with virtual terminal support, these keystroke > combinations are used to switch to virtual terminals 1 > through 12, respectively. This can be disabled with the > DontVTSwitc

Re: Time Zone Questions

2014-03-21 Thread Ron Leach
On 21/03/2014 02:58, Don Armstrong wrote, very interestingly: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014, Martin G. McCormick wrote: That's when I discovered that there are 3 Londons and 3 Chicagos. That's due to the 35 second difference between TAI and UTC. (The latter approximates UT1 (earth revolution about its

Re: Security Implications of running startx from command line - was Re: Startx: was Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Andrei POPESCU writes: > 3. any user, with or without root access, who doesn't lock his > workstation as needed[1] deserves his fate. And does not uses startx; exit You can access the console X was started from even when the machine is locked. -- /\ ___

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 05:06:52 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > However, if you > are running amd64 (64 bit) instead of i386 (32 bit) those kernels > will not be available for you to install via apt-get. I get them via aptitude on Wheezy. I initially installed the backported kernel (new hardware), and

Re: Great Debian experience

2014-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 21 March 2014 04:29:25 Ken Heard wrote: > I discovered just a few minutes ago (c. 11:00 2014-03-21 Friday > where I am) that the latest kernel in wheezy-backports is > 3.13.0.bpo1-amd64 Thanks for the heads up Ken. Have just run full-upgrade. Though I will have ot resatrt to change ke

Re: Need a printer driver that's in Jessie, but must run Wheezy.

2014-03-21 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:48:10 -0700 Rick Thomas wrote: > Hi! > > I've got a MacPro G5 that refuses to run Jessie (crashes on > shutdowns, and sometimes crashes randomly without explicit > shutdown). So I have to use Wheezy on it. > > I have a snazzy new HP OfficeJet 4630 "all-in-one" printer.