Re: whitel...@lists.debian.org

2014-03-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 3/5/2014 1:08 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Mails from > ralf.mardorf-at-alice-dsl.net seldom come through the list. I show 623 from that address since 10/13. What you meant to say is "on occasion my mails do not post to the list". > For those > mails that don't come through, I never got a postm

[solved] Re: whitel...@lists.debian.org

2014-03-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PPS: I guess I have to talk to my ISP, there seem to be issues with Cc'ing to myself too [1] and with sending mails to my Alice account [2], however the missing mails are not in the archive. Most likely the ISP is the culprit. Pardon, I only will do this last test and then stop the noise. [1] Fr

whitel...@lists.debian.org

2014-03-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi, how does https://lists.debian.org/whitelist/ work? To Debian user I'm subscribed with my ralf.mardorf-at-alice-dsl.net account, but if I want to send mails to the list, I better use some of my accounts I'm not subscribed to the list. Mails from ralf.mardorf-at-alice-dsl.net seldom come throug

Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 11:34, Rob Owens wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote: >>> On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect. Systemd's real goa

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 07:32:57PM +0200, Danny wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP > or > MAC? > > Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? Ah. Let's assume this is a residential evironment. And that you want t

Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect. > >> > >> Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for exam

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/5/14, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: > By the way, here's my email receiving system: > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/images/dovecot_setup.png > If you want to read the document that came from, it's here: > http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201202/201202.htm Thank yo

Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 10:36, Rob Owens wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: >> Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect. >> >> Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example, you >> don't mount a file system until the device is ready - at the >

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 04 mar 14, 11:58:42, Pertti Kosunen wrote: > On 4.3.2014 11:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so difficult to crasp?) > > When is this change coming to unstable? The sysvinit package (Essential: yes) has been transformed into a metapackag

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 04 mar 14, 01:31:45, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: [snip procmail recipe] maildrop: if (/^From:.*(FIRSTEMAILADDRESS|SECONDEMAILADDRESS)/) to /dev/null (untested) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDe

Re: mounting nfs on boot -- Was: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:52:19PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > Boot speed isn't systemd's goal. It's just a side-effect. > > Systemd's real goals are being event driven (so, for example, you don't > mount a file system until the device is ready - at the moment, debian > does this with a two-pass

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 09:46, John Hasler wrote: > Scott Ferguson writes: >> Sorry I don't have access to a Sid box at the moment - perhaps someone >> who has, and for whom ping is working could post the output of "getcap >> `which ping`"?? > > /bin/ping = cap_net_raw+p > Thanks John (it was a long shot gu

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Brian
On Wed 05 Mar 2014 at 09:29:18 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > > On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > >> Setting up iputils-ping (3:20121221-5) ... > >> Setcap worked! *Ping(6) is not suid!* > > The above line, emphasis mine, is what prompted second thoughts. > Perhaps one of the changes betwee

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 04 March 2014 08:29:52 Bret Busby wrote: > Can you show that the Samsung Unified Printer Driver, with all of > its functionality, and, its encapsulated device drivers, that > worked on Debian Linux 5, works on Debian Linux 6? Yes, and on 7. I have used it with great success. But you a

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 04 March 2014 09:09:56 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > So you are insisting on using that particular piece of software. Which works well on Wheezy. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debi

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd FUD

2014-03-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 04 March 2014 08:13:39 Bret Busby wrote: > Perhaps, you could clarify your gratuitously hostile response? Gratuitously?? http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gratuitously Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd FUD

2014-03-04 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 04 mar 14, 16:13:39, Bret Busby wrote: > > Instead of your launching into gratuitous personal attacks, perhaps > you could post any response to my query that I posted on the Debian > Printing mailing list on 01 October 2013? > > I have just (yet again) searched through the folder for that

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight

2014-03-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 04 March 2014 06:55:48 Bret Busby wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Bret Busby wrote: > > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 19:04:20 > > From: Bret Busby > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight > > > > On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> Date: Mon,

Preseeding running kernel removal option

2014-03-04 Thread Thomas Luzat
Hello, I am preseeding a wheezy machine that is being upgraded to unstable during installation. Before shutting down linux-image-3.13.0-amd64 gets installed and I want to remove linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64. apt-get purge (or dpkg -P) want me to confirm the removal of the running kernel. How do I av

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread John Hasler
Scott Ferguson writes: > Sorry I don't have access to a Sid box at the moment - perhaps someone > who has, and for whom ping is working could post the output of "getcap > `which ping`"?? /bin/ping = cap_net_raw+p -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 05/03/14 01:37, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: > On 3/3/2014 7:27 PM, Doug wrote: >> >> /snip/ >> >> Two comments: >> 1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac >> OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is. > > I'd have to give the Universal crown to NetBSD: > http://www

Read-only rootfs on systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Amit
Hello, I always run my debian systems with a separate /, /home, and /var. I added read-only 'ro' mount to fstab for the root / partition. So far it has been working great. However, setting up a fresh install of systemd, the readonly does not have any effect. The rootfs is still mounted as rw. All

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
Second thoughts On 04/03/14 20:17, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal >> user. Like here: >> $ ping example.com >> ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted >> >> >> Now I

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Chris Davies
Danny wrote: > Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a > certain IP or MAC? > Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? - What should happen when that device requests an IP address outside those times? - If it's to be refused, can another device request t

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread William Ivanski
In our company we use a single dhcpd file, and the access control per time of day is done with iptables and squid. William Ivanski 2014-03-04 17:06 GMT-03:00 Mark Carroll : > Danny writes: > > > Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a > certain IP or > > MAC? > > > >

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Mark Carroll
Danny writes: > Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP > or > MAC? > > Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? I guess you could probably have a couple of different dhcpd configuration files and set a cron job on that server to run a scrip

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 20:03:44 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: Perhaps you could use PAM. Bad idea. Violation of cpu shell limit will kill offending process: $ bash $ ulimit -t 1 $ while true; do true ;done Killed Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wi

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS: Perhaps you could use PAM. [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /mnt/debi386/etc/security/limits.conf # /etc/security/limits.conf # #Each line describes a limit for a user in the form: # # # #Where: # can be: #- an user name #- a group name, with @group syntax #-

Re: Install debian on EFI hw

2014-03-04 Thread Erwan David
Le 04/03/2014 14:54, ha a écrit : > Last few weekends I've tried to install debian 7.2 from live DVD (but > booting from USB) on EFI hardware with GPT. I disabled EFI, crated a > small partition at the begging of the disk, and run the usual > installation process. However, at the end of installatio

Re: DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Purgert
On 04/03/2014 12:32, Danny wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP > or > MAC? > > Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? > > Just wondering > > Thank You > > Danny > > Need some more information about what you're

Re: Install debian on EFI hw

2014-03-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:54:05PM +0100, ha wrote: > Last few weekends I've tried to install debian 7.2 from live DVD > (but booting from USB) on EFI hardware with GPT. I disabled EFI, > crated a small partition at the begging of the disk, and run the > usual installation process. However, at the

Re: clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-04 Thread Doug
On 03/04/2014 05:12 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box into the new one and doing any minor configuration c

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier OT in re systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140304_160239, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2014-03-04 15:45 GMT+01:00 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com < > litt...@gmail.com>: > > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:05:41 +0100 > > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > > > > > > Lately I would add > > > > > > :0B > > > * .*(systemd) > > > $GARBAGE > > > > > >

DHCP quickie

2014-03-04 Thread Danny
Hi Guys, Is it possible to only give leases at a certain time of day for a certain IP or MAC? Say from 06:00 till 10:00 and then from 18:00 till 22:00? Just wondering Thank You Danny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 03/04/2014 10:00 AM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote: The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so difficult to > crasp?) Yes, it *was* hard for me to grasp. Reading all the email, I didn't understand that I'd still have a

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread David Guntner
Bret Busby grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: >> [...] >> I'll probably have to add more to that as he comes on line with a slew >> of other identities, but .procmailrc is a pretty easy filtering ^ >> mechanism. > > Is that

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 09:37:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:31:08 -0500 > Dan Ritter wrote: > > I would strongly consider a hybrid of the existing sysVinit and > > daemontools or runit -- runit being a reimplementation of daemontools > > that avoided the licensing issue and

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Tue, 04 Mar 2014 10:16:35 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > At least for Jessie as far as I understand all other inits are still > planned to be packaged. So either stick with sysv + insserv or choose > another one. > > The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so difficult to > cr

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-03-04 15:45 GMT+01:00 Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com < litt...@gmail.com>: > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:05:41 +0100 > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > > > > Lately I would add > > > > :0B > > * .*(systemd) > > $GARBAGE > > > > :0 > > * ^Subject.*(systemd) > > $GARBAGE > > I can't do that, because I

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 22:31:08 -0500 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions > > there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also > > heard from our LUG

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 16:38:17 +0800 (WST) Bret Busby wrote: > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: > > > GARBAGE=/dev/null > > > > ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES > > :0: > > * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com > > $GARBAGE > > > > :0: > > * ^From.*arnoldb...@cosmicemail.c

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014 09:05:41 +0100 Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > Lately I would add > > :0B > * .*(systemd) > $GARBAGE > > :0 > * ^Subject.*(systemd) > $GARBAGE I can't do that, because I really need to know about that stuff. When Jessie becomes stable, I'm going to try to work with systemd. But

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 23:46:39 -0800 David Guntner wrote: > Steve Litt grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > GARBAGE=/dev/null > > > > ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES > > :0: > > * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com > > $GARBAGE > > > > :0: > > * ^From.*arnoldb...@cosmicemail.co

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems - SysV is FINE.

2014-03-04 Thread Dave Woyciesjes
On 3/3/2014 7:27 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ Two comments: 1. Debian is *not* the universal operating system. After Windows and Mac OsX, and maybe Unix, probably Ubuntu is. I'd have to give the Universal crown to NetBSD: http://www.netbsd.org/ports/#ports-by-cpu Maybe one of the other *BSD

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:06:59AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions > > there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard > > from ou

Install debian on EFI hw

2014-03-04 Thread ha
Last few weekends I've tried to install debian 7.2 from live DVD (but booting from USB) on EFI hardware with GPT. I disabled EFI, crated a small partition at the begging of the disk, and run the usual installation process. However, at the end of installation I always receive the message like: "

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
From: ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net To: debian-user at lists.debian.org Subject: Re: trickle for cpu ? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2014 13:54:25 +0100 On Tue, 2014-03-04 at 16:32 +0400, Reco wrote: > cgroups Zenaan does use jackd, or at least once tested jackd. using Cgroups might be a bad idea, at least th

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd fight

2014-03-04 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014 14:33:44 -0800 "Arnold Bird" wrote: > Is it not in the unfree repository? > Alot of stuff was moved there. AFAIK, it's not in the repos at all, just distributed by Brother. > --- cele...@gmail.com wrote: > > From: Celejar > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Fi

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions > there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard > from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools > wou

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Brian
On Tue 04 Mar 2014 at 09:16:15 +0100, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > # ls -la /bin/ping > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 46672 01-02-14 22:18:43 /bin/ping The file size indicates this is /bin/ping6 (amd64 platform) > Now I reinstalled iputils-ping: > > # ls -la /bin/ping > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 44080 01-02-14

Re: trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:16:34PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I want to be able to say "use maximum 10% of CPU". cgroups are definitely THE tool for doing this. The best starting point IMO would be installing cgroup-bin and reading its' documentation. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

trickle for cpu ?

2014-03-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I know of nice, but that just changes process priority, but still allows a process to use up to 100% of cpu. trickle is a bandwidth shaper for network usage and is easy to use and works well. Is there an equivalent for CPU, so that I can "shape" the "cpu bandwidth" of an application? I want to b

Re: Debian init choices

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 06:44:33PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I was just wondering something. How much effort would it take for me, > personally, just me, to make my Debian Stable start all its processes > with DJB's Daemontools. I know Daemontools, I understand it, I know how > to wor

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Dan Ritter
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 08:50:09PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions > there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard > from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools > wou

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Will Mengarini
* David Guntner [14-03/03=Mo 23:46 -0800]: > Unless you have a reason to want one test per address, > you could simply put them all in a single test. > >> :0: >> * >> ^From.*(naturalli...@dcemail.com|arnoldb...@cosmicemail.com|usspookslovesys...@muchomail.com|fredw...@mail.ru) >> $GARBAGE > > Col

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 01:31:45AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: > > == > GARBAGE=/dev/null > > ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES > :0: > * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Pertti Kosunen
On 4.3.2014 11:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote: The decision was just about *the default*. (Is this so difficult to crasp?) When is this change coming to unstable? Will it need any special actions when upgrading? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: clean upgrade 32 -> 64?

2014-03-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 05:08:37PM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > I'm about to replace one of my old 32-bit x86 Debian boxes with a > 64-bit; I'll actually just be moving the disk drives out of the old box > into the new one and doing any minor configuration changes that'll be > neede (which will be

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Tom Furie
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 04:29:52PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > The device had available, a software suite, named the Samsung > Unified Print Driver. > > That worked with Debian Linux 5. > > It apparently does not work with Debian Linux 6. > > Something changed from Debian Linux 5, to Debian Linu

Re: Replacing systemd

2014-03-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 3. März 2014, 20:50:09 schrieb Steve Litt: > Hi everyone, > > I just checked with my local Linux group (GoLUG), and the opinions > there are that systemd is not a particularly good thing. I also heard > from our LUG's most vociferous proponent of Daemontools that Daemontools > wouldn't

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/4/14, Bret Busby wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: >>> As a single example, I have a multifunction printer, of which, the >>> multifunctionality worked with Debian 5. Now, it is only a laser >>> printer, running with Debian 6 - to use it to scan, I have to scan >>> to a USB d

Re: Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/03/14 19:16, Tim Ruehsen wrote: > Hi, > > every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal > user. Like here: > $ ping example.com > ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted > > I didn't care so far and just reinstalled iputils-ping and everything worked >

Re: Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-03-04 9:38 GMT+01:00 Bret Busby : > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: >> >> == >> GARBAGE=/dev/null >> >> ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES >> :0: >

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd troll

2014-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: As a single example, I have a multifunction printer, of which, the multifunctionality worked with Debian 5. Now, it is only a laser printer, running with Debian 6 - to use it to scan, I have to scan to a USB drive, and then copy the files to the compu

Email filtering - was Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: == GARBAGE=/dev/null ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSES :0: * ^From.*naturalli...@dcemail.com $GARBAGE :0: * ^From.*arnoldb...

Re: Firmware stuff - was systemd FUD

2014-03-04 Thread Bret Busby
On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 04/03/14 17:11, Bret Busby wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 03 mar 14, 18:57:09, Bret Busby wrote: I think that it is unfortunate that we are apparently expected to throw out all of our hardware (including printers and ot

Who changes /bin/ping on my system ?

2014-03-04 Thread Tim Ruehsen
Hi, every now and than ping loses it's capabilities to be executed by a normal user. Like here: $ ping example.com ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted I didn't care so far and just reinstalled iputils-ping and everything worked again. I did this three or four times since ~ November

Re: Could russians maintain a traditional linux debian? Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely

2014-03-04 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:00:53PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Another 'persona' Mr Naturist Linux? Mail headers from <20140303074232.529c2...@m0005296.ppops.net> show us that: Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35])

Re: Here's how to make yourself happier

2014-03-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014-03-04 8:46 GMT+01:00 David Guntner : > Steve Litt grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Here's how I just made my life happier and less stressful: > > > > == > > GARBAGE=/dev/null > > > > ### DEBIAN LIST UBERSCREAMER ARNOLD BIRD'S 4 ADDRESSE