On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 09:34 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> Irony and sarcasm are hard to use well in your mother tongue. They are
> even harder to use in a non-native tongue.
I try to be more careful. On another list I already marked text with
[satire] foo [/satire].
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On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 09:05 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> In the meantime, synaptic and others essentially go through su or sudo
> and pop up a dialog asking for your root or admin password.
Resp. those commands are gksu, gksudo, kdesu.
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On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 19:41 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> But the correspondence between these Linux device names and the
> hardware device numbers varies widely from boot to boot. I can assure
> you of that from personal experience.
So my question, if somebody experienced it already is answered
On Sat, 2013-09-28 at 08:25 +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> But the upshot is that capacitors are exposed to higher
> voltages and/or effective power than they can handle, and get burned,
> and it is a manufacturing problem, and sometimes an engineering
> problem.
And sometimes vendors knowingly use und
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 14:41 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
>
>
From: Joel Rees
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 09:05:33 +0900
> ... make all the users that write to it [a folder] members of the group.
If you don't object to the question, would those users tend to be
people or projects or tasks?
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 08:11:10PM +0200, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Friends,
>
> For some reason, when I try to use pcmanfm as my user, I can not.
> I can start it as other users on the system, or with gksu or sudo,
> but not for my user.
>
Have you tried deleting .config/pcmanfm instead of replacin
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> [...]
> I was ironic.
>
> Why is there always that much noise to the list, when people unintended
> offend a mailing list rule?
> [...]
Irony and sarcasm are hard to use well in your mother tongue. They are
even harder to use in a non-native
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 18:03 -0400, Rhiamom wrote:
>> I am very glad the list is not being spammed. Now to figure out why I am
>> getting half a dozen incomplete emails and three or so complete emails of
>> each one I send to the list. Only m
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have a machine set aside for learning by experimentation.
> It will have at least Squeeze *and* Wheezy installed.
> I have created a multi-GB partition that I wish accessible to both.
> I have done install from
> [Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 "S
(Trying hard to resist, ...)
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:28 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>
>> I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD
>> variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it.
>
> And FreeBSD'll switch to la
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:41:54 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote:
>
> I couldn't care less how many disks you have.
>
> Defaulting to the use of UUIDs isn't some wacky whim but a
> well-reasoned technical decision, unless you want to claim to know
> more than the developers putting together distributions.
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
>
> Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails
> [...]
What I want to know is why Intel CPUs still need the +12V.
Have you considered copying these kinds of posts t
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/27/2013 09:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> /snip/
>
>> However, undersized voltage for capacitors for switching power supply is
>> an often used fraud against consumers and switching power supplies
>> pollute the mains. Exotic resistors sometimes m
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM, wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:27:19 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> libsystemd-login0 is the replacement of consolekit (which has been
>> deprecated) and is used for tracking sessions. Using it doesn't mean
>> that you're using systemd as PID 1. Even Ubuntu's using
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Regid Ichira wrote:
> On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(an
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 23:00:14 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote:
>
> "A lot more software"?! Installing initramfs-tools will just pull in
> klibc-utils, libklibc, and busybox!
Also, one can limit the size of the initial RAM file system itself by using
modules=dep
in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/driver
On Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:57:43 -0400 (EDT), Beco wrote:
>
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
>
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like to
> have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else
> relevant)?
>
> Thanks!
On 13Sep27:2054+0530, Balamurugan wrote:
> On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote:
> >Your fact is not. I installed Debian Sid on a G500 a few
> >months ago and it dual-boots with Win8. The trick is to
> >use the smaller alternative power button to the right of
> >the large power button, wh
The problem was solved by upgrading the version of iceweasel from the
backports repository.
Now I am gonna stick to iceweasel! [Except that I don't like the icon)
Cheers!
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Bob Proulx writes:
[...]
> Sorry but I have no more ideas. I can only say that the behavior you
> are seeing isn't normal. I don't see it. I believe other people are
> not seeing it. Whatever the problem is it is something specific to
> your system. The challenge is to find it.
>
> Bob
Thi
On Fri, Fri, 27 Sep 2013 13:34:56 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> >>
> >> Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
> >> (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
> >> as
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 14:27:19 -0400
Tom H wrote:
> libsystemd-login0 is the replacement of consolekit (which has been
> deprecated) and is used for tracking sessions. Using it doesn't mean
> that you're using systemd as PID 1. Even Ubuntu's using it.
Oh no. What have you done :)
You've mentioned
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>
> I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD
> variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it.
And FreeBSD'll switch to launchd and Vadim'll switch to Windows 9. :)
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Main Backup wrote:
>
> I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future.
>
> 1. Will systemd default init system in future?
> 2. Why I just can't purge systemd-*** in my system now? I don't want it.
> I don't need it. I hate it by my all heart.
> If
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
(and
Hi.
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:46:02 +0400
"Main Backup" wrote:
> I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future.
>
> 1. Will systemd default init system in future?
Why do you ask this question in the debian-user maillist?
debian-devel or debian-testing seem to be more appropriate
I'm not a Debian developer, but my main distro Arch Linux switched to
systemd a long time ago. Regarding to the flame wars caused by the
transition, people were banned from the Arch general mailing list and
the list nowadays is moderated.
The issue with packages you experiences has to do with deci
I have a machine set aside for learning by experimentation.
It will have at least Squeeze *and* Wheezy installed.
I have created a multi-GB partition that I wish accessible to both.
I have done install from
[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 "Squeeze" - Official i386 DVD Binary-1
20120512-13:45]
I success
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> >>
> >> Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
> >> (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
> >> as /d
Friends,
For some reason, when I try to use pcmanfm as my user, I can not.
I can start it as other users on the system, or with gksu or sudo,
but not for my user.
Or, really, what happens is, it seems to start (can find processes and kill
them),
but no window appears. It seems to hang.
I tried
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:38 AM, David L. Craig wrote:
> On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan
>> wrote:
>>> On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Catherine Gramze wrote:
>
> I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of r
I'll guess that you want one of the BSD variants or the Debian kFreeBSD
variant as systemd is Linux only as I understand it.
- Nate
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On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>
>> Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
>> (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
>> as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned in a predictable
>>
On 09/27/2013 09:21 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
/snip/
> However, undersized voltage for capacitors for switching power supply is
> an often used fraud against consumers and switching power supplies
> pollute the mains. Exotic resistors sometimes make them a PITA when you
> want to repair one and you
Hello everyone!
I just want to ask two simple questions about debian future.
1. Will systemd default init system in future?
2. Why I just can't purge systemd-*** in my system now? I don't want it.
I don't need it. I hate it by my all heart.
If I try to remove it, dbus depends on it as well.
I added an SSD as follows:
1) added SSD (on SATA 1),
2) updated /etc/uswsusp.conf,
3) copied /usr and /opt to SSD partitions,
4) modified /etc/fstab to mount /usr & /opt partitions,
5) ran update-grub2.
And resume fails after hibernate. It used to work. If I unplug the S
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:58:21AM +0200, Marko Randjelovic wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:02:40 -0700
> Paul Scott wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Jessie/sid, Mutt from Gnome-terminal:
> >
> > Whenever I try to view an HTML portion of a message in
> > Mutt or click on a link (a relatively new featu
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 11:36 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
> Perhaps I ought to look for an upgrade!
;) Since 7.0 is just a few days old and today there's 7.0.2 available,
there seems to be a reason for the update.
> The iPad isn't really designed for ad hoc networks
Thank you, so the blame mig
On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan wrote:
On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Catherine Gramze wrote:
I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running
Debian. I have had a bad ex
On Sep 27, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I upgrade from 7 to 7.0.2, so I was already on iOS 7, however, I only
> can use the iPad off-line (no mailing), because the ad-hoc connections
> by Linux are unstable, they might hold for 3 seconds. I don't know if
> it's an issue caused by the
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 17:02 +0200, Markus Falb wrote:
> On 27.Sep.2013, at 16:52, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 10:43 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
> >> it may be an iOS 7 bug
> >
> > Right now I download iOS 7.0.2 ;). I'm not an Apple fan, I won the iPad.
>
> Tell us when you
On 27.Sep.2013, at 16:52, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 10:43 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>> it may be an iOS 7 bug
>
> Right now I download iOS 7.0.2 ;). I'm not an Apple fan, I won the iPad.
Tell us when you realize that you got duplicate copies ;-)
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On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 10:43 -0400, Catherine Gramze wrote:
> it may be an iOS 7 bug
Right now I download iOS 7.0.2 ;). I'm not an Apple fan, I won the iPad.
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:06 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> The formatting of your mails also is very unusual ^^.
>
> I suspect an issue with your mailers, Apple Mail (2.1510) and iPad Mail
> (11A465).
The spamming of myself seems to have stopped. I did nothing to cure it except
open up the p
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 10:50 PM, Tom H wrote:
>> I'd call it obscure rather than magical.
> Any sufficiently obscure technique is indistinguishable from magic - (my
> apologies to Arthur C. Clark).
:)
> On my recent ill-fated Gateway
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 09:02 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On a 2.4 GHz i7-4700MQ laptop with 16 GB of RAM (sorry Stan!)
The question is, if more cores and more RAM really make a difference for
averaged desktop usage. AFAIK more cores and RAM should be important for
video production, but for averaged deskt
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 07:36 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> It simply makes wiring your PC more difficult, as you have to balance
> your 12V devices across an arbitrary boundary placed across the 12V
> output current of your power supply.
> And of course, now you should be asking yourself, given wha
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Beco wrote:
> On 26 September 2013 22:22, Tom H wrote:
>>
>> (I've compiled a kernel on a netbook; you'd better have a few hours to
>> spare...)
>
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
>
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation wo
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 09:30:57AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to
> Debian, Ubuntu or Arch Linux defaults takes around 90 minutes (in the
> past perhaps a little bit less and today perhaps around 120 minutes, I
> need to check t
On 9/26/2013 9:57 PM, Beco wrote:
> Questions for people who compile kernel and their machines:
>
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like to
> have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM / anything else
> relevant)?
This depends entirely on what you
A point I forgot to make. This is something everyone should know.
Subject: The marketing myth of multiple +12V rails
Switching regulator MOSFETs provide the 3.3, 5/5VSB, and 12VDC output
current of a PC PSU. Before the days of waffle iron CPUs and GPUs, PSUs
had a single 12V regulator providin
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/26/2013 5:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner
>>> wrote:
On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>>
>>> Stan, joking aside, are ther
On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan wrote:
> > On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> >> Catherine Gramze wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running
> >>> Debian. I have had a bad experience with a store-b
Am 27.09.2013 04:40, schrieb Tom H:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Regid Ichira wrote:
>
>
> The following's what I've understood from #722604...
>
>
>> In view of http://bugs.debian.org/722580 and
>> http://bugs.debian.org/722604:
>>
>> A machine with:
>> - a custom, non initrd, l
On 9/26/2013 12:34 PM, Doug wrote:
> On 09/26/2013 01:05 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 9/25/2013 12:52 PM, Catherine Gramze wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sep 25, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>>
>
> /very large snip/
>
> I just left this final section to illustrate the tome of the whole thing:
>
Hi,
I have spent one week trying to fix a problem, about how to integrated
the .dll library from one java package to another OSGI based package and
build it as one plugin.
I have went through, nearly all I can find from google, still very very
confused. I wonder any of you, can help me go through
Benedict Verheyen gmail.com> writes:
> I wanted to give some feedback on the problem.
> I used the equivs package to work around the dependency of soprano-daemon
> on libiodbc2. Installing tdsodbc no longer triggered a gnome removal.
>
Would have been *really* useful if you told us how you ha
On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 09:30 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote:
> > How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like
> > to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM /
> > anything else relevant)?
>
> Building older an
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 23:57 -0300, Beco wrote:
> How long a "considered fast" kernel compilation would last? I'd like
> to have a clue. And in what kind of computer (processor / RAM /
> anything else relevant)?
Building older and current kernels with configurations that are close to
Debian, Ubun
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 21:18 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-09-25 at 21:47 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >>
> >> I thought that Arch's policy was to package the latest vanilla
> >> upstream versions.
> >
> > Correct!
>
> So why are you claimin
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
> (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
> as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned in a predictable
> manner anymore. This device name assignment can change from o
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 18:03 -0400, Rhiamom wrote:
> I am very glad the list is not being spammed. Now to figure out why I am
> getting half a dozen incomplete emails and three or so complete emails of
> each one I send to the list. Only mail to the list is affected. But it is
> likely an Apple M
On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 22:33 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 26 September 2013 16:57:34 Regid Ichira wrote:
> > I deliberately changed the subject of this message because I hope
> > people will also pay attention to my previous message in the
> > thread. At
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian
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