Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!

I'm going to go ahead and push this back to the lists, so people a little more cogent than I can jump in. On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Jack Wilborn wrote: > Joel, thanks for the input. As you can see from my post it is apparently in > the file as a character then a space. I think you've con

Re: How to use the debian installation iso for installing packages using aptitude

Just a small update. I uncommented out everything in sources.list so all my offline and online repositories are enabled. Ran apt-get update Commented out only my dvd-mountpoints, so no offline repository. Ran apt-key update Gave me the following output root@Innovator:~# apt-key update gpg: ke

Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > On 17/08/13 16:56, Jack Wilborn wrote: >> [...] >> sending any kind of e-mail or writing virtually impossible. Ｔｈｅ >> ｔｈｉｎｇｓ　ｃｈａｎｇｅｓ　ｆｏｎｔｓ！！ > > Oh, wow! > > It's not actually the 'font' changing there, but the character set or > 'Unicod

Re: A strange new phenomena

On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam wrote: > Zenaan Harkness writes: >> On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam wrote: >>> I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up >>> lately. >>> >>> Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. >> .. >>> It appears to be a mashup of the gr

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

PS: My suggestion to use git as an email filesystem store was in jest. ZFS however is a serious consideration for myself, for TiB+ size filesystems at least. BTRFS and perhaps XFS are starting now to look at the internal-consistency assurance problem too finally (from what I read a month or so ago)

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

On 8/18/13, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:52:05AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> In GahNU, answer find you :) >> >> But you ought to do your bit and find duckduckgo while you're at it. > > I am doing some searching myself, but I did want some opinions from > the list. Thank y

Re: A strange new phenomena

Zenaan Harkness writes: > On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam wrote: >> I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up >> lately. >> >> Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. > .. >> It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white >> scrol

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 02:52:05AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > In GahNU, answer find you :) > > But you ought to do your bit and find duckduckgo while you're at it. I am doing some searching myself, but I did want some opinions from the list. Thank you for sharing your opinions. Kumar -- Ap

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 02:28:46PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > And of course the simple solution is to migrate to mbox. Maildir was > created for a single purpose: to eliminate file locking contention on > the traditional UNIX single mbox file. With tens of thousands of emails > this is obviou

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 04:36:03PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Doing apt-get --purge remove > doesn't work in these situations. Oops, I actually meant to say apt-get --purge autoremove, not remove. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn.net gpg public key: http://www.gregn.net/pubkey.asc skype:

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

Gregory Nowak writes: > For example, installing linux-image-686-pae also installs > linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae. Which implies that linux-image-686-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae. > However, removing linux-image-686-pae doesn't also remove > linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae. Why should it

Re: A strange new phenomena

On 8/18/13, Harry Putnam wrote: > I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up > lately. > > Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. .. > It appears to be a mashup of the grub screen (light blue with white > scroll). and made into tiles mashed toge

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

Hi On 17/08/13 18:42, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 17:40 +0100, "Karl E. Jørgensen" wrote: >> Technically, a dummy package is never "needed" > Hi Karl, > > I disagree, in the past years I build a pulseaudio package because it > was needed. Now I need to fake that pulseaudio and gvfs

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 06:10:52PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > IIRC there's a command that can fake, that an unmet dependency is > fulfilled. I already searched for apt, dpkg, aptitude regarding to this > subject, but had no success. > > Am I mistake, is a dummy package needed? I have a question

A strange new phenomena

I've been seeing something entirely new and unexpected during boot up lately. Every few boots, something happens that prevents me logging in. I boot to console out of long habit, using startx when I want X, so with this peculiar phenomena I can't login to console. It appears to be something al

Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening

Sharon Kimble writes: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:21:57 -0400 > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Bob Proulx writes: >> >> > Ralph Katz wrote: >> >> Also of course: >> >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager >> > >> > I think the alternatives tool is better. >> > >> > $ update-alternatives --list

estreia musical neste domingo

Boa tarde, meu nome é Cesar, sou o produtor do musical "FranKamente Sinatra" e gostaria de convidar você para a estreia. Neste Domingo (dia 18 de agosto) às 20:00h na Miranda (Complexo Lagoon - Av.Borges de Medeiros, 1242 - Lagoa - Rio de Janeiro) Entrada normal: R$ 50,00 Entrada Lista Amiga

Re: sudo questions

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Aug 2013 at 03:12:39 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > >> But debian's installer tries to encourage the user to not enable root, > > No, it doesn't. Perhaps you would rather I said something like, it gives the option to establish an initial accoun

Re: Wheezy installer problem

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 02:34:40PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 05:47:32PM -0700, holtzm wrote: > > The problem was a bad cd. Another installed w/ no problem. "We don't > > need no stickin' checksum." No sir. Not us. uh, uhright! > > Isn't it "... need no stinkin' ch

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

On 8/17/2013 9:01 AM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: >> 1. What is the best filesystem for Maildirs with several tens of >> thousands of messages? ... >> 3. What filesystem would allow quick file access? I'd like to be able >> to view the Maildirs in Mutt, and index and search it using >> notmuch. XFS is so

Re: sudo questions

On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 03:12 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > johndoe sounds like a great name for an admin account. There's a Debian BSD port ;), so how about "Charlie Root"? > [snip] too long, didn't read -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Re: Quoting Style

In posting of the month John Hasler very perceptively said: Then why do you send it? There is no answer to that. But being -user . . . . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: sudo questions

On Sun 18 Aug 2013 at 03:12:39 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > But debian's installer tries to encourage the user to not enable root, No, it doesn't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archiv

Re: Quoting Style

On Saturday 17 August 2013 00:22:21 Bob Proulx wrote: > > Some mail/news readers such as Thunderbird can apply different color and > > format to quoted text. This makes reading much easier. > > But those colors are picked by the reader, not the writer.  When the > writer says blue there isn't any c

Re: Quoting Style

On Saturday 17 August 2013 15:47:37 Kim Christensen wrote: > > No! It's easier to read mails, when bottom or inline posting is > > used > > I suggest another name for this -- "contextual quoting"! I have always before heard it called interleaved posting. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: sudo questions

In case you're still confused, I'll try a little more direct response. (Lots of informative responses in this thread, but I feel a blog coming on. The rant I wrote on this a long time ago needs updating.) On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 7:14 PM, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > For some unknown reaso

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 12:29 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Dom writes: > > I'm not sure if there is anything that can directly bypass > > dependencies. > > "dpkg --force-depends " will. Don't use it. AFAIK this does not fulfil the dependency, it will cause an inconsistent system, since it doesn't

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 17:40 +0100, "Karl E. Jørgensen" wrote: > Technically, a dummy package is never "needed" Hi Karl, I disagree, in the past years I build a pulseaudio package because it was needed. Now I need to fake that pulseaudio and gvfs are installed, because Debian and Ubuntu follow ups

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

Dom writes: > I'm not sure if there is anything that can directly bypass > dependencies. "dpkg --force-depends " will. Don't use it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!

No need to post to boot@. Nothing to do with boot@. user@ should be just fine, for looking for a work-around. (switching to .) On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Jack Wilborn wrote: > > I have a problem with Debian, since the previous release and it has made > sending any kind of e-mail or writin

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

On 17/08/13 17:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hi :) IIRC there's a command that can fake, that an unmet dependency is fulfilled. I already searched for apt, dpkg, aptitude regarding to this subject, but had no success. Am I mistake, is a dummy package needed? I'm not sure if there is anything that

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

On 8/18/13, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:59:57AM -0400, Kumar Appaiah wrote: ...storing email in single file... >> One approach I thought of is a loopback file. That makes things >> simpler, since I don't really have to repartition, and backing up is >> rather easy. So, here a

Re: Quoting Style

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-08-16 16:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > No! It's easier to read mails, when bottom or inline posting is > used I suggest another name for this -- "contextual quoting"! That is, the art of only quoting what is needed for the sake of argument/discus

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

Hi On 17/08/13 17:10, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > IIRC there's a command that can fake, that an unmet dependency is > fulfilled. I already searched for apt, dpkg, aptitude regarding to this > subject, but had no success. > > Am I mistake, is a dummy package needed? Well... not a command per se

Re: Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

On 2013-08-17 18:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > IIRC there's a command that can fake, that an unmet dependency is > fulfilled. I already searched for apt, dpkg, aptitude regarding to this > subject, but had no success. With dpkg you can --force-depends, but then apt will not be happy about the s

Fake fulfilled dependency without dummy package

Hi :) IIRC there's a command that can fake, that an unmet dependency is fulfilled. I already searched for apt, dpkg, aptitude regarding to this subject, but had no success. Am I mistake, is a dummy package needed? Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Quoting Style

Jerry Stuckle a écrit : > On 8/17/2013 9:05 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Jerry Stuckle a écrit : >>> >>> The important point here, as Bob pointed out, is that the coloring >>> appears on YOUR system. >> >> Of course. I didn't say otherwise. It makes reading and replying easier >> for ME, if that w

Re: Loopback filesystems for mail storage

On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 09:59:57AM -0400, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > Hi. > > This may be slightly OT, but I hope people don't mind much. > > I'd like to come up with an efficient way to store and access my > e-mail using a loopback file, so I wanted some advice from experienced > people on the list.

Loopback filesystems for mail storage

Hi. This may be slightly OT, but I hope people don't mind much. I'd like to come up with an efficient way to store and access my e-mail using a loopback file, so I wanted some advice from experienced people on the list. Currently, I've been using only vanilla ext[34] file systems, but my Maildir

Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:21:57 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > > Ralph Katz wrote: > >> Also of course: > >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager > > > > I think the alternatives tool is better. > > > > $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > > > > $ update-a

Re: Quoting Style

Pascal Hambourg writes: > I do not care how it appears on YOUR system. Then why do you send it? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: xfce on jessie has no icons on desktop

Sorry! Sent privately instead of to the list. On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Patrick Wiseman wrote: On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Today, after I rebooted after an upgrade a day or two ago, suddenly there > are no icons on my desktop in xfce. Usually it has a few files

Re: Quoting Style

On 8/17/2013 9:05 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 8/17/2013 6:33 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Bob Proulx a écrit : Pascal Hambourg wrote: Some mail/news readers such as Thunderbird can apply different color and format to quoted text. This makes reading much easier. But th

Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening

Bob Proulx writes: > Ralph Katz wrote: >> Also of course: >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager > > I think the alternatives tool is better. > > $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > > $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager > > Then to configure it: > > # update-a

Re: Quoting Style

Jerry Stuckle a écrit : > On 8/17/2013 6:33 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Bob Proulx a écrit : >>> Pascal Hambourg wrote: Some mail/news readers such as Thunderbird can apply different color and format to quoted text. This makes reading much easier. >>> But those colors are picked by the

xfce on jessie has no icons on desktop

Today, after I rebooted after an upgrade a day or two ago, suddenly there are no icons on my desktop in xfce. Usually it has a few filesystems and some random other things, but today it is blank. The menus are there as usual, though, so I can still use the thing. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRI

Jessie freezes, additional info.

Good time of the day. This letter is additional data on my investigation of the problem, started here . It turns that system deadly freezes due to disk's IO operation: . ps shows that CPU is 0 idle and 100 waiting . iotop shows that l

Re: Quoting Style

On 8/17/2013 6:33 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Bob Proulx a écrit : Pascal Hambourg wrote: Some mail/news readers such as Thunderbird can apply different color and format to quoted text. This makes reading much easier. But those colors are picked by the reader, not the writer. The coloring al

Re: wheezy on T43

On Sat, 17 Aug 2013, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > 2013/8/17 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh : > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > >> how's 3D acceleration? on wheezy radeon keeps restarting until my > >> laptop hangs, removing radeon x11 is the only way, leaving no 3D > >> acceleration > >

Re: configuring grub[SOLVED]

Le 16/08/2013 11:15, Darac Marjal a écrit : > On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 11:02:20AM +0200, François Patte wrote: >> Bonjour, >> >> I tried to change the screen resolution and the splash screen in grub: >> >> 1- edited /etc/default/grub >> GRUB_GFXMODE=1280x1024 > That should work. In /etc/default/gru

Re: Quoting Style

Bob Proulx a écrit : > Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Some mail/news readers such as Thunderbird can apply different color and >> format to quoted text. This makes reading much easier. > > But those colors are picked by the reader, not the writer. The coloring also applies to the quoted text in the re

Re: Timing Shorewall's startup

Karl E. Jørgensen a écrit : > > On 16/08/13 13:12, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> >> Karl E. Jørgensen a écrit : >>> >>> Why do you need shorewall to wait for the interface? >> Maybe because it needs to know its IP address ? > > Yes - that's sort of what I was alluding to. If the box is a router, > th

Re: wheezy on T43

2013/8/17 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh : > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: >> how's 3D acceleration? on wheezy radeon keeps restarting until my >> laptop hangs, removing radeon x11 is the only way, leaving no 3D >> acceleration > > It just works (as well as you can expect from a R300-fa