Postgresql wont restart. Can I clear shared memmory segments without rebooting?

2010-01-04 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi I have a remote server running debian etch, that has only 1G of ram, (that i cannot easily add ram to), that runs a large postgresql 7.4 database and it occasionally runs out of enough shared memory. The database is static and I no longer add data to it. The machine sits on the network and i

Re: Showing only files on a virtual desktop

2010-01-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Ogya Chief writes: > I am running sid and kde desktop and I want to see only the files associated > with a particular virtual desktop and not all open files on other virtual > desktops in the panel. I have checked the online kde manual but I did not see > anything on this issue. Is it possi

Re: Server Freezes

2010-01-04 Thread Roman Gelfand
Below is the contents of debug file when machine was rebooted. Jan 4 17:17:53 mail kernel: [0.00] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 153584) 0 entries of 256 used Jan 4 17:17:53 mail kernel: [0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 153584 Jan 4 17:17:53 mail kernel: [0.00] DMA zone:

Server Freezes

2010-01-04 Thread Roman Gelfand
I am running Lenny patched up. On this machine I am running sun virtualbox virtual machine. The guest os of this machine is patched up lenny. On the guest os I am running postfix and various anti spam servers. Several times now, I find that after several days of operation, the virtual machine f

Roman Gelfand has invited you to open a Google mail account

2010-01-04 Thread Roman Gelfand
I've been using Gmail and thought you might like to try it out. Here's an invitation to create an account. --- Roman Gelfand has invited you to open a free Gmail account. To accept this invitation and register for your account,

Re: Memory card has no UUID. How to give it one?

2010-01-04 Thread jidanni
OK I was able to set a FAT UUID... $ lshal|sort|uniq -u #shows block.device = '/dev/sda1' (string) block.device = '/dev/sdb1' (string) volume.uuid = '' (string) volume.uuid = '2004-1223' (string) In /etc/mtools.conf using drive a: file="/dev/sda1" drive b: file="/dev/sdb1" # minfo a: b:|sort|

RE: multiple applications segfault with error 6

2010-01-04 Thread Kevin Ross
Two things immediately come to mind. Bad memory, or a corrupt library file. Run memtest86 to check the memory. Run "debsums -c" to check for corrupt files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debia

Re: [Hint] Antialiasing fonts for tcl/tk applications

2010-01-04 Thread Anthony Baldwin
--- On Mon, 1/4/10, Rob Gom wrote: > From: Rob Gom > Subject: [Hint] Antialiasing fonts for tcl/tk applications > To: "debian-user List Debian" > Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 4:11 PM > Hi there, > posting in case not everybody knows. Previously fonts in > Tk > applications were ... let's say,

Re: GRUB2?

2010-01-04 Thread Tom H
>> The upstart directory of 9.10 is /etc/init (whereas it was >> /etc/event.d in 9.04 as it is in Fedora). > Note this has changed in rawhide and no auto conversion is done. So if you > have custom upstart scripts they will break. Thanks for the info. it is a relief; I was worried that I was goin

multiple applications segfault with error 6

2010-01-04 Thread Tim Caulder
I get multiple messages like these from dmesg. I'm not sure if this is a bug in a library or something is fubar with my system. It seems only gnome applications are effected (crash). I thought this was an xrandr issue until today when I saw the messages for ld-2.10 (below). output from dmesg

Re: Handle each file at a time in loop?

2010-01-04 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 02:00:31AM +0530, Foss User wrote: > $ ls [snip] > > Of course, this doesn't do what I need. The names are split wherever > there are spaces. if you want to work with spaces in shell scripts have a look at IFS (man bash sh dash) the trick is SAVEIFS="$IFS" IFS=" " IFS

Re: Case Preservation

2010-01-04 Thread Mark Neidorff
Seems to me like a shell script using the tr command will do what you want. Here is a web site with (not the exact, but close) code that you need to solve your problem. http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-use-linux-unix-tr-command/ Mark On Monday 04 January 2010 06:19 am, RogerV wrote: > I've

Re: Problem on dpkg --unpack.

2010-01-04 Thread Guillaume Ayoub
> Please file a bug against libc6. Done: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563726 I added a comment in the bug report linkinkg to this thread, should be up in a minute. > A debdiff showed that there is a new patch in eglibc 2.10.2-3, > debian/patches/any/cvs-futimens.diff, that cau

Re: Slow NFS

2010-01-04 Thread Chris Davies
Andrew Reid wrote: > There is a performance-tuning section in the NFS Howto, > with several tips, including simple tests for measuring performance. > Thanks for the reminder. Somehow I'd missed that section of the Howto. > My own experience w

Re: Masquerading problems: squeeze via lenny

2010-01-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,03.Jan.10, 12:14:37, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Have you checked IPV6 issues discussed recently on debian-devel? > > I just tried commenting out > > net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1 > > in /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf but no change. The Lenny box also has > IPV6_DISABLED=yes set in shorewall.c

Re: Masquerading problems: squeeze via lenny

2010-01-04 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,04.Jan.10, 16:32:42, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 07:45:07PM +0100, Marc Schröder wrote: > > its better to setup a propper mtu size on the gateway. then all > > clients behind will work without extra modifications. > > Yes, if the problem is caused by a gateway you c

Scroll Lock

2010-01-04 Thread Bob Brewer
Hi Is there a reason why the 'Scroll Lock' key on my up to date SID / KDE4 box is inoperative. If I run "xmodmap -e 'add mod3 = Scroll_Lock'" I can re-enable it, but I don't want to compromise any functions that may need 'Scroll Lock' disabled. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-

Re: Handle each file at a time in loop?

2010-01-04 Thread Rick Pasotto
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 02:00:31AM +0530, Foss User wrote: > $ ls > convert.sh Track 1.wav Track 3.wav Track 5.wav Track 7.wav Track 9.wav > Track 1.mp3 Track 2.wav Track 4.wav Track 6.wav Track 8.wav > > So, you can see there are file names with spaces in them. I have > written a script

Re: read command not reading from pipe. why?

2010-01-04 Thread Mark Allums
On 1/4/2010 1:10 PM, Foss User wrote: I see that the read command stores input entered only on the console into the variables. Example: $ read a foo $ echo $a foo But when I don't enter input on the console by keyboard, but pipe it into the standard input of read, I am unable to store the input

Re: Where are the jigdo files for amd64?

2010-01-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
Vincent Lefèvre wrote: >On 2010-01-04 14:04:16 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Looks like a temporary build failure early this morning; I'll retry >> amd64 by hand once the other architectures are finished. > >Is it normal that the files from last week are removed in such a case? At the moment tha

Re: Squeeze vs. Lenny update frequency?

2010-01-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 2010-01-04 10:20:45, schrieb Mark: > I just installed Squeeze for the first time last week and today it indicated > 41 updates were available. I'm used to Lenny's couple of updates per week > average; does Squeeze update that much more? I did some Googling but didn't > find much out th

Re: Squeeze vs. Lenny update frequency?

2010-01-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 2010-01-04 13:38:55, schrieb Tim Tebbit: > Mark wrote: > > I just installed Squeeze for the first time last week and today it > > indicated 41 updates were available. I'm used to Lenny's couple of > > updates per week average; does Squeeze update that much more? I did > > some Googling

Showing only files on a virtual desktop

2010-01-04 Thread Ogya Chief
Hi All, I am running sid and kde desktop and I want to see only the files associated with a particular virtual desktop and not all open files on other virtual desktops in the panel. I have checked the online kde manual but I did not see anything on this issue. Is it possible to do that? I wan

Re: Handle each file at a time in loop?

2010-01-04 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Foss User wrote: > $ ls > convert.sh Track 1.wav Track 3.wav Track 5.wav Track 7.wav Track 9.wav > Track 1.mp3 Track 2.wav Track 4.wav Track 6.wav Track 8.wav > > So, you can see there are file names with spaces in them. I have > written a script like this to handle one file name at a t

Handle each file at a time in loop?

2010-01-04 Thread Foss User
$ ls convert.sh Track 1.wav Track 3.wav Track 5.wav Track 7.wav Track 9.wav Track 1.mp3 Track 2.wav Track 4.wav Track 6.wav Track 8.wav So, you can see there are file names with spaces in them. I have written a script like this to handle one file name at a time. for file in `ls *.wav` d

Re: read command not reading from pipe. why?

2010-01-04 Thread Lorenzo Beretta
Foss User ha scritto: I see that the read command stores input entered only on the console into the variables. Example: $ read a foo $ echo $a foo But when I don't enter input on the console by keyboard, but pipe it into the standard input of read, I am unable to store the input into the variab

Re: Video conversion

2010-01-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 09:32, Tim Frink wrote: > I would like to convert an old video file using the > Intel indeo codec into a video format that is supported > by nowadays video players. What software could I use > for the conversion under Debian Lenny? Indeo, eh? Convert it quick while you stil

Re: read command not reading from pipe. why?

2010-01-04 Thread Teemu Likonen
On 2010-01-05 00:40 (+0530), Foss User wrote: > But when I don't enter input on the console by keyboard, but pipe it > into the standard input of read, I am unable to store the input into > the variable. > > $ echo bar | read a > $ echo $a > foo Because of piping command "read a" is executed in a

Re: Sharing firefox settings in seamonkey

2010-01-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 07:49, T o n g wrote: > Hi, > > Quick question, has anyone tried to use firefox settings (homepage > setting, bookmark, saved password, etc) in seamonkey? SeaMonkey 2.0 can be used with Weave, although it will not sync bookmarks (just settings, form history, passwords, etc

Re: [debian-users] Integration of development tools

2010-01-04 Thread Ted Hilts
Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 10:38:23PM -0700, Ted Hilts wrote: I am looking for some advice regarding integration of tools for development purposes. I have obtained the following over the internet.: 1. All debian binary and source DVD ISOs (for the present stable vers

read command not reading from pipe. why?

2010-01-04 Thread Foss User
I see that the read command stores input entered only on the console into the variables. Example: $ read a foo $ echo $a foo But when I don't enter input on the console by keyboard, but pipe it into the standard input of read, I am unable to store the input into the variable. $ echo bar | read a

Re: Squeeze vs. Lenny update frequency?

2010-01-04 Thread Vasco Costa
On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 10:20 -0800, Mark wrote: > I just installed Squeeze for the first time last week and today it > indicated 41 updates were available. I'm used to Lenny's couple of > updates per week average; does Squeeze update that much more? I did > some Googling but didn't find much out t

Re: Squeeze vs. Lenny update frequency?

2010-01-04 Thread Tim Tebbit
Mark wrote: > I just installed Squeeze for the first time last week and today it > indicated 41 updates were available. I'm used to Lenny's couple of > updates per week average; does Squeeze update that much more? I did > some Googling but didn't find much out there as far as update > frequencies

Squeeze vs. Lenny update frequency?

2010-01-04 Thread Mark
I just installed Squeeze for the first time last week and today it indicated 41 updates were available. I'm used to Lenny's couple of updates per week average; does Squeeze update that much more? I did some Googling but didn't find much out there as far as update frequencies. Just curious so I k

Adv Q: less -j -6 and LESS

2010-01-04 Thread T o n g
Hi, I use to have LESS=ij-6 in my environment. but now I get Invalid line number (press RETURN) Since it works before and 'less -j -6" still works, do you think I should raise a bug report, or there are new ways setting the environment var? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)

Re: Problem on dpkg --unpack.

2010-01-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-01-04 18:39 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2010-01-04 17:48 +0100, Guillaume Ayoub wrote: > >> I have the same problem. It appeared just after upgrading libc6 from 2.10.2-2 >> to 2.10.2-3. Looking at the eglibc Changelog may help (but I didn't find >> anything). > > Please file a bug agai

Re: Problem on dpkg --unpack.

2010-01-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-01-04 17:48 +0100, Guillaume Ayoub wrote: > I have the same problem. It appeared just after upgrading libc6 from 2.10.2-2 > to 2.10.2-3. Looking at the eglibc Changelog may help (but I didn't find > anything). Please file a bug against libc6. > I tried to find the reason, and it seems to

Re: [OT] How to compose email

2010-01-04 Thread John Hasler
Freeman writes: > I've always thought there "should" be an html version of "The Elements > of Style" online. But html is the very antithesis of style and the epitome of excess verbiage. The full text of the 1918 edition: -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBS

Ebay Bidding Software

2010-01-04 Thread Roman Gelfand
Can anyone recommend an Ebay bidding software? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Problem on dpkg --unpack.

2010-01-04 Thread Guillaume Ayoub
>In <3bd412d41001031756t5871de86sd7963e6a0262f...@mail.gmail.com>, Magicloud >Magiclouds wrote: >>tar: ./postrm: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >>tar: ./postinst: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >>tar: ./md5sums: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >>tar: ./shlibs: Cannot utime: Bad file descri

Re: [OT] How to compose email [WAS] Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-04 Thread Freeman
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 01:41:51AM -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 17:00:11 -0800 > Freeman wrote: > > ... > > > I am forever struggling to keep posts brief, to be expeditious in editing > > them down, to get to the point, to include vital details, and to somehow > > avoid being disin

set apache ulimit

2010-01-04 Thread Tudod Ki
how can I set apache [1.3] ulimit from the default 1024? thanks

[Hint] Antialiasing fonts for tcl/tk applications

2010-01-04 Thread Rob Gom
Hi there, posting in case not everybody knows. Previously fonts in Tk applications were ... let's say, ugly (not antialiased). It appears that it's changed - on tk8.5 they look much better (antialiasing is enabled). In order to take advantage of that, one has to: 1. change wish alternative (update-

disable python for one virtualhost

2010-01-04 Thread Tudod Ki
How? I want to block TorrentFlux on a domain, that is on our server. :\ Please help thanks

Re: Where are the jigdo files for amd64?

2010-01-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-01-04 14:04:16 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Looks like a temporary build failure early this morning; I'll retry > amd64 by hand once the other architectures are finished. Is it normal that the files from last week are removed in such a case? -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: KVM w/ network support under normal user.

2010-01-04 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 04. 01. 2010 07:48:53 je Sthu Deus napisal(a): Good day. How I can run KVM w/ network support under normal user? I don't know about network support, but to run kvm you have to add your user to the kvm group. Unfortunately, I don't recall anymore if that gets set up automagically whe

Re: Where are the jigdo files for amd64?

2010-01-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2010-01-04 14:38:23 +0100, Nick Douma wrote: > It's not limited to the Jigdo files either, all weekly-builds for > AMD64 are missing. Yep, I noticed that a bit after. :( I could burn a netinst ISO image, though. Currently everything works fine. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web:

Re: Where are the jigdo files for amd64?

2010-01-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
>Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Any reason why the following directories are empty? >> >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-cd/ >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dvd/ >> >> IIRC, there was something yesterday. >> > >It's not limited to

Re: aptitude forces full-upgrade

2010-01-04 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 07:00:25AM -0600, Mumia W.. wrote: > Javier Barroso wrote: >> On 01/02/2010 04:49 PM, Mumia W.. wrote: >>> I just upgraded Squeeze, but I had to use apt-get rather than >>> aptitude because aptitude wanted to force me to install a lot of new >>> programs (do a full-

Re: Where are the jigdo files for amd64?

2010-01-04 Thread Nick Douma
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Hi, > > Any reason why the following directories are empty? > > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-cd/ > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dvd/ > > IIRC, there was something yesterday. > It's not limited to the Jigdo f

Re: Installing Debian over a Fedora 12 system

2010-01-04 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 12:31:02PM +, James Allsopp wrote: > Hi, > I've a Fedora 12 system which I'm distinctly unimpressed by, and want to > install Debian. It's currently set up with two 1 tb drives. These both > have a 250 Mb boot partition and then the rest is a RAID 1, hosting LVM > for th

Where are the jigdo files for amd64?

2010-01-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
Hi, Any reason why the following directories are empty? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-cd/ http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/jigdo-dvd/ IIRC, there was something yesterday. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible vali

Re: aptitude forces full-upgrade

2010-01-04 Thread Mumia W..
Jochen Schulz On 01/02/2010 04:49 PM, Mumia W.. wrote: I just upgraded Squeeze, but I had to use apt-get rather than aptitude because aptitude wanted to force me to install a lot of new programs (do a full-upgrade). [...] The difference between "safe-upgrade" and "full-upgrade" is that the

Re: aptitude forces full-upgrade

2010-01-04 Thread Mumia W..
Javier Barroso wrote: On 01/02/2010 04:49 PM, Mumia W.. wrote: I just upgraded Squeeze, but I had to use apt-get rather than aptitude because aptitude wanted to force me to install a lot of new programs (do a full-upgrade). [...] I'm not sure, but maybe aptitude wants to install recommends.

Re: Installing Debian over a Fedora 12 system

2010-01-04 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
James Allsopp schreef: Hi, I've a Fedora 12 system which I'm distinctly unimpressed by, and want to install Debian. It's currently set up with two 1 tb drives. These both have a 250 Mb boot partition and then the rest is a RAID 1, hosting LVM for the other partitions. Am I going to have to back u

Re: 'sux -c program username' does not work.

2010-01-04 Thread Clive Standbridge
Hi Stu, > $ sux -c kate edit > Unknown id: eval $TERM; exec env TERM='xterm' DISPLAY=':0' > "kate" "edit"; > > $ sux -m -c kate edit > getent: invalid option -- c > Try `getent --help' or `getent --usage' for more information. > WARNING: --preserve-environment has been set, but no good valu

Installing Debian over a Fedora 12 system

2010-01-04 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, I've a Fedora 12 system which I'm distinctly unimpressed by, and want to install Debian. It's currently set up with two 1 tb drives. These both have a 250 Mb boot partition and then the rest is a RAID 1, hosting LVM for the other partitions. Am I going to have to back up all of my data in home

Re: 'sux -c program username' does not work.

2010-01-04 Thread Clive Standbridge
On Mon 4 Jan 2010 11:55:02 +(+), Clive Standbridge wrote: > Hi Stu, Sorry I misspelled Sthu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Case Preservation

2010-01-04 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:19:23 -0800, RogerV wrote: > I've copied the contents of the ./htdocs directory from Apache Web > Server running on Windows XP to a FAT32 formatted USB stick, and then > copied from the USB Stick to the htdocs directory of an Apache Web > Server running under Debian Lenny. T

Case Preservation

2010-01-04 Thread RogerV
I've copied the contents of the ./htdocs directory from Apache Web Server running on Windows XP to a FAT32 formatted USB stick, and then copied from the USB Stick to the htdocs directory of an Apache Web Server running under Debian Lenny. The copy process has changed the case of some of the docume

Re: alternate web browser etc...

2010-01-04 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
> Bernard : > I wish to install an alternate web browser epiphany-webkit > As for newsgroups, I also wish to experiment something new. Up to > now, I have rarely used "Firefox" for usenet news, as I preferred > "pan". So do I > For e-mail, [...] I plan to use 'mutt', Claws-mail --

Re: KDE auto-login not working after kernel upgrade (2.6.30-2 -> 2.6.32)

2010-01-04 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Γιώργος Πάλλας schreef: A strange problem is occuring: After a kernel upgrade from 2.6.30-2 to 2.6.32 on an updated debian testing system, the user auto-login feature of KDE stopped working - instead I am presented with the kdm login screen. If I reboot with the old kernel, kde auto-logins the us

Re: alternate web browser etc...

2010-01-04 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 1/1/10, Bernard wrote: > Why not 'Opera', even if it is not free (I doubt if it is very expensive) ? > I may miss the knowledge of something better that Opera... > Opera is 'free' as in 'free to use'. So, no need to register, pay, or view adds; you can also request features, report bugs, etc.;

Re: A-posteriori use of another HDD for the /home/username

2010-01-04 Thread Merciadri Luca
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." writes: > In <87fx6mkfhn@merciadriluca-station.merciadriluca>, Merciadri Luca wrote: >>$ cp *.* >>is equivalent to >>$ cd . ; cp * > > Not true. > > The second misses a file named "foo", as the shell glob "*.*" only match

Re: Problem on dpkg --unpack.

2010-01-04 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <3bd412d41001031756t5871de86sd7963e6a0262f...@mail.gmail.com>, Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: >tar: ./postrm: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >tar: ./postinst: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >tar: ./md5sums: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >tar: ./shlibs: Cannot utime: Bad file descriptor >

Re: Erratum - Re: Removing the indent-string quote marker '>' in emails.

2010-01-04 Thread Lisi
On Monday 04 January 2010 06:31:57 Chris Jones wrote: > > Erratum: proprietorial :-(   > > > > I am a lousy typist - but I cannot work out how my finger hits "a" when I > > aim for "e".  It happens, however, quite often. :-( > > Whichever way you spell it, I don't think there is such a word..?? Th

Re: A-posteriori use of another HDD for the /home/username

2010-01-04 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <87fx6mkfhn@merciadriluca-station.merciadriluca>, Merciadri Luca wrote: >$ cp *.* >is equivalent to >$ cd . ; cp * Not true. The second misses a file named "foo", as the shell glob "*.*" only matches filenames with at least one '.' character in their name. >$ cp .* >is equivalent to >$ c

Re: gaim and pidgin connection problem

2010-01-04 Thread bruno
Daniel Bareiro wrote: Hi, Yuwen. On Wednesday, 23 December 2009 15:16:42 +0800, Yuwen Dai wrote: I don't have such a problem. Can you get some kind of hint from the output of the pidgin debug output window? The error message is : Our protocol is not supported by the server. Th