Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-07 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/2/8 Daniel Burrows : > Hello list, > > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. > > I have a need to write some code that can manage job control on a > terminal. More specifically, I need to run a single process and stuff > it into the background at will, so that it gets suspende

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread Mark Allums
S D wrote: Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. Thanks $ uname -a Linux test 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 20

Re: 24 bit usb sound on lenny

2009-02-07 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:54:41PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Hallo all! > > On switching my usb sound card to 24bit audio, all applications using > the card will crash/segfault: > > $ aplay led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav > Playing WAVE 'led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav' : Si

Re: Strange arp problem

2009-02-07 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:13:11 +1100 Alex Samad wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:10:43PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > I've posted about this before, but I still have no solution. > > > > I have a machine with an Atheros WiFi card. From lspci: > > > > 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communica

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Daryl Styrk
How about including recommended reading material along with language recommendations and opinions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Strange arp problem

2009-02-07 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:10:43PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > I've posted about this before, but I still have no solution. > > I have a machine with an Atheros WiFi card. From lspci: > > 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 > Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (r

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:20:30PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 11:40:29AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > > > I've done a

Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 22:59:25 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:43:11PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 18:58:13 Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. > > > > The source for /bin/dash and /bi

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Wagner
* Michael Wagner 07.02.2009 > * S D 07.02.2009 > > > Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? > > I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only > > means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. > > You can use the "Custo

Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:43:11PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 07 February 2009 18:58:13 Daniel Burrows wrote: > > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. > > The source for /bin/dash and /bin/bash are available. You might should be > able to peruse them and f

Re: Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 18:58:13 Daniel Burrows wrote: > I've been banging my head on this one for a while. The source for /bin/dash and /bin/bash are available. You might should be able to peruse them and find the correct way to suspend/resume/detach/etc. processes. -- Boyd Stephen Smi

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 16:24:51 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > > On Saturday

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 19:20:30 Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > This is why I'm transitioning to Ada. > Ada was written as a standard long > before the first compiler was done, then the compilers had to meet the > standard. Ada programs are totally portable from one machine to another > (unless, o

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-07 Thread Kelly Harding
2009/2/8 Stefan Monnier : >> What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an >> open-source software alternateive for it :P] If you use XFS the xfsdump/xfsrestore programs are very good. Theres also clonezilla which should do the job. Kelly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread John Hasler
S D writes: > You probably have Iceweasel version earlier than "Iceweasel/2.0.0.19 > (Debian-2.0.0.19-0etch1)". I remember I used to be able to do that > too. Not anymore. I have 3.0.5. I can change it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-07 Thread Stefan Monnier
> What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > open-source software alternateive for it :P] - dump&restore - tar - cpio - rsync -a - cp -a Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread S D
-- End of message - --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > That's strange, I've just changed mine > successfully. You probably have Iceweasel version earlier than "Iceweasel/2.0.0.19 (Debian-2.0.0.19-0etch1)". I remember I used

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:18:16 +0200 Micha Feigin wrote: ... > be written using these (same goes for python BTW). Take for example > wicd-client > and tomboy. Using 15mb real and 215mb shared for wicd-client (python) may be > borderline but 32mb/303mb for tomboy (c#) is a bit extreme. Your shared

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 11:40:29AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new > > version of py

Strange arp problem

2009-02-07 Thread Celejar
I've posted about this before, but I still have no solution. I have a machine with an Atheros WiFi card. From lspci: 02:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor (rev 01) >From dmesg: ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2414 chip found (MAC: 0x7

Does anyone understand terminal job control?

2009-02-07 Thread Daniel Burrows
Hello list, I've been banging my head on this one for a while. I have a need to write some code that can manage job control on a terminal. More specifically, I need to run a single process and stuff it into the background at will, so that it gets suspended when it tries to read from the te

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Aneurin Price
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: >> > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > > On Saturday 07 Feb

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Thomas H. George
Out of town for a week, I'll try again next week. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: totem player

2009-02-07 Thread John Hasler
> At 6hrs I had to restart my browser and access the web site to restart > Totem. Is the some kind of time limit setting that I can disable or is > this controlled from the originating site? Some "Internet radio stations" do seem to have timeouts, but I don't know why you would have had to restart

totem player

2009-02-07 Thread John Lindsay
I have spent the day updating my one computer (running m$crap) whilst listening to my favourite station on my Debian computer (which has been up and running since Dec1 without a reboot which is more than I can say about the other OS!!!)). At 6hrs I had to restart my browser and access the web

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 03:28:20PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > > What must I

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Wagner
* S D 07.02.2009 > Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? > I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only > means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. You can use the "CustomizeGoogle" with which you can customize a

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 13:37:46 Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > > What must I do to be able to mount this image file? > > Could you run "file debxo-awesome.e

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/2/8 Thomas H. George : > Script started on Sat 07 Feb 2009 02:26:44 PM EST > dragon:/data/olpc# file debxo-awesome.ext3.img > debxo-awesome.ext3.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, active, > starthead 1, startsector 32, 3848160 sectors > dragon:/data/olpc# exit > > Script done on Sat

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-07 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/2/8 Nagy Daniel : > Hi, again :) :S > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > open-source software alternateive for it :P] > I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad > blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
S D wrote: > --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Jeff D wrote: > >> type in about:config in the address bar ,in filter put in >> browser.safebrowsing.enabled , then click on the line that >> shows up, >> should turn it to false >> > That won't work. The "browser.safebrowsing.enabled" property is LOCKED an

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread S D
--- On Sat, 2/7/09, Jeff D wrote: > > type in about:config in the address bar ,in filter put in > browser.safebrowsing.enabled , then click on the line that > shows up, > should turn it to false That won't work. The "browser.safebrowsing.enabled" property is LOCKED and can't be changed from

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:44:47AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > > I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the > > Debian Reference manual, for example > > > > mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.i

Re: iceweasel segfault

2009-02-07 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, Using a link in the New York Times to the transcript of Flight 1549, Iceweasel segfaults scrolling through the document. http://www.scribd.com/doc/11719666/Tracon-Transcript Anyone verify this? After upgrade of flashplayer no longer segfaults: h...@debian:~$ ap

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-07 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:05:44PM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Nagy Daniel wrote: > > Hi, again :) :S > > > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > > open-source software alternateive for it :P] > > I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "le

Re: No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread Jeff D
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, S D wrote: > > Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? I want > to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only means repeatedly > downloading some black-list file from their servers. > > Thanks > type in about:config in the address b

Re: Cloning methods

2009-02-07 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Nagy Daniel wrote: > Hi, again :) :S > > What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an > open-source software alternateive for it :P] > I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad > blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file > [l

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Madden
Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: HI, There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances use that language instead of the other. In many situations we can use anyone, but which is better. thanks a lot bela __

Cloning methods

2009-02-07 Thread Nagy Daniel
Hi, again :) :S What's the best method for cloning a partition? [searching for an open-source software alternateive for it :P] I mean cloning like in norton ghost, a program that could "leave" bad blocks behind, when cloning, and not making a 10 GByte output file [like the partition size is], but

Re: using modem with phone

2009-02-07 Thread David Baron
On Saturday 07 February 2009 01:04:19 debian-user-digest- requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 09:17:45PM +, Bhasker C V wrote: > > Hi all, > > > >  I tried to google around but could not even get a match near to what i   > > want. In fact i am running short of terminologie

Re: postgresql postrm script needs work

2009-02-07 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Jude DaShiell wrote: > Having failed to install postgresql on sid for reasons already discussed > on this list, I ran updatedb then did locate postgresql | less to see [snip] I doubt postgresql maintainers read this. File a bug. -- Eugene V. Lyubimkin aka JackYF, JID: jackyf.devel(maildog)gmail.c

postgresql postrm script needs work

2009-02-07 Thread Jude DaShiell
Having failed to install postgresql on sid for reasons already discussed on this list, I ran updatedb then did locate postgresql | less to see what I could find. Not to my surprise, I found all kinds of postgresql cruft littering my system after having done aptitude remove --purge postgresql i

No way to disable Google "safebrowsing" in IceWeasel?

2009-02-07 Thread S D
Is there a way to disable Google "safebrowsing" feature in IceWeasel? I want to have as little as possible with Google, even if it only means repeatedly downloading some black-list file from their servers. Thanks $ uname -a Linux test 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Fri Dec 12 16:48:28 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/

Re: audacious-crossfade

2009-02-07 Thread T o n g
On Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:09:29 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote: >> But it no longer exist from the official site. Does it ever exist? > > According to the last package maintainer audacious-crossfade is > "impossible to use reliably with audacious 1.5" . . . Thanks a lot Florian for your comprehensive

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 10:31:17 Thomas H. George wrote: > I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the > Debian Reference manual, for example > > mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop > > or > > mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o l

Re: mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Ding Honghui
Thomas H. George wrote: > I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the > Debian Reference manual, for example > > mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop > > or > > mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o loop > > In both cases the mount co

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > HI, > > There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, > > Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances > > us

mount foo.img problem

2009-02-07 Thread Thomas H. George
I have carefullly followed the instructions in man mount and in the Debian Reference manual, for example mount -o loop -t ext3 debxo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop or mount dexo-awesome.ext3.img /media/sdloop -t ext3 -o loop In both cases the mount command exits with a message: Can't find ext3

Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 07 February 2009 02:50:09 Magnus Therning wrote: > Mitchell Laks wrote: > > Common Lisp! > The only language with an oxymoron for a name ;-) Any serious person > would of course start with Haskell! Woohoo! Going through the "Wizard Book" and doing all the exercises in Haskell instead

Re: mounting dvdrw in latest etch

2009-02-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/07/2009 07:36 AM, lhuizi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I am trying to mount my sohw1693s liteon dvd rw drive in etch amd_64. I think I have edited /etc/fstab nearly out of existence and can't remember the original settings that didn't work. I recently did a netinstall of debian amd64. I h

24 bit usb sound on lenny

2009-02-07 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Hallo all! On switching my usb sound card to 24bit audio, all applications using the card will crash/segfault: $ aplay led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav Playing WAVE 'led_zeppelin-houses_of_the_holy-a.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo Segmentation fault kaffeine, amar

Re: Cannot compile gspca

2009-02-07 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 04:18:13AM -0500, Brad Sawatzky wrote: > > The gspca driver is merged into the mainline kernel for 2.6.27 and up. Use > 'make xconfig' to enable it, delete /usr/src/modules/gspca/ if it exists, > then rebuild and install the kernel package. > The gspca driv

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > HI, > There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, > Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances > use that language instead of the other. > > In many situations we can use any

mounting dvdrw in latest etch

2009-02-07 Thread lhuizi...@iinet.net.au
Hi, I am trying to mount my sohw1693s liteon dvd rw drive in etch amd_64. I think I have edited /etc/fstab nearly out of existence and can't remember the original settings that didn't work. I recently did a netinstall of debian amd64. I have a gigabyte intel chipset 945 board with two sata hdd

Re: umask problem

2009-02-07 Thread Ding Honghui
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Wednesday 04 February 2009 20:55:50 Ding Honghui wrote: >> Bash will not read the profile when in notty mode. >> The /etc/profile and .bash_profile both set the umask to 022, so after >> login, the hostA and hostB any user have same umask. >> The problem occurs in

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 20:45:03 -0600 "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote: > On Friday 06 February 2009 16:46:13 Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > The fact that it was developed by MS kinda creeps be but it has been > > standardized... > > I understand the distrust of MS, but C# is actually a pretty nice langua

Re: Term not set

2009-02-07 Thread Frank McCormick
Angus Auld wrote: > > --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Frank McCormick wrote: > >> From: Frank McCormick >> Subject: Re: Term not set >> To: l.glidewell.li...@gmail.com >> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 2:11 PM >> L Glidewell wrote: >>> On Thursday 05 February 2009 20:06

Re: Solid DSL gateway for server environment

2009-02-07 Thread Aiko Barz
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:42:39AM +0100, Chris Thompson wrote: > Hi all. > I run two mail and web servers from my house on a DSL line. Until a few > weeks ago I was on cable but a new ISP launched some good SME offers and I > decided to make the switch. And I drop all connections to port 25 from

Re: Cannot compile gspca

2009-02-07 Thread Brad Sawatzky
On Sat, 07 Feb 2009, Sridhar M.A. wrote: > I have installed linux-image-2.6.28-1-686 from the kernel trunk and the > corresponding header files (after building linux-kbuild from source). > Everything works fine except my webcam. The webcam works perfectly under > the kernel 2.6.26-1-686 from debia

Re: Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread frank
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 11:44 -0600, Michael Shuler wrote: > On 02/06/2009 11:25 AM, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: > > which is better. > > Similar to: > > what is the best ice cream flavor? Hagen Dazs - Pralines & Cream > what is the best car? Audi TT 3.2 (The new one) frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Which programming Language

2009-02-07 Thread Magnus Therning
Mitchell Laks wrote: > On 18:25 Fri 06 Feb , Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: >> HI, >> There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, >> Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances >> use that language instead of the other. >> >> In many situations we

Re: No more automatic standby with new controller card

2009-02-07 Thread Malte Forkel
Malte Forkel schrieb: > Hello list, > > after switching to a new controller card, the attached disk is not set > into standby mode anymore as configured in /etc/hdparm.conf. > > I recently installed a Delock 89143 PCI Express to SATA II x2 and PATA > Host Controller > (http://www.delock.com/produ