Re: migrating to 64 bit...

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:03:56AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:32:35PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> Alsom, FTR, I've learned that the biggest hurdle is the fact that you > >> can't complete the debootstrap process with

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-03-28 01:43 +0100, Jude DaShiell wrote: > This is one dpkg failed to recover from; just the relevant lines of > the script file follow: > Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. > Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error process

Re: exim4 hanging on startup

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:59:09PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > I was finally allowed to set up debian etch on my desktop system at work. I > was thinking of keeping windows xp for dual boot...but I asked myself why? > And now its debian only :) > > Anyways...on this

Re: open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonnel Christophe wrote: > I had a similar problem several months ago. I go to /etc/ssh/ssh_config > (on your franskenstein machine, not the server) and verify that you have > PasswordAuthentication no > > Hope this helps > Christophe > > > Rich Hea

Re: open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread Bonnel Christophe
I had a similar problem several months ago. I go to /etc/ssh/ssh_config (on your franskenstein machine, not the server) and verify that you have PasswordAuthentication no Hope this helps Christophe Rich Healey a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i've got a whole bunch

Re: How to store/get hosts names when using dhcp ?

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote: Jabka Atu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. I'm upgrading my small home network . today i use /etc/hosts on each machine to figure out where each host goe's as in : 192.168.0.1 whitebox.rent.net whitebox 192.168.0.2 bluebox.rent.net bluebox 192.168.0.3

exim4 hanging on startup

2008-03-27 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey everyone, I was finally allowed to set up debian etch on my desktop system at work. I was thinking of keeping windows xp for dual boot...but I asked myself why? And now its debian only :) Anyways...on this desktop etch exim4 takes around a minute to load at startup. I am not sure why this

Re: open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 10:59:52AM +1100, Rich Healey wrote: > >> and etch desktop, it still asks for my password. to debug ssh problems, you can start "ssh -v -p 222" on the client after a "sshd -D -d -p 222" on the server. Also note that besides file permissions on the server, also directory p

Re: How to store/get hosts names when using dhcp ?

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
Jabka Atu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. I'm upgrading my small home network . today i use /etc/hosts on each machine to figure out where each host goe's as in : 192.168.0.1 whitebox.rent.net whitebox 192.168.0.2 bluebox.rent.net bluebox 192.168.0.3 blackbox.rent

Re: Digital Camera

2008-03-27 Thread David Fox
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's also lsusb: > > (0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb > Bus 003 Device 001: ID : > Bus 002 Device 001: ID : > Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc. Most likely that's the bus ID of the camer

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Damon L. Chesser wrote: Michael Marsh wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is one dpkg failed to recover from; just the relevant lines of the script file follow: Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. Unpacking libdjvulibre2

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/08 22:38, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. > Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.deb) ... > dpkg: error processing > /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:46:43PM -0600, "Walt L. Williams" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: >> Was 10.1 bad? I wouldn't know. I went straight from 10.0, which >> was a fairly decent system, to 10.3. Although, the da

re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Jude DaShiell
Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/djvu/osi/cs/messages.xml', which is also i

Re: Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 03:10:05PM -0400, Chris Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > First things first. I typed in many popular search terms into that page, and > found that the instance of all were declining. I would also note that this is > only *one* search engine. It could simpl

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:46:43PM -0600, "Walt L. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Was 10.1 bad? I wouldn't know. I went straight from 10.0, which > was a fairly decent system, to 10.3. Although, the day I read the > announcement of SuSE's buy out I got the feeling they would

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:21:25AM -0400, Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > OK. Try that search again. This time add ", windows xp" (the comma will > give > you 2 graphs on the same axes), or try ", windows vista". I don't think that > this is a valid tool for predicting

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Marsh
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:34 PM, Damon L. Chesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Marsh wrote: > > If you've gotten to that point, presumably you have partially updated > > packages that depend on those (such as evince). What worked for me > > was to do a > > $ dpkg -r libdjvulibre15 >

Re: script doubt

2008-03-27 Thread Ken Irving
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 08:11:37AM +0530, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I have a scipt as follows. > #!/bin/bash > cd /home/lvgandhi/stock > tf=modbhav > rm -f AngelGoldPrice > for symbol in $(cat AngelGoldHoldings.txt) > do > grep "$symbol," $tf >> AngelGoldPrice > done > in the forloop if I put echo $symb

Re: Digital Camera

2008-03-27 Thread ajm
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:51:00AM +0100, s. keeling wrote: > David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect > > > Model Port > > > ---

script doubt

2008-03-27 Thread L . V . Gandhi
I have a scipt as follows. #!/bin/bash cd /home/lvgandhi/stock tf=modbhav rm -f AngelGoldPrice for symbol in $(cat AngelGoldHoldings.txt) do grep "$symbol," $tf >> AngelGoldPrice done in the forloop if I put echo $symbol, i get all the lines of file AngelGoldHoldings.txt. Each line in this file ha

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Damon L. Chesser
Michael Marsh wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is one dpkg failed to recover from; just the relevant lines of the script file follow: Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Owen Townend
On 28/03/2008, Walt L. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where can I find more information on "apt-get"? More that the small > PDF that I have already downloaded. Will it do a search for applications > using key words? I installed KDE by completely de-installing Gnome and > then installing K

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
Florian Kulzer wrote: One more thing worth mentioning is that the subroutine trick can also be used to loop over the columns of a dataset (using the "column" command), for example if you have a data file with one common x-axis and 100 y-datasets (columns) that you want plot in the same graph. (O

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Michael Marsh
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is one dpkg failed to recover from; just the relevant lines of the > script file follow: > Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. > Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.de

Re: how to determine from script if/where X is running

2008-03-27 Thread Raimund Steger
Hi, I am not sure if I understand the situation completely, but * like other Debian /etc/acpi scripts, you could run through /tmp/.X11-unix/X[0-9] which will point to locally running X servers, at least those that use UNIX sockets. * to directly reach the X server on the currently selected V

Re: Question about Desktop Environments

2008-03-27 Thread s. keeling
Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Klein Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >[?] > > >> > > >> Touche. But if I told my wife I married her for her cookies... > > > > > >Of course. Only at his peril does a man tell

Re: debian sdcc + pic16f877a help

2008-03-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:15:47PM +0800, jeffry s wrote: > is there anyone here who work on pic16f877a. i am using debian sid. > and doing c programming for pic16f877a. but i am new and don't have any idea > how > to start. anyone can help me or point me a good sdcc+pic tutorial out there. > > i

Re: Digital Camera

2008-03-27 Thread s. keeling
David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect > > Model Port > > -- > > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ >

Re: Digital Camera

2008-03-27 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 03/26/08 07:27, s. keeling wrote: > > > > (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect > > Model Port > > -- > > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ > > Buy a new camera? They

Re: What's heppening to Debian? Mono?

2008-03-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:08:39PM -0400, machiner wrote: > All apologies, I posted this earlier to the wrong list. > > AndWTF is this: $ aptitude search mono > > .. > > p libmono-microsoft-build2.0-cil - Mono Microsoft.Build libraries > > p libmono-microsoft7.0-cil

Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user

2008-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/08 19:32, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:21:22AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 03/25/08 06:10, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >>> >>> [Presidential choice] >>> Gus Hall forever >>

Re: dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/08 19:43, Jude DaShiell wrote: > This is one dpkg failed to recover from; just the relevant lines of the > script file follow: > Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. > Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre21_3.5.20

dpkg error

2008-03-27 Thread Jude DaShiell
This is one dpkg failed to recover from; just the relevant lines of the script file follow: Selecting previously deselected package libdjvulibre21. Unpacking libdjvulibre21 (from .../libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libdjvulibre21_3.5.20-5_i386.

Re: continuity of a topic in debian-user

2008-03-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 10:21:22AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/25/08 06:10, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > [Presidential choice] > > > >> Gus Hall forever > > > > Isn't he just a little bit c

Re: open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff D
Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff D wrote: Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). Keypairs work

Re: open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff D wrote: > Rich Healey wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, >> testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). >> >> Keypairs work f

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Walt L. Williams wrote: > Where can I find more information on "apt-get"? Please do not top-post. Information about apt-get and other questions that new users normally have are answered in "Debian Reference" document. To get it install debian-reference-en package. It can also be found online on

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
What a curious little debate this has been!! Like feeding trolls. I can't believe I actually wasted my valuable spring break time following it. W. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff D
Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). Keypairs work fine except on the frankenstein machine, with the same keypair as works on my sid

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:38:30PM -0600, Walt L. Williams wrote: > Where can I find more information on "apt-get"? More that the small > PDF that I have already downloaded. Will it do a search for applications > using key words? I installed KDE by completely de-installing Gnome and > then install

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 05:31:05PM -0600, Walt L. Williams wrote: > On Thursday, 27 March 2008 9:19 am, Bogdan Marian wrote: > > Netinst sound like its doing it over the internet. I only have dialup > (college budget) Thanks for the info. I WILL investigate it for future > use. So, I only have d

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
H.S. wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: > >> >> The gnuplot list is no match for the vast and mysterious powers of >> debian-user... > > How true! This is actually a very insightful observation. I have at > times wondered why that list or newsgroup is so low traffic. Perhaps it > is due to lack of

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 18:45:21 -0400, H.S. wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] >> For a small number of colors something like this is may be acceptable: >> >> # START >> unset key >> set xrange [0:1] >> set yrange [0:1] >> set multiplot >> plot "3cols.dat" using ($1):($3==1 ? $2 : 1/0) lt 1 >>

Re: How to store/get hosts names when using dhcp ?

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:57:09PM -0400, Jabka Atu wrote: > I'm upgrading my small home network . > today i use /etc/hosts on each machine to figure out where each host > goe's as in : > > 192.168.0.1 whitebox.rent.net whitebox > 192.168.0.2 bluebox.rent.net bluebox > 192.168.0.3 blackbox.rent.ne

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
Was 10.1 bad? I wouldn't know. I went straight from 10.0, which was a fairly decent system, to 10.3. Although, the day I read the announcement of SuSE's buy out I got the feeling they wouldn't last long. American corporate ethics are really pretty poor these days. It's almost like they teach t

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
H.S. wrote: > Now, usually, I would not avoid RTFM. And it is quite common for the > experienced users in the Linux community to make the assumption that the > other person is lazy and wants to be *always* spoon fed (BTW, it is > thankfully uncommon in this list, to be fair). Oh, it used to be th

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
Where can I find more information on "apt-get"? More that the small PDF that I have already downloaded. Will it do a search for applications using key words? I installed KDE by completely de-installing Gnome and then installing KDE and what ever bits of Gnome it needed for the applications I chos

Re: exim/postfix comparisons

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:13:37PM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote: > I guess I'll add myself to the sendmail people then. Can't be that bad > and I don't plan to spend vast amounts of time on that, only on a as > needed basis :) > > > If it were me and I only knew postfix, I'd find something else

open-ssh keypair Auth

2008-03-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, i've got a whole bunch of linux machines (mainly debian, with etch, testing, sid, and a frankenstein machine with mental pinning). Keypairs work fine except on the frankenstein machine, with the same keypair as works on my sid machine, my freeBSD

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Walt L. Williams
On Thursday, 27 March 2008 9:19 am, Bogdan Marian wrote: Netinst sound like its doing it over the internet. I only have dialup (college budget) Thanks for the info. I WILL investigate it for future use. Walt > > Hello, > > But you DO have a choice on which GUI to install. It depends on which >

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Walt L. Williams wrote: > (One request though. I prefer KDE and it would be nice > to have the option of which GUI I would like to use, > as it took a bit of hoop jumping to get the system > loaded with KDE.) Installing KDE is two commands apt-get update apt-get install xorg kde kdm hth raju --

Re: iBook multimedia keys and KDE

2008-03-27 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > I recently switched from GNOME to KDE on my iBook G4, but don't know how > to get the multimedia keys working. > > They worked fine under GNOME, but under KDE only the monitor brightness > keys work, albeit with no v

Re: Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My biggest remaining problem is ALSA. I > believe it to be successfully installed, since I used the same > installation path > that I had done earlier with my sarge. It seems to be installed but I > get no SOUND, although aplay seems to be going through the > motions.

Re: flash-made pictures

2008-03-27 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 18:01:25 +, steef wrote: > hi list, > > does anyone know a way to download so-called flash-pictures from a website? It depends on how much effort they make to keep you from doing this. If the flash object is just a fancy loader for images, audio/video files or multimedi

Re: openssh 4.7p1 Debian-4, OpenSSL 0.9.8g hangs after authentication

2008-03-27 Thread Christian Koerner
Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Hi: Hi Eike > Does somebody have a hint for me how to investigate this problem further: > Openssh hangs from my workstation to any ssh-server including the workstation > itself. > Using another client machine I can ssh into all machines allright, including > the Fawlty [(

Re: windows partition not usable

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff D
Hans-Gerhard Schrick wrote: Am Montag, den 24.03.2008, 22:45 + schrieb Hans-Gerhard Schrick: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/hda4 / reiserfs notail 0 1

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
Florian Kulzer wrote: The gnuplot list is no match for the vast and mysterious powers of debian-user... How true! This is actually a very insightful observation. I have at times wondered why that list or newsgroup is so low traffic. Perhaps it is due to lack of helpful people over there. Ad

windows partition not usable

2008-03-27 Thread Hans-Gerhard Schrick
Am Montag, den 24.03.2008, 22:45 + schrieb Hans-Gerhard Schrick: > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc/proc procdefaults0 0 > /dev/hda4 / reiserfs notail 0 1 > /dev/hda3 non

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
Johannes Wiedersich wrote: I did: set palette splot '3cols.dat' us 1:2:3 w p palette I don't know if that's what you want? Thanks, that worked. The knowledgeable soul told you to read the manual. Yes, I know. The usual 'RTFM'. Well, maybe I should put a few words here. First, he sugge

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/27/08 13:44, Wei Chen wrote: > Hi, > > Now I've learnt that debian is not actually losing any user. And the > community is ever growing as you wish. So there is nothing to worry > about. Wish you all the best. > > Cheers, > Wei > http://www.acp

iBook multimedia keys and KDE

2008-03-27 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, I recently switched from GNOME to KDE on my iBook G4, but don't know how to get the multimedia keys working. They worked fine under GNOME, but under KDE only the monitor brightness keys work, albeit with no visual feedback. I tried assigning global shortcuts in kcontrol, but the keys are not

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 15:52:58 -0400, H.S. wrote: > Hi, > > I have tried Gnuplot mailing list and the newsgroup but didn't get the > help I was looking for. So here my try there. > > Given a data file: > # 3cols.dat # > 0.28460.1857 1 > 0.82830.1330 2 >

How to set exim4 to send mails inside LAN ?

2008-03-27 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. I wish to have sevral exim4's in my network (while each has it own purpuse on diffrent machines). for now each exim can send mails to internet sites or to it own users (local delvery) but i wasn't able to send them to between the machines

Re: exim/postfix comparisons

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Marcher
Hello, On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 2:23 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've heard comments from respected frequent posters on this list both > that they use postfix and that debian's decision to have Exim as default > was controversial. > I also lurk on OpenBSD's misc list. OB

Re: Slow ping?

2008-03-27 Thread charlie derr
Andrei Popescu wrote: Hello everybody, My favorite radio station is not working correctly and I just run a ping on it and surprise! Have a look at the following: ,[ time ping live.eliberadio.ro ] | PING live.eliberadio.ro (80.86.106.3) 56(84) bytes of data. | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: ic

Re: Slow ping?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 04:57:43PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Can anybody explain why the first ping takes 5 times longer, while getting > > more than 5 times faster ping replies? > > Because ping does a DNS lookup, which has to time out as the first IP > has no reverse DN

Re: How to store/get hosts names when using dhcp ?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:57:09PM -0400, Jabka Atu wrote: > Hello,.. > > I'm upgrading my small home network . > today i use /etc/hosts on each machine to figure out where each host > goe's as in : > > 192.168.0.1 whitebox.rent.net whitebox > 192.168.0.2 bluebox.rent.net bluebox > 192.168.0.3 bl

[OT] SQL Inline Documentation

2008-03-27 Thread Martin Marcher
Hi, I'm looking for the doxygen equivalent (enhancement) whatever. What it should be able to do is to document: * DDL Statements * Functions * Triggers absolutely cool would be something that generates a graph of dependencies between the tables. Ubercool(TM) if it did an analysis of the trig

Re: Slow ping?

2008-03-27 Thread Joey Hess
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Can anybody explain why the first ping takes 5 times longer, while getting > more than 5 times faster ping replies? Because ping does a DNS lookup, which has to time out as the first IP has no reverse DNS assignment. ping -n. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Dig

How to store/get hosts names when using dhcp ?

2008-03-27 Thread Jabka Atu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello,.. I'm upgrading my small home network . today i use /etc/hosts on each machine to figure out where each host goe's as in : 192.168.0.1 whitebox.rent.net whitebox 192.168.0.2 bluebox.rent.net bluebox 192.168.0.3 blackbox.rent.net blackbox sinc

Re: Slow ping?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:40:07PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Can anybody explain why the first ping takes 5 times longer, while getting > more than 5 times faster ping replies? Forgot to mention, it's not a long delay and then a burst of replies, it's aprox. 5 seconds between *each* reply

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 02:58:34PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > In addition, there are two special Debian installation CDs that seem to > install KDE and Xfce4 by default. Since I'm a Debian "purist," I never use > them, but others will find them very useful. > > Perhaps rather than to encourage ne

Slow ping?

2008-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
Hello everybody, My favorite radio station is not working correctly and I just run a ping on it and surprise! Have a look at the following: ,[ time ping live.eliberadio.ro ] | PING live.eliberadio.ro (80.86.106.3) 56(84) bytes of data. | 64 bytes from 80.86.106.3: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=21.1

Re: gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 H.S. wrote: > Hi, > > I have tried Gnuplot mailing list and the newsgroup but didn't get the > help I was looking for. So here my try there. > > Given a data file: > # 3cols.dat # > 0.28460.1857 1 > 0.82830.1330

Re: I would like to give my congradulation

2008-03-27 Thread steve
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Walt L. Williams wrote: | Greetings all | | I just made the move from SuSE 10.3 to Debian Etch. | | When I updated from SuSE 10.0 to 10.3 I found myself | disgusted at how unpolished and rough it was. Things | that worked before didn't after the updat

openssh 4.7p1 Debian-4, OpenSSL 0.9.8g hangs after authentication

2008-03-27 Thread Eike Lantzsch
Hi: Does somebody have a hint for me how to investigate this problem further: Openssh hangs from my workstation to any ssh-server including the workstation itself. Using another client machine I can ssh into all machines allright, including the Fawlty [(c)John Cleese] one. One has also installed

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Mumia W..
On 03/27/2008 12:15 PM, Jeff Goodman wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it better for more people. However, be careful not to make it worse for the previously loyal users. If

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Mumia W..
On 03/27/2008 10:53 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it better for more people. However, be careful not to make it worse for the previously loyal users. If you add fancy but fra

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 27 March 2008 10:15:48 am Jeff Goodman wrote: > I'd love to see a project, within Debian or not, that works on "user > enhancement" packages. [EMAIL PROTECTED] anybody? -- Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 10:23:11 pm Wei Chen wrote: > Even if the losing of users is not proportional to the decrease of > search volume, there is a high probability that they are positively > correlated. Or none at all. Windows and Apple's search requests went down over the same period of t

Re: Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:04:40AM -0700, Jeff Goodman wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >> >>> Alsa has gone through some changes. And though I'm no expert at all, >>> you should likely provide us with some additional infor

gnuplot: plotting each point in different color

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
Hi, I have tried Gnuplot mailing list and the newsgroup but didn't get the help I was looking for. So here my try there. Given a data file: # 3cols.dat # 0.28460.1857 1 0.82830.1330 2 0.33060.8348 3 0.79610.7968 4

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Manu Hack
Now many people believe what google says and let google think for themselves. Dangerous. manu

Hmmm. A question. Was [Re: Debian is losing its users]

2008-03-27 Thread Chris Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Everyone, I have a couple of observations, and a couple of questions to think on. Monique Y. Mudama wrote: | On 2008-03-27, Wei Chen penned: |> Hi, |> |> I am somewhat disappointed that when you see that post, what most of |> you, if not all, r

flash-made pictures

2008-03-27 Thread steef
hi list, does anyone know a way to download so-called flash-pictures from a website? see www.herinnerdingen.nl thanks regards, steef -- drs. steef van duin publicist, research-journalist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EM

Re: Can I configure one truetype font for ghostscript while bitmap fonts for other applications?

2008-03-27 Thread Wu Kejia
Hi Tutty, Thank you for your reply. > What do you mean obscure? I understand that bitmap fonts are lousy for 'zoom' screen display, but in normal condition, bitmap fonts display more concrete on screen than truetype fonts, and this difference may not be very notable for western alphabet character

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Wei Chen
Hi, Now I've learnt that debian is not actually losing any user. And the community is ever growing as you wish. So there is nothing to worry about. Wish you all the best. -- Cheers, Wei http://www.acplex.com/people/wchen/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread H.S.
Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 26 March 2008 06:23:38 pm Cybe R. Wizard wrote: Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: PS: people don't like ponies either, apparently. http://www.google.com/trends?q=ponies&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0 want to see what's /really/ popular recently? h

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2008-03-27, Wei Chen penned: > > Hi, > > I am somewhat disappointed that when you see that post, what most of > you, if not all, reply to argue that the decrease of search volume > does not indicate the loss of users, rather than thinking of ideas > for something that can be done to help, which

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:15:48AM -0700, Jeff Goodman wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: >> >>> If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it >>> better for more people. >> >> However, be careful not to make it worse

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff Goodman
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it better for more people. However, be careful not to make it worse for the previously loyal users. If you add fancy but fragile knobs and eye-candy

Re: Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread Jeff Goodman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alsa has gone through some changes. And though I'm no expert at all, you should likely provide us with some additional information to help you on the way. Please provide the output of dpkg -l \*alsa\*

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Barr
Wei Chen wrote: > Hi, > > The search volume for Debian has been continuously decreasing in the > recent years, as shown in the search trend statistics of one of the most > famous search engines. This indicates that Debian is losing its users, > e.g. about 50% in the last 3 years. No. You are im

Re: Alsa Problems with new Etch

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:11:14PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:30:49AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote: > > Also, you may want to try running alsaconf and see what that does... He wrote: >I ran that first and that was all that was needed! It aske

no sound on compaq armada 7770dmt with ess-1878 sound card

2008-03-27 Thread joseph lockhart
well i have been working on getting an old compaq armada 7770dmt up and running with debian etch 4.0r2. everything works good, only i cannot get alsa to find the sound card at boot, sound card is a ess-1878. added the sound module to /boot/modules but that didn't seem to help, checked alsa manpage

Re: Cannot boot from root lvm volume: lvm2 broken?

2008-03-27 Thread Jack Schneider
On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:32:50 +0100 "Benjamin Kircher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > > need some advice over here. Installed Etch from netinstall iso and upgraded > to sid, which works flawlessly. All partitions except /boot are in a LVM > group (even my root fs is a LVM volume). The

Re: Can I configure one truetype font for ghostscript while bitmap fonts for other applications?

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:21:35PM -0700, Wu Kejia wrote: > Because truetype font is somewhat obscure on screen, I wish to use > truetype as printing font while bitmap fonts for screen display. Can I > do that? What do you mean obscure? If you use bitmap fonts for screen display, you'll get a lou

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 11:58:02AM -0700, Jeff wrote: > If you want Debian to be popular with more people, work at making it > better for more people. However, be careful not to make it worse for the previously loyal users. If you add fancy but fragile knobs and eye-candy, the fragility will sc

Re: Debian is losing its users

2008-03-27 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 01:23:11PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I am somewhat disappointed that when you see that post, what most of > you, if not all, reply to argue that the decrease of search volume does > not indicate the loss of users,

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