proper quoting (was: lvm mirror or mdadm mirror or raid 5)

2007-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.09.05.0050 +0200]: > > Please guys, engage in proper quoting! > you have a link to a how to for mutt ? There is nothing specific in mutt for this. Proper quoting just means that you trim the quoted text properly. There is no need to include all of t

Re: Is it a BUG????

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/05/07 00:28, Ramesh j wrote: > Hi all, > > This is Ramesh, I am using Debian 4.0 etch. Recent days i have > experienced some problem on booting Debian in my PC. > > Problem Description: > - > > 1. My BIOS ba

Re: Is it a BUG????

2007-09-04 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:28:23PM -0700, Ramesh j wrote: > 1. My BIOS battery is getting down so my system date is changed regularly. > 2. While booting Debian it shows your system is not checked for past > 42356 days so check forced. > 3. For every booting it shows like that only. It

except and bash

2007-09-04 Thread Chuck Payne
Guys, can someone show me how you would write a function using expect within a bash script. I am working on a couple admin tools. Thanks, Payne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Mike Bird
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 19:09, Adrian Levi wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 21:55 schrieb Mike Bird: > > > rsync -a -H -S /src/ /dest/ > > Would you not also need to set "umask " to preserve existing file > permissions? umask limits the file mode of a file created by syscalls s

Re: Problems regarding sound

2007-09-04 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Chris Lale escribe: > There was a previous thread [2] in which OSS apps running under ALSA > stopped working (eg XMMS, Audacity, etc). Check that /dev/dsp > exists; if not check that the snd_pcm_oss is loaded: You can also use aoss from alsa-oss package, this cheats an application so it thinks /de

Is it a BUG????

2007-09-04 Thread Ramesh j
Hi all, This is Ramesh, I am using Debian 4.0 etch. Recent days i have experienced some problem on booting Debian in my PC. Problem Description: - 1. My BIOS battery is getting down so my system date is changed regularly. 2. While booting Debian it shows

how to apply 'make' functions to for-loop index

2007-09-04 Thread Russell L. Harris
Is it possible to apply 'make' functions such as $(dir ...), $(suffix ...), $(basename ...), $(filter ...), etc., to the index of a bash for-loop, to enable operations such as: directories := red green yellow (for d in $(directories:/=); do

Re: Migrate debian services to a new debian system

2007-09-04 Thread Bob Proulx
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > then only problem I see is that since these boards are pretty > proprietary, they require some special modules, etc. to get everything > working. That would be my biggest concern for problems too. > However I guess I can just pre-install the asrock kernel on > the serve

Re: Shut down or leave on?

2007-09-04 Thread Bob Proulx
G.W. Haywood wrote: > ~$> echo "24 * 365.25" | bc > 8766.00 > > but I only did this to illustrate the more compact use of some system > tools, in this case 'echo', 'bc' and a pipe. :) While I am a long time bc user and won't knock it I might still suggest alternatives just because... If we stick

Re: system logs and localtime

2007-09-04 Thread Jeff D
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Tony Heal wrote: I have a remote server at a client site that had /etc/localtime pointing to Eastern instead of Central. I have fixed this. Is there a way for this to take affect without rebooting the server? Tony Heal After you reset your time, you will have to restart

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread icelinux
> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. In an odd paradox, we can never get rid of copyrights or licenses because then we could not require those companies or persons who sell open source software to make the source code available. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread icelinux
> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. Maybe, not definately. Money still runs the world, and can often get more done. We still have copyrights and patents, so what value is it ever going to be to a company to give away their trade secrets that they are making millions

Re: System freeze in Lenny

2007-09-04 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Matthew Lennig wrote: > I'm experiencing a system freeze-up in Lenny. Which package should > this be reported against? > > Some details: > > System: Abit AB9Pro motherboard > CPU: Intel Core Duo E6600 > Memory: 4GB > > The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several >

Re: libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more

2007-09-04 Thread Don
Steve Kemp wrote: On Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 11:54:23 -0500, Don wrote: I am using "sid" and yesterday my update/upgrade broke iceape, synaptic, and some others. I've had problems with libpango before, but this one has me stumped. I don't see anyone else having this problem, so I must conclude

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 21:19, blues wrote: > On Sep 4, 7:30 pm, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: > I would suggest a degree in something computer network related and some certifications. If you look through th

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Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 7:30 pm, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: > > >>> i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect > >>> a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does > >>> anyone have an

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Adrian Levi
On 9/5/07, Roland M. Kruggel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 21:55 schrieb Mike Bird: > > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 10:44, Roland M. Kruggel wrote: > > > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak: > > > > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file sys

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Roland M. Kruggel
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 21:55 schrieb Mike Bird: > On Tuesday 04 September 2007 10:44, Roland M. Kruggel wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak: > > > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's > > > content without loosing any file attributes, e

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 17:28, icelinux wrote: >>> i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect >>> a network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does >>> anyone have any tips as to what i should concentrate on? > > I would suggest a degree

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 17:50, blues wrote: > On Sep 4, 5:10 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. >>> Firs

Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread KS
Charles Turner wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:16:31 -0400, KS wrote: > >> I need to update the instructions too as I found some typos and that I >> have a bigger 4GB USB disk to test various drivers for the MBP. > > Hi KS- > > Cleaned up my internal and got the Grub off the MBR there. (Whew!)

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 5:10 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. > > > First step will be to use Linux full time as your main system. I recently > > started usi

Re: libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Kemp
On Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 00:43:46 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ firefox > > /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: > > /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl > > > > Interestingly the symbol is defined: > > > > [EMAIL

Re: lvm mirror or mdadm mirror or raid 5

2007-09-04 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 03:45:36PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.09.02.0044 +0200]: > > not sure why 3 way though, the spare space on the 3rd drive if > > i go 2 way i use for tmp or swap or ... > > I'd say even tmp or swap need to be redundant si

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread icelinux
> > i like the idea of using free software to monitor and protect a > > network, and I hope to make a career out of it...does anyone have > > any tips as to what i should concentrate on? I would suggest a degree in something computer network related and some certifications. If you look through t

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a pure learning experience there is gentoo (vaguely debian-like) or Linux From Scratch. If you fight your way through one of those installs you will know a lot of the tearful side of Linux. They don't hide the details, they glory in the low level nuts and bolts. I'

Re: libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more

2007-09-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Sep 4, 2007 at 23:39:46 +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > I see it too, on my AMD64 system: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ firefox > /usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: > /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_impl > > Interestingly the symbol i

Re: system logs and localtime

2007-09-04 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 Tony Heal wrote: > I have a remote server at a client site that had /etc/localtime > pointing to Eastern instead of Central. I have fixed this. Is there > a way for this to take affect without rebooting the server? It has already taken effect. You don't need to rebo

Re: libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Kemp
On Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 11:54:23 -0500, Don wrote: > I am using "sid" and yesterday my update/upgrade broke iceape, synaptic, and > some others. I've had problems with libpango before, but this one has me > stumped. I don't see anyone else having this problem, so I must conclude > something is

Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread Charles Turner
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:16:31 -0400, KS wrote: > I need to update the instructions too as I found some typos and that I > have a bigger 4GB USB disk to test various drivers for the MBP. Hi KS- Cleaned up my internal and got the Grub off the MBR there. (Whew!) Followed your instructions but rEFIt

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 4, 12:30 am, Amit Uttamchandani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Linux and Open Source in general are definitely the future. > > First step will be to use Linux full time as your main system. I recently > started using Debian Etch full time and I have definitely learned so much > more. > There

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Magnus Therning
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 18:10:06 +0300, Yuriy Padlyak wrote: > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content > without loosing any file attributes, etc either :) > > Could you help me please? The Debian reference doc covers this very well: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals

DVD plays but drive always spins full speed...

2007-09-04 Thread Orbit
Hi, New to the list here so I hope this is an appropriate pots. I just installed Etch. To get the dvd player going I also installed: w32codecs, and libdvdcss2. Well dvd's play on totem and gxine ok but the driver spins upreal fast and stays that way. Anything I can do to get the drive to settle

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
Kent West wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you are a student. Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather like it. But I suspect few today would know the etymology. But just doing a google, I find it's not an

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:38, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 09/04/07 13:36, blues wrote: >> [snip] >>> I appreciate all of the advice...It was way more than I ever expected, >>> but then a

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:00, Andrew J. Barr wrote: > On 9/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Proper usage of grammar in your native language is a sign of >> intelligence. We value intelligence. > > We also value common courtesy and humility, or at

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 13:36, blues wrote: [snip] I appreciate all of the advice...It was way more than I ever expected, but then again, that is what makes the linux community so unique. As for my questioning of MS, they do suck... Blatan

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 16:15, Kent West wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you >> are a student. > > Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather > like it. But I suspect few to

Re: package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys -- correction

2007-09-04 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/04/2007 01:35 PM, Steve Newcomb wrote: I did an experiment that makes a liar out of me: I installed lenny and BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE I removed cupsys. Bafflingly, it worked fine. How did cupsys get installed? I doubt that it was installed by default, because I have Etch and no cups

RE: system logs and localtime

2007-09-04 Thread Tony Heal
BTW, this is causing all my logs to report in Eastern time Tony Heal _ From: Tony Heal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:17 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: system logs and localtime I have a remote server at a client site that had /etc/

system logs and localtime

2007-09-04 Thread Tony Heal
I have a remote server at a client site that had /etc/localtime pointing to Eastern instead of Central. I have fixed this. Is there a way for this to take affect without rebooting the server? Tony Heal

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Kent West
Ron Johnson wrote: Blatant disregard of reality is a bright, shiny shibboleth that you are a student. Don't believe I've ever heard the term used that way before. I rather like it. But I suspect few today would know the etymology. But just doing a google, I find it's not an uncommon use of t

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 9/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Proper usage of grammar in your native language is a sign of > intelligence. We value intelligence. We also value common courtesy and humility, or at least we should. Don't be a jerk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

ccsm doesn't start

2007-09-04 Thread xcsnake
hello, I have a problem with the compiz configuration & settings manager : the "ccsm" command gives Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/ccsm", line 43, in ? mainWin = ccm.MainWin(context) File "debian/compizconfig-settings-manager/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/ccm/Window.p

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/04/07 13:36, blues wrote: [snip] > > I appreciate all of the advice...It was way more than I ever expected, > but then again, that is what makes the linux community so unique. As > for my questioning of MS, they do suck... Blatant disregard of

Re: Two Xorg processes?

2007-09-04 Thread Davide Mancusi
Florian Kulzer ha scritto: I have noticed that I have two Xorg processes running Did you already try to log out and restart kdm? Yes. It happens at every boot. I wouldn't bother if I were at least sure that the second Xorg process is not allocating memory separately, but just sharing it with

Re: package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys

2007-09-04 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/04/2007 12:10 PM, Steve Newcomb wrote: I am a long-time Debian user and sysadmin and I'm very frustrated these days. There seems no way out of my problem, other than to re-install the entire OS from scratch and then simply *not* attempt to replace cupsys, which still doesn't work. I have

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Mike Bird
On Tuesday 04 September 2007 10:44, Roland M. Kruggel wrote: > Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak: > > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content > > without loosing any file attributes, etc either :) > > cp -a /src/* /dest That misses dot files in th

Re: System freeze in Lenny

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Matthew Lennig wrote: I'm experiencing a system freeze-up in Lenny. Which package should this be reported against? Some details: System: Abit AB9Pro motherboard CPU: Intel Core Duo E6600 Memory: 4GB The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several hours (e.g., if I ju

Re: Aptitude behaving strangely

2007-09-04 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:31:06 -0400 Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:46:15 -0400 > > Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > >

Re: package l 2.6.21-2-486 #1 Wed Jul 11 03:17:09 UTC 2007 i686 Lenny printing bug

2007-09-04 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 01:14:05 +1000 Rod Lovett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi what am I doing wrong, how on earth can I send ths bug to debian so > they will accept and understand and perhaps even act on it? > 4x rejections with > > Your message didn't have a Package: line at the start (in the >

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread blues
On Sep 4, 6:50 am, "G.W. Haywood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi there, > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 blues wrote: > > > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business > > model of MS. > > Whatever you think about the

Re: Two Xorg processes?

2007-09-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 00:55:36 +0200, Davide Mancusi wrote: > I have noticed that I have two Xorg processes running, one of which is > always stuck at CPU=0.0% but nevertheless shows the same memory usage as > the other process. > > From top: > 3062 root 15 0 132m 59m 7984 S 0.7 5.9

package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys -- correction

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Newcomb
I did an experiment that makes a liar out of me: I installed lenny and BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ELSE I removed cupsys. Bafflingly, it worked fine. So I reviewed what I had done the last time, and, yes, I had installed a few other packages before attempting to remove cupsys. They were: emacs, cvs, s

Re: "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file"

2007-09-04 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 06:34:45 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: > I'm trying to run the latest build of the Eclipse IDE on Debian. When > I try to start the program I receive an error about a shared library: > > "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot > open shared obj

Re: Shut down or leave on?

2007-09-04 Thread David Brodbeck
On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:32 AM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: The most common failure mode of drives is bearing failure. Hmm, weird. I haven't had a bearing failure since I was using 5.25" MFM and RLL drives in the PC-AT days. My hard disk failures have all been head crashes, gradual bit rot, or co

Re: How to bind keys to commands, without requiring login?

2007-09-04 Thread Masatran, R. Deepak
* Masatran, R. Deepak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2007-08-30 > I want to bind some keys to commands. I can do this using my window manager, > but I want it to work even if (1) Nobody is logged in OR if (2) the screen > is locked with a screen-saver. > > I am using Debian 4.0, with GDM, and Sawfish. Some

Re: System freeze in Lenny

2007-09-04 Thread Simon Brandmair
Hi, On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:30:09 +0200 Matthew Lennig wrote: > > The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several > hours (e.g., if I just run top). However, when I start to put any > substantial load on the system it dies. > > I tried changing the motherboard, CPU, and memo

Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread KS
Charles Turner wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:35:11 -0400, KS wrote: > >> I installed Debian on a USB key without GRUB and without touching the >> HDD on my Macbook Pro. You can read the instructions here >> http://ghaint.no-ip.org/~k2/debian/mbp-usb.html if you want to try that >> method. > > H

Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread Charles Turner
On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:35:11 -0400, KS wrote: > I installed Debian on a USB key without GRUB and without touching the > HDD on my Macbook Pro. You can read the instructions here > http://ghaint.no-ip.org/~k2/debian/mbp-usb.html if you want to try that > method. Hi KS- Thanks for this. I haven't

Re: Please introduce a sane way to merge config file differences during package installation

2007-09-04 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 01:11:00PM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Package: debconf > Version: 1.5.14 > Severity: Wishlist > > Everyone will know a message like this: > > Configuration file `/etc/sysctl.conf' ... > > What I would want is something like > > M: merge files interactively > > w

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Roland M. Kruggel
Am Dienstag, 4. September 2007 17:10 schrieb Yuriy Padlyak: > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content > without loosing any file attributes, etc either :) cp -a /src/* /dest -- cu Roland M. Kruggel mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http:www.bbf7.de System: Intel, Debian et

package system broken by aptitude removing cupsys

2007-09-04 Thread Steve Newcomb
I am a long-time Debian user and sysadmin and I'm very frustrated these days. There seems no way out of my problem, other than to re-install the entire OS from scratch and then simply *not* attempt to replace cupsys, which still doesn't work. I have fallen into this "now start all over" trap seve

Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread KS
Charles Turner wrote: > Hi all- > > I have a new Core 2 Duo Mac Mini, and have been trying to install > Debian Lenny on an external FireWire disk via the i386 netinst CD of > 01sept2007. > > I waded through the older install documentation around the web that > seems geared to earlier machines,

System freeze in Lenny

2007-09-04 Thread Matthew Lennig
I'm experiencing a system freeze-up in Lenny. Which package should this be reported against? Some details: System: Abit AB9Pro motherboard CPU: Intel Core Duo E6600 Memory: 4GB The system boots normally. With very low load, it can run for several hours (e.g., if I just run top). However, wh

libpango update broke iceape synaptic and more

2007-09-04 Thread Don
I am using "sid" and yesterday my update/upgrade broke iceape, synaptic, and some others. I've had problems with libpango before, but this one has me stumped. I don't see anyone else having this problem, so I must conclude something is wrong with my installation. Here is some output (sorry f

fdisk + disk identifier

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, When I use fdisk I get back (among others): ... Disk identifier: 0x0843f502 ... Can I get the disk model/type from that? I don't find that identifier in anything that hdparm outputs. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Mirto Silvio Busico
Yuriy Padlyak ha scritto: > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content > without loosing any file attributes, etc either :) > > Could you help me please? Why not use "rsync"? Just my 2 cents Mirto > > Thank you in advance > > Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> Yuriy Padlyak <[EMA

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Yuriy Padlyak<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content > without loosing any file attributes, etc either :) I tend to use: (cd /src/dir && tar cf - *) | (cd /dest/dir && tar xf -) Andy -- To

Re: fetchmail downloads, mutt does not display

2007-09-04 Thread Wayne Topa
Thomas H. George([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > I had this problem with an earlier version of exim4 and was advised to > change the line > >smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = * > > to > >smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 0 > > in the file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template.

Re: Aptitude behaving strangely

2007-09-04 Thread Wayne Topa
Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:46:15 -0400 > Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > Hi, > > > > > > My aptitude (uptodate Sid) has been behaving rather strangely > > > lately. When doin

Re: Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello, you may send to the mactel list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] hth, Jerome Charles Turner wrote: Hi all- I have a new Core 2 Duo Mac Mini, and have been trying to install Debian Lenny on an external FireWire disk via the i386 netinst CD of 01sept2007. I waded through the older install documen

package l 2.6.21-2-486 #1 Wed Jul 11 03:17:09 UTC 2007 i686 Lenny printing bug

2007-09-04 Thread Rod Lovett
Hi what am I doing wrong, how on earth can I send ths bug to debian so they will accept and understand and perhaps even act on it? 4x rejections with Your message didn't have a Package: line at the start (in the pseudo-header following the real mail header), or didn't have a pseudo-header at all

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Yuriy Padlyak
ok, but I don't know how to move ext3 file system or it's content without loosing any file attributes, etc either :) Could you help me please? Thank you in advance Tyler MacDonald wrote: Yuriy Padlyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi guys, Wondering how to move Logical volume to other Volume G

Re: Fileserver Issues

2007-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nathan O <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.09.02.0807 +0200]: > booted back into Debian, created a partition on the device and (after > some mdadm hiccups) managed to re-add the old drive to the array. Care to elaborate about those hiccups? Anyway, from the information you provide, all I can

Re: lvm mirror or mdadm mirror or raid 5

2007-09-04 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.09.02.0044 +0200]: > not sure why 3 way though, the spare space on the 3rd drive if > i go 2 way i use for tmp or swap or ... I'd say even tmp or swap need to be redundant since there is software out there which will fail if the /tmp filesystem fail

Re: LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Yuriy Padlyak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys, > > Wondering how to move Logical volume to other Volume Group. Can't find any > LVM command for this purpose You'd create a new logical volume in the other volume group, copy the data over manually, and delete the old logical volume. Cheer

LVM

2007-09-04 Thread Yuriy Padlyak
Hi guys, Wondering how to move Logical volume to other Volume Group. Can't find any LVM command for this purpose -- Best regards, Yuriy Padlyak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-04 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 02:07:13PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: > > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this

Re: [OT] smart reporting trouble

2007-09-04 Thread André Berger
* Matus UHLAR - fantomas (2007-09-01): > On 17.07.07 10:26, André Berger wrote: > > Back from vacation, I found messages from smartd (sarge; 2.6.21.5) in > > root's mailbox: > > > > SMART error (CurrentPendingSector) detected > > The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon: >

snmpd show incorrect bandwidth

2007-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i just installed debian etch r1 on P4 box with snmpd configured on v1/v2c community access , i use prtg to read bandwidth traffic on firewall with 2 eth interfaces on 512kbits connection , the traffic in kbits/s is incorrectly measured with high numbers starting from 1500 and shutting down directl

Re: A sane way to merge config file differences during package installation?

2007-09-04 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:01:46 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/02/07 04:55, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > Everyone will know a message like this: > > > > Configuration file `/etc/sysctl.conf' > > ==> Modified (by you or by a s

"libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file"

2007-09-04 Thread Redefined Horizons
I'm trying to run the latest build of the Eclipse IDE on Debian. When I try to start the program I receive an error about a shared library: "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" I've never had trouble running Eclipse

Re: Wired fontconfig behavior

2007-09-04 Thread Wang Xu
Additional info: the following will happen only under zh_CN locale, and when I change locale to en_US, it will in a correct sequence without requiring a ``fc-cache'' . How is the font matching/selection affected by locales? Thank you! 2007/9/4, Wang Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi list, > > I set

Grub issues on Mac Mini?

2007-09-04 Thread Charles Turner
Hi all- I have a new Core 2 Duo Mac Mini, and have been trying to install Debian Lenny on an external FireWire disk via the i386 netinst CD of 01sept2007. I waded through the older install documentation around the web that seems geared to earlier machines, have what I think is a satisfactory

Re: browser confusions

2007-09-04 Thread Bhasker C V
Thanks all, I downloaded iceape-browser_1.0.10~pre070720-0etch3_i386.deb and installed it manually ( i did not want to upgrade whole of my system). Now iceape shows 1.0.9 version. On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 06:28 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 09/04/2007 04:36 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Tue, 04

fetchmail downloads, mutt does not display

2007-09-04 Thread Thomas H. George
I had this problem with an earlier version of exim4 and was advised to change the line smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = * to smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 0 in the file /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template. There is no longer such a line in exim4.conf.template. Is there a new sol

Re: oo 2.2 in lenny?

2007-09-04 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 07:26 -0500, Sam Leon wrote: > > Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I am running lenny, and I would like to install openoffice.org-2.2. The > > version in lenny is 2.0. In my etch machines, I used the oo-2.2 from > > backports.org. How can I install openoffice.org-2.2

Re: nvidia-glx redux...

2007-09-04 Thread Sam Leon
ZephyrQ wrote: ZephyrQ wrote: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Sep 03, 2007 at 09:56:36AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: I've edited the xorg.conf file back and forth several times (usually manually changing 'nv' to 'nvidia' and back again when glx couldn't load) and checked the previous thread fo

Re: Extending ext3 root-fs

2007-09-04 Thread Sam Leon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello! I am running Debian 4.0 64bit on an Opteron. My disks are two RAID5 on a IPC VOrtex controller (gdth). My / is becoming a bit to small (Mostly stuff in /lib), so i extended it with lvextend -L +200M /dev/Debian/root Now, to resize the fs i intend to boot

Re: oo 2.2 in lenny?

2007-09-04 Thread Sam Leon
Marcelo Chiapparini wrote: Hi! I am running lenny, and I would like to install openoffice.org-2.2. The version in lenny is 2.0. In my etch machines, I used the oo-2.2 from backports.org. How can I install openoffice.org-2.2 in lenny? Thanks in advance Marcelo oo2.2 is getting transfered

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-04 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone > could point me to? > > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > pa

Re: Thinking about devoting a serious part of my life to linux...

2007-09-04 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 blues wrote: > I would really love to become a good sys admin; linux is very > interesting to me as a popular alternative to the crap business > model of MS. Whatever you think about the way it does things, Microsoft is one of the most successful companies that t

Re: hard disk crash revisiited

2007-09-04 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
steef wrote: dear florian, pinneped and others, thanks to your help (and some further study of myself) did I succeed this afternoon in recovering 50GB of data from a completely crashed hd (see a former thread). dd_rescue and fsck did the job in this case. thanks again for all your help for

Re: browser confusions

2007-09-04 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/04/2007 04:36 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:49:47 -0500 "Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Iceweasel is up to date. A more recent iceweasel is available from security.debian.org: Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Where and how do I install a TTF font?

2007-09-04 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/02/2007 08:24 PM, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Hi! On 9/2/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately, evince doesn't show the barcodes on my system. In fact, none of evince, xpdf, gpdf, and kpdf can see the barcodes. To have Evince displaying the barcode I did this: Created

Re: Acceptable CPU temperature range of idle computer?

2007-09-04 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Felix Karpfen wrote: > Since upgrading from Sarge to Etch, my CPU temperature appears to be > running 5-10 deg.C higher; immediately after booting it is a healthy 30 > deg.C and it creeps up to 45-50 deg.C within an hour. On the idle (?) > computer there are some 120 processes running and the syst

how to use version and debian revison

2007-09-04 Thread Jabka Atu
hello ,.. im trieng to understand the way to use version and debian revison (package smser). the orignal softwere wasn't made specialy for debian and it's version is 2. as i understand we debian revisions when only the package is changed and not the actual software. as stated in http://www.

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