Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
urrent situation, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Also, the snippet about Debian on this weeks distrowatch weekly http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20070402 mentions that we run a very old glibc to keep compatibilty with so many architectures. I understand that, but doesn't tha

Re: Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

2007-04-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, unfortunatelly, no. Firstly, ARCH=xen is deprecated and it's not used for ages anymore. And they use a custom package linux-patch-xen which is not a part of etch. I want to build it in the etch way. There is linux-support-2.6.18 package in etch which contains tools to build .configs for a

Re: Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

2007-04-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kushal Kumaran пишет: Maybe this will help then: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/320. They use the kernel-package system to build a xen kernel. I suppose the only difference from a "regular" kernel build is the different architecture. Yep, thanks ! Gonna read and try Pleas

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> I know why. The default mail directory and your mail directory are not >> the same. The easy fix is to put your mail somewhere else (like >> /home/raju/mail then adjust the profile.ini file to not

Re: Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

2007-04-02 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On 4/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kushal Kumaran, you seem misunderstood me. I do know how to use make-kpkg and related stuff. And I do know that xen is available via packages. What I need is to install xen (dom0) from packages, but use it with my own domU kernel with my ow

Debian Documentation and Specific HOWTOS

2007-04-02 Thread Julian De Marchi
Hi All, I am writing to let you all know that I have setup a wiki which i would like to request all of the experienced mailers on this list to write some howtos for the ETCH release and of course SARGE. The address is http://www.jdcomputers.com.au/wiki My main purpose behind this wiki was to

Re: Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

2007-04-02 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On 4/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone Perhaps, this is not the best place to ask such question but i'll try to start here. I need to build my own xen domU kernel with my own patches but to be honest I can't get how to compile xen kernels as debian packages in Etc

Re: new kernel problem

2007-04-02 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On 4/3/07, Daniel Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've compiled a new kernel, same version as the old one, and installed it using make-kpackage. When I try to boot it, however, it says it can't mount my filesystem, and it freezes. I am booting from reiserfs. I thought it might need an initrd,

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread CaT
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 02:10:08PM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and > software will not get into it any more. > > So what is a better choice now, to stick to Etch or to switch to the > next testing? I am not sure which is more import

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wei Chen escribió: > Hi, > > I am a desktop user that is currently using Etch. > > You know that Etch is about to release. This means that new features and > software will not get into it any more. > > So what is a better choice now, to stick to Etc

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread John L Fjellstad
Andrew Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd certainly like to see the kernel go GPLv3...granted parts of the > kernel could go anyway without Linus' explicit blessing, but after all > the kernel is a flagship free software project... Not if GPLv3 is incompatible with GPLv2. Linus doesn't have

Etch: how to make own xen domU kernel ?

2007-04-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello everyone Perhaps, this is not the best place to ask such question but i'll try to start here. I need to build my own xen domU kernel with my own patches but to be honest I can't get how to compile xen kernels as debian packages in Etch. Could anyone point to me to a manual or describe he

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. Doug writes: > Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer > so I don't really understand. You've put your finger on a major defect. > If you're appalled, presumably you 'get it'. This is not the right foru

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Mark Grieveson
> > So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. > > Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous > > nor too old. > > What do you think about adding a new release type maybe called > "current"? I think we already have that middle ground, with Debian backports.

Re: Postfix-Sender and recipient restriction problem

2007-04-02 Thread Mihira Fernando
Semih Gokalp wrote: > Hi i have a problem about sender and recipient restriction. > > I am using postfix version 2.1.5.9 I do recommend an upgrade to a newer version. > > mail.cf : > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated > check_relay_domains

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread John Hasler
Andrew writes: > Not necessarily an answer to your question, but I read that Linus > Torvalds is becoming a bit more open to the GPLv3 with some of the latest > iterations we've seen. Considering the number of authors who would have to be either convinced to convert or be written out, conversion o

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:33:24PM -0400, Andrew Barr wrote: > I'd certainly like to see the kernel go GPLv3...granted parts of the > kernel could go anyway without Linus' explicit blessing, but after all > the kernel is a flagship free software project... > What do you see v3 doing for the ker

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:59:23PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > I'd like to know what the more knowledgeable people here would have to > > say about the GPLv3... > > It's appalling, but there is nothing to be done. Would you elaborate? It left me concerned but I'm not a language lawyer so I d

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread John Hasler
> I'm not one to say if Debian will convert, but I'm pretty sure it be > mostly beneficial if they do. "Debian" can't "convert". The copyrights in most packages are owned by the upstream authors. The copyrights in native packages such as Pppconfig are owned by the individual DDs who wrote them.

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 10:26:01PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I just saw the headline (and read the article) on the draft for GPL v3 > that was released recently on http://www.sysadminmag.com. > > Since much of debian is covered under v2 bu

Re: GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew Barr
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 22:26 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I just saw the headline (and read the article) on the draft for GPL v3 > that was released recently on http://www.sysadminmag.com. > > Since much of debian is covered under v2 but has the clause "or any > later version", what implica

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 01:20 +0100, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400 > Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because > of > > > bloat and Evo's tie

GPL v3?

2007-04-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I just saw the headline (and read the article) on the draft for GPL v3 that was released recently on http://www.sysadminmag.com. Since much of debian is covered under v2 but has the clause "or any later version", what implications does this have for debian? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

new kernel problem

2007-04-02 Thread Daniel Smith
I've compiled a new kernel, same version as the old one, and installed it using make-kpackage. When I try to boot it, however, it says it can't mount my filesystem, and it freezes. I am booting from reiserfs. I thought it might need an initrd, so I pointed it at my old initrd. It told me it co

Re: test message

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 20:20, S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) wrote: > hi all, >I join this list more then 3 days ago, still now not getting any mail. > That's why testing. > Please response this mail (please use cc to me) It arrived. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson

Re: GPG and Signing

2007-04-02 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > An ATM machine's threshold of "trust in identity" is account number and > PIN. That is authentication, not identification. > Meat sack tellers (who don't recognize you) want to verify your signature > with a Government Issued ID Card. A mistake. The teller should authentic

Re: Noobe XDM questions

2007-04-02 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:25:42PM -0700, Terrence Branscombe wrote: > Kinda new to Debian, and Linux, so forgive me if this has been covered > to death already, but the docs suggest that users can customize an X > session simply by placing the '.xse

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:20:04PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied > their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty > obvious that the "QCs don't apply" provision was the operational part > of this

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:53:08PM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ...a real part of Sissy Boy George's "Text of order signed by President > Bush on Feb. 7, 2002, outlining treatment of al-Qaida and Taliban > detainees"? And if so, Why Is It Not A War Crime? > You apparently missed the part abo

Noobe XDM questions

2007-04-02 Thread Terrence Branscombe
Kinda new to Debian, and Linux, so forgive me if this has been covered to death already, but the docs suggest that users can customize an X session simply by placing the '.xsession' file into their home directory. This is not working for me; adding an .xsession file to my home directory simply

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-04-02 Thread zfh
--- Johannes Wiedersich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 10:43:30PM -0400, Jim > Hyslop wrote: > >> If I had immediately followed with some > outrageous claim that Windows is > >> better and has fewer security holes because > , > >> *THEN* you cou

test message

2007-04-02 Thread S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)
hi all, I join this list more then 3 days ago, still now not getting any mail. That's why testing. Please response this mail (please use cc to me) -- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) Home page: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.tk Yahoo!! ID: lavluda MSN ID: lavluda Skype : lavluda

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 19:20, Ananda Samaddar wrote: [snip] > Thought I'd just stick my oar in and recommend Sylpheed as a Gtk > based mail client it's extremely fast and configurable and has > all the functionality you'll probably need (except html mail). > It s

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words - gradually going OT :)

2007-04-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 06:35:50AM -0400, Max Hyre wrote: > Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > My first words were Cum-By-Ya > >Well, you just got blocked by millions of spam filters right there. > :-) I've always sung ``coom-by-ya''. > >And then again---my spell checker objected to `coom';

Postfix-Sender and recipient restriction problem

2007-04-02 Thread Semih Gokalp
Hi i have a problem about sender and recipient restriction. I am using postfix version 2.1.5.9 mail.cf: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated check_relay_domains reject_unauth_destination check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/recipient_access recipient_access file contains

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff D
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:17:05AM -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a regular user fail. I was able to alter permissions to allow a regular user to ope

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 14:39:05 -0400 Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of > > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > > I'm thinking of rein

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 02:10:31AM +0800, Wei Chen wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that > > Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. > Oh, didn't know that. > > > > Another important question: are you a "user" who just

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Wayne Topa
Sven Arvidsson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > That is correct for the ipw2100 I recently installed. I assume it > > would be the same for the 2200 as well. > > There seems to be binary packages available for both of these, s

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Paul E Condon wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:06:42PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:07 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, p

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:02:27 -0500 "Bruffey, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- > > I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a > > Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have > > located and t

Re: Permissions Question

2007-04-02 Thread Thomas H. George
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:17:05AM -0700, Jeff D wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Thomas H. George wrote: > > >After netinst of etch attempts to start iceape and openoffice as a regular > >user fail. I was able to alter permissions to allow a regular user to > >open a console window. If, in the co

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:50:55 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/29/07 22:28, dave wrote: >> on Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:22:59PM -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> >>> Of course, wounding the enemy is nearly *always* more des

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 00:45 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > There have been a lot of talk and suggestions, for example, Joey Hess > described Constantly Usable Testing, it sounds a bit like your > suggestion. > http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debian/cut.html > > Also, there seems to be some interest

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread Paul E Condon
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 03:06:42PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:07 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server > > so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from > > it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to s

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread cga2000
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 07:00:06AM EDT, Max Hyre wrote: > cga2000 wrote: > > About 20 miles East of the city. > >Well, more like zero (Queens and Brooklyn are part of both the city > and the Island, unless you're talking like the locals, to whom The City > is Manhattan, and the rest is referre

Re: Lost menu

2007-04-02 Thread Bernard
Yes, Sven, "Visible" is ticked for the Crossover menu. But still, not visible! On 4/2/07, Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:02 -0700, Jeff D wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Bernard Fay wrote: > > A while ago, I installed CrossOver from Codeweavers which appeared i

About the Calendar Extension...

2007-04-02 Thread Matthew K Poer
Where does the iceape-calendar come from? I know that Howard Chu is sort-of maintaining the old CalExt for Mozilla with Sunbird/Lightning patches. Is this the source? Or is it from the original CalExt? Or is it derived from Lightning? I would like to know, primarily, because Howard Chu's version i

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 16:53, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > Wei Chen wrote: >> So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. >> Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous >> nor too old. > > What do you think about adding a new re

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Owen Heisler
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:53 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > Wei Chen wrote: > > So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. > > Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous > > nor too old. > > What do you think about adding a new release type maybe called > "c

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:53 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > > So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. > > Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous > > nor too old. > > What do you think about adding a new release type maybe called > "current"? Then our relea

Re: dreamweaver-esque webpage design program?

2007-04-02 Thread Owen Heisler
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 20:06 +, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: > Alexander J?ger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> i'll teach you to turn away. escribi?: > >> > >>> hi. what's your favorite don't-have-to-think-about-it webpage > >>> design program for debian? i'm thinking dreamweaver

Re: Lost menu

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff D
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:02 -0700, Jeff D wrote: On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Bernard Fay wrote: A while ago, I installed CrossOver from Codeweavers which appeared in my menu Applications of Gnome. Since an updated those menu for CrossOver are gone. In Alacar

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 23:45 +0200, Mitja Podreka wrote: > The problem with forums is that you have to deal with them using a > browser. All the work on sorting and following the debates is on you. > But with mailing list you use a mail agent like Icedove for example, > which does all the sorting

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:53 -0700, Glen Pfeiffer wrote: > Wei Chen wrote: > > So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. > > Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous > > nor too old. > > What do you think about adding a new release type maybe called > "c

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Mitja Podreka
Wei Chen wrote: So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous nor too old. After listening to the suggestions on the list, I have made my decision that I shall first stick with Etch for a while and then upgrade to Testi

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
Wei Chen wrote: > So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. > Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous > nor too old. What do you think about adding a new release type maybe called "current"? Then our release structure would look like this:

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 16:26, Steve Lamb wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied >> their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty >> obvious that the "QCs don't apply" pro

Re: Lost menu

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:02 -0700, Jeff D wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Bernard Fay wrote: > > A while ago, I installed CrossOver from Codeweavers which appeared in my > > menu Applications of Gnome. Since an updated those menu for CrossOver are > > gone. In Alacarte Menu Editor, I can see those m

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Joe Hart wrote: > I know why. The default mail directory and your mail directory are not > the same. The easy fix is to put your mail somewhere else (like > /home/raju/mail then adjust the profile.ini file to not use a relative > path and to use specifically that directory. > This is not the p

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-02 Thread Mitja Podreka
Greg Folkert wrote: This is a fine example of Forums not working. It is a very nice try, and has a lot of merit, but it is another place where the signal to noise ratio is pretty ugly at best. Regardless as to how bad it is here, it really does have what people need when they need it. I am sor

Re: Lost menu

2007-04-02 Thread Jeff D
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Bernard Fay wrote: Hi, A while ago, I installed CrossOver from Codeweavers which appeared in my menu Applications of Gnome. Since an updated those menu for CrossOver are gone. In Alacarte Menu Editor, I can see those menu as visible but I don't actually see them. What mig

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 23:38 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > That is correct for the ipw2100 I recently installed. I assume it > > would be the same for the 2200 as well. > > There seems to be binary packages available for both of these, so w

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 16:31 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > That is correct for the ipw2100 I recently installed. I assume it > would be the same for the 2200 as well. There seems to be binary packages available for both of these, so why not use them, or am I missing something? -- Cheers, Sven Arvid

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Since some of the al-Qaeda and taliban prisoner's were in fact denied > their GC protections, by being tortured, mistreated, etc., it's pretty > obvious that the "QCs don't apply" provision was the operational part > of this order, and not "taken out of context quite badl

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Wayne Topa
Greg Folkert([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: > > I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a > > Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have > > located and tried to follow a coupl

Lost menu

2007-04-02 Thread Bernard Fay
Hi, A while ago, I installed CrossOver from Codeweavers which appeared in my menu Applications of Gnome. Since an updated those menu for CrossOver are gone. In Alacarte Menu Editor, I can see those menu as visible but I don't actually see them. What might be wrong? Thanks -- Bernard It is

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Max Hyre
Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > chroot = tchroot (Ch as in Chekhov + root - there's an unavoidable very > short middle e or a sound as you say it because you can't easily go from > one syllable to the other) It's called schwa, and represented by a lowercase `e' rotated 180 degrees about the axis

Re: Tool to monitor system downtimes?

2007-04-02 Thread anoop aryal
On Thursday 29 March 2007 07:50, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/29/07 02:52, Joerg Lange wrote: > > On 3/28/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Parse this single line file: /proc/loadavg. > > > > Thats what I already do in the perl program I wrote, in order to get > > the latest load (first

Re: dreamweaver-esque webpage design program?

2007-04-02 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Alexander J?ger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i'll teach you to turn away. escribi?: >> >>> hi. what's your favorite don't-have-to-think-about-it webpage >>> design program for debian? i'm thinking dreamweaver-esque. AJg> Jose Luis Rivas Contreras schrieb: >> NVU and Quanta AJg> Zend Studi

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:58:10PM -0700, Dusty Wilson wrote: > I'm re-gathering what everyone has said so far. Here's my list so > far. But there are still a couple missing (chmod/chown) and others > I'm not 100% sure of (lilo, passwd, chroot). > chroot = tchroot (Ch as in Chekhov + root - ther

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-04-02 Thread judd
On 2 Apr, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 08:51:09AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> No, actually the executive order was written to obfuscate the >> issue. It was pretty widely reported in the press that this order, >> and the memos that it references were specific

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dusty Wilson wrote: > I'm re-gathering what everyone has said so far. Here's my list so > far. But there are still a couple missing (chmod/chown) and others > I'm not 100% sure of (lilo, passwd, chroot). > I'll give it a shot. You haven't heard fro

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Max Hyre
For those interested, a summary... How I counted: single opinion rendered +1 multiple pronunciations offered or commended by single poster+1 for each Notes: Intent of this count is to be descriptive (as she is spoken) rather than prescriptive (I say

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: > >> After this long and irrelevant story, do you have your mail back or do >> we need to troubleshoot it further? >> >> Joe >> > > Interesting experience. Thanks for sharing it. > > However, I still ha

Re: Help! Mtrr don't work...

2007-04-02 Thread Marco
[...] #cat /proc/mtrr reg00: base=0x ( 0MB), size=2048MB: write-back, count=1 *reg01: base=0x7ff0 (2047MB), size= 1MB: uncachable, count=1 * Is the reg01 correct or not? **#lspci -v 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce Go 7400 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Dusty Wilson
I'm re-gathering what everyone has said so far. Here's my list so far. But there are still a couple missing (chmod/chown) and others I'm not 100% sure of (lilo, passwd, chroot). named = name-dee pxe = pixie Debian = deb-ee-un bind = bynd (like find or whined, not like bindy or windy) lilo = lie

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: > I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a > Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have > located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the > wireless without success. Is

Re: Debian User List

2007-04-02 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] >> I usually just google things and end up finding the debian list :) > > Amazing that much of the advice here is: GIYF (STFW) or RTFM > > And, it also brings you back. > > I guess, maybe I should just keep things "strictl

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew Barr
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:35 -0400, Andrew Barr wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: > > --Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- > > > > I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a > > > > Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet con

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew Barr
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 14:02 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: > --Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- > > I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a > > Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have > > located and tried to follow a coupl

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Raquel
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 02:51:17 +0800 Wei Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I'd say that maybe Stable is really not for Desktop use. > Testing is the best choice because it is neither too dangerous nor > too old. > > After listening to the suggestions on the list, I have made my > decision that I

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:07 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server > so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from > it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some > instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? Paul, there a

Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Bruffey, Mark
--Repost due to user error in first post--sorry all.-- I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the wireless without success. Is it po

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 04/02/07 13:10, Wei Chen wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that >>> Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. >> Oh, didn't know that. > > Yup. > >

Re: Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:22 -0500, Bruffey, Mark wrote: > I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a > Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have > located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the > wireless without success. Is

Re: OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread michael
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 12:07:10 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote > I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server > so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from > it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some > instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? > Try here: ht

Re: Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 13:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > How much memory does Evo use? I switched from Evo to ID because of > bloat and Evo's ties to GNOME, but ID has RES 81m and SHR 23m. So > I'm thinking of reinstalling Evo. > Using XFce as my environment, while replying to your message:

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Hasler wrote: > Wei Chen writes: >> Thanks. But I would rather have a system that just works. The reason why >> I am worrying about Stable is partially because I guess I may want to use >> some new features that are not available in Stable and ins

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 13:10, Wei Chen wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that >> Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. > Oh, didn't know that. Yup. http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-

Get Dell D810 to See Intel Pro Wireless 2200BG -- Etch

2007-04-02 Thread Bruffey, Mark
I need instructions to get an Intel Pro Wireless set up in Etch on a Dell D810. System sees wired ethernet connection just fine. I have located and tried to follow a couple of installation routines for the wireless without success. Is it possible to point me to a step-by-step, comprehensive, comman

Evo vs. Icedove (was Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux)

2007-04-02 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/07 12:12, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 12:43 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 12:36:43PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: >>> On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 09:02 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 200

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > It's not officially supported in Stable because the policy is that > Stable only gets security updates, not feature updates. Oh, didn't know that. > > Another important question: are you a "user" who just wants to get > his work

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-04-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:12:34 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:49:13PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 03/30/07 11:10, dave wrote: >> > on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 08:50:55AM -0500 Ron Johnson wrote: >> > >> >> So you shoot the possibly-wounded Iraqi?

OT Mac OS X and Etch NFS question

2007-04-02 Thread Paul E Condon
I want to set up Mac running OS X v 10.4 as a NFS server so that I can have one of my Debian boxes read files from it on an NFS mount. Can anyone, please point me to some instructions on setting up OS X as an NFS server? TIA -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, emai

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > > http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/debian_choosing_distribution.html > aims to answer these kind of questions. > Just had a look at the article. I mainly learned from it that for security, servers and newbies,

Re: Pronunciation of common Linux-related words

2007-04-02 Thread Dave Ewart
On Monday, 02.04.2007 at 10:27 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> The original poster wanted to know the way most people said common > >>> Unix/Linux words. > >>> > >>> PostgreSQL *is* pronounced "post-gress-ceu-ell" as you keep > >>> insisting (and with which I am *NOT* disagreeing): however, my > >

Re: migrating old mail from thunderbird to icedove

2007-04-02 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
KS wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: >> Kushal Kumaran wrote: >> >>> You haven't mentioned what error message, if any, you are getting. >>> http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/profile has info on backing >>> up and restoring thunderbird profiles. Maybe something there might >>> help.

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread John Hasler
Wei Chen writes: > Thanks. But I would rather have a system that just works. The reason why > I am worrying about Stable is partially because I guess I may want to use > some new features that are not available in Stable and installing them > from source code may cause bigger trouble...

Re: Desktop user: Etch or the next testing?

2007-04-02 Thread Wei Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gustavo Franco wrote: > Hi Wei, > > Are you using GNOME, KDE or Xfce ? Hi, my main account runs KDE because it seems that the interface is better. Sometimes I run in another account in GNOME, for example when I think a program should be run in a env

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