Re: crontab

2003-11-04 Thread Anthony Le Mansec
On 2003-11-05, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am trying to add apt-get update, and apt-get -qqy dist-update to my crontab > to run daily att 6 am and have it send its output to a text file. > my crontab entries look like: > 0 6 * * * root apt-get update > 1 6 * * * root apt-get

Re: fsck seg. fault Please Help! -- (OK so far!)

2003-11-04 Thread Matt
Werner Scharinger wrote: Am Montag, 3. November 2003 09:00 schrieb Matt: Bruce Sass wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, matt wrote: hi, the other day my woody machine just kinda stopped working...upon a reboot i learned via beep-codes that the ram had failed. i broke out the shop-vac and c

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread Mark Healey
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 10:52:38 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >[Snipping most] > >On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 06:45 GMT, Mark Healey penned: >> >> I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it >> would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the >> hardware I have

inetutils-tools vs. net-tools for ifconfig

2003-11-04 Thread Tom Ballard
I tried to read the docs to see how the ifconfig in inetutils-tools is different from the one in net-tools, but saw nothing. Is it okay to have both? Should I pick one or the other? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECT

python2.2 segfault in socket.getfqdn(), no debugging symbols

2003-11-04 Thread Vineet Kumar
I've got it narrowed down to this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ python2.2 Python 2.2.1 (#1, Sep 7 2002, 14:34:30) [GCC 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)] on linux2 Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. >>> import socket >>> socket.getfqdn() Segmentation fault So I

Unidentified subject!

2003-11-04 Thread Loren M Lang
While installing an updated fvwm2 from source, I decided to include gnome support using apt-get to install libgnome-dev and I got the following response: debian:/home/sttng359/fvwm/fvwm-2.4.17# apt-get install libgnome-dev Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The followin

crontab

2003-11-04 Thread jonchatfield
I am trying to add apt-get update, and apt-get -qqy dist-update to my crontab to run daily att 6 am and have it send its output to a text file. my crontab entries look like: 0 6 * * * root apt-get update 1 6 * * * root apt-get -y dist-upgrade | less >> ~/distuplog.txt It doesnt seem to work. An

Re: X that supports rotation?

2003-11-04 Thread Kent West
stan wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:05:15PM -0600, Kent West wrote: stan wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:32:30AM -0600, Kent West wrote: stan wrote: Is there a version of X available for Debian that supports rotating my LCD screen into portrait mode? #Op

Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??

2003-11-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:52:44PM -0800, Mike Fedyk said > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:48:14PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Hmm, detect doesn't seem to work fully on 2.6 kernels, but maybe it's > > Err, I mean the "discover" package... Yah, 2.6 has differently named modules to 2.4, so it'll have

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Kent West
Hoyt Bailey wrote: - Original Message - From: "Roberto Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 08:41 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. I do not dissagree on any point. However it should be my choice. Should I do something so stup

hotplug problem

2003-11-04 Thread Paul William
Hi I cant get hotplug to start. I am using a debian kernel. Hot plug says it "can't synthesize input events - /proc/bus/input/devices missing" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/paulb# cat /var/log/boot | grep hotplug Wed Nov 5 16:20:19 2003: Starting hotplug subsystem: input** can't synthesize input even

hotplug problem

2003-11-04 Thread Paul William
Hi I cant get hotplug to start. I am using a debian kernel. Hot plug says it "can't synthesize input events - /proc/bus/input/devices missing" [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/paulb# cat /var/log/boot | grep hotplug Wed Nov 5 16:20:19 2003: Starting hotplug subsystem: input** can't synthesize input even

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Marc Wilson
Ok, maybe I'm REALLY missing the signal in all the noise, but whyinhell are people having a problem with this? If an application needs kernel headers, whyinhell isn't it USING them? That, after all, is why you put a kernel source tree in place on your system. Any number of packages depend on havi

Re: X that supports rotation?

2003-11-04 Thread stan
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:05:15PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > stan wrote: > >On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:32:30AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > > >>stan wrote: > >> > >>>Is there a version of X available for Debian that supports rotating my > >>>LCD > >>>screen into portrait mode? > >>> > >> > >>It dep

Re: apt-get question

2003-11-04 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:40:02PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > You've got to be kidding me. Hm, let's base the stability of our system on > whether or not someone bothered to report a bug? With no way to go back? > Right... You mean let's NOT, as potentially useful input, evaluate whether or not a

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-04 Thread Laurence J. Lane
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:04:58PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > So my first question is, what is debian's equivalent to "clock". All > it did, with the -w option, was to set the hardware clock from the > system clock. I presume the former is GMT, and so there is a time > offset invoved. hwclock -

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:04:58PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > I'm a RedHat refugee, and sometimes I can just transfer things to > debian, and sometimes not. > > I have an executable script, "time.rc" which has: > > #! /bin/bash > rdate -s time-b.nist.gov > clock -w > > I installed rda

Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:48:14PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > Hmm, detect doesn't seem to work fully on 2.6 kernels, but maybe it's Err, I mean the "discover" package... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??

2003-11-04 Thread Mike Fedyk
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:01:49PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > Configure X by hand? Why? The Debian X packages have a very > sophisticated configuration system which walks you through the > configuration. With a little googling, you'll even find that installing > "hotplug", "mdetect" and "read-edid

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 04:24:21AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > [Please wrap your lines! It makes it much easier to read, and thus more > likely that you'll get a response. Anywhere between 70 and 80 is > acceptable; 72 seems to be a nice value.] > > On

Re: setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-04 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Haines Brown wrote: I'm a RedHat refugee, and sometimes I can just transfer things to debian, and sometimes not. I have an executable script, "time.rc" which has: #! /bin/bash rdate -s time-b.nist.gov clock -w I installed rdate, and that seems to work fine to set the system clock (or at l

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 01:42:34AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2003-11-04 15:42:40 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I > > > wouldn't have lost mail. > > >

Re: kdebase broken in sarge, what to do?

2003-11-04 Thread Uwe Dippel
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 13:03:52 -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Try going to Sid. I am on Sid and have exactly the same issue as Motyle. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-04 Thread Jacob S.
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:42:34 +0100 Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2003-11-04 15:42:40 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > If you're stupid enough to type 'rm -rf' in your root directory, it's > your problem. *You* are t

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:08:11AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > Ok for us stupid newbies. Why is it dangerous and stupid. RH and Caldera > support an item in their login screen called I believe "Consol" which dumps > you back to prior to startx and I

Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 05:46:47PM +, Pigeon wrote: > DynDNS.org accounts are free? I didn't realise that - I thought there > was an annual fee (albeit sufficiently minimal that remembering to pay > it would be more of a problem than finding the mo

setting hardware clock from NIST

2003-11-04 Thread Haines Brown
I'm a RedHat refugee, and sometimes I can just transfer things to debian, and sometimes not. I have an executable script, "time.rc" which has: #! /bin/bash rdate -s time-b.nist.gov clock -w I installed rdate, and that seems to work fine to set the system clock (or at least the system clo

Re: speaker and bios [WAS: 2 questions: network card and internal speaker volume]

2003-11-04 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 07:06:46PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > Hi! > I have 2 questions. First, how do I turn up the volume of the internal > speaker? Haven't solved this one, but... > > My second question is a little more complicated. I just put in a new > motherboard, and everything is work

Re: Any Debian package to manage Apache users ?

2003-11-04 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003, Bob Alexander wrote: > Is there some GUI to define, revoke, update passwords for Apache(2) > users ??? > > Tried Apache Webmin but it does not and I would like to avoid using the > htpasswd command line for this (many users and quite dynamic). > webmin 1.120 includes an htacc

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 at 00:19 GMT, Hoyt Bailey penned: > > - Original Message - From: "Roberto Sanchez" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 08:41 > Subject: Re: GUI login screen. > > I do not dissagree on any point. However it sho

using exim directly instead of smarthost

2003-11-04 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Hi, i have configured exim 4 and it runs fine. I use the smarthost option and thus send mails via my ISP. I was wondering if i could do the same by NOT using the smarthost option and use my exim4 to do this? Also, i've have always wondered how one sets up a "real" mail server: if you had a domain

Re: kdebase broken in sarge, what to do?

2003-11-04 Thread Motyle
Paul Scott wrote: > Motyle wrote: > >Is there any easy way to force kdebase and depending packages installation > >ignoring libsensors-1debian1 problem at the moment? > > Go to http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianKDE to read more and to D/L a deb > for libsensors-1debian1. OK, I have found it, and at

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:51:45PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > Joe Rhett wrote: > > > If testing is what is supposed to be the next release, then it seems > > > pointless to even bother. "Testing" still has Mozilla 1.0. That's what, > > > 2 years old? > > > > We're working o

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2003-11-04 15:42:40 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I > > wouldn't have lost mail. > > And if I hadn't typed 'rm -rf' in my root directory, I wouldn't have > lost

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:48:59AM +0800, csj wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:04 +, > Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:47:17AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > Maybe it's time to file a serious bug report against > > > linux-kernel-headers. IMHO there should at least be two header >

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:00:32PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:37:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > That hierarchy [/usr/include/{linux,asm}] is chiefly for glibc's > > internal use; applications were never supposed to use it directly. > > If these are supposed t

Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??

2003-11-04 Thread Chema
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 21:01:49 +1100 Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RW> > When I got to the boot loader options, I was surprised to find RW> > only lilo. RW> RW> You need a default bootloader during the install. lilo works. If RW> you don't like it, change it after the install. RW> RW> > I

Failed to activate:'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon

2003-11-04 Thread Thomas H. George
After the most recent apt-get dist-upgrade I can no longer use the gnome windows manager. If I start gdm it allows me to login but then displays the Failed to activate:'OAFIID:GNOME_SettingsDaemon' message. If I start kdm instead it allows a choice of windows managers. icewm works but some t

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Roberto Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 08:41 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. I do not dissagree on any point. However it should be my choice. Should I do something so stupid as download as r

Re: Howto remove grub? - yup

2003-11-04 Thread Alvin Oga
hi andres yup, you're right :-) On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:19:18PM -0500, Andrés Roldán wrote: > Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: .. > > root# grub > > grub> uninstall ( i think it works donno ) > > > > -- or -- > > > > root# lilo -U > > > > -- or -- > > > > # > > # important ... dont

Re: Partitioning

2003-11-04 Thread Chema
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 10:59:16 + (UTC) Marco Cecconi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MC> Hello, I've been having this question on my mind for a bit now: what MC> is the best practice to partition a hard drive under Unix, and in MC> particular under Linux? At work I try to separate different MC> func

Re: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check

2003-11-04 Thread Bill Moseley
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:36:14PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > > cpp doesn't seem to depend on g++, where I believe cc1plus is installed. > > > > Is this a broken package? And if so, which one? > > There have been on-going reports of cpp being broken in weird ways, but > this doesn't sound like tha

Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely

2003-11-04 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003, at 09:25 +0100, Jaque Moreau wrote: > I know you cannot predict this 100 % accurate but what do you think > how likely will XFree86 4.3 be included in stable Sarge? > > I need XFree86 4.3 due to a bug in DRM in prior releases. > > I it is not very likely for it to be inclu

Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely

2003-11-04 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003, at 09:44 +, John Peter wrote: > I stand corrected, Damien ! > As I mentioned I just pasted the info and did not verify it - just > tried to give,those who needed it, a push! > A litlle search before asking doesn't hurt annyone ... No problem at all. Branden's XSF page a

Re: XFree86 4.3 in stable sarge - how likely

2003-11-04 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003, at 09:29 +, John Peter wrote: > Put this on your sources.list : > # XFree 4.3 > deb http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/i386/ ./ > deb http://www.schuldei.org/debian/bruby/ ./ First off, this is for sid ... I believe the original poster in question was looking for packag

Exim4 + Exiscan: demine not catching file extension

2003-11-04 Thread Bill Moseley
I'm testing out exim4-daemon-heavy and I have this ACL: deny message = $found_extension files are not accepted here demime = com:vbs:bat:pif:scr I created a mail attachemet with mutt and I'm testing like: # exim4 -C test.conf -bhc .1234 and then I paste in a message that has an attach

Re: kdebase broken in sarge, what to do?

2003-11-04 Thread Paul Scott
Motyle wrote: I have done as usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade It has told me that many packages will be removed, but I have proceeded anyways (I just trust Debian). Well, the resulting system does not have KDE at all (see bug 210276 for ksysguardd - kdebase depends on ksysguard which

Manual Reference

2003-11-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 09:52 Subject: Re: hdparm script > Alfredo Valles wrote: > Take a look at the Debian Reference section on the boot process: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-boot > Thank yo

Re: devfs and lvm

2003-11-04 Thread Benedict Verheyen
> - Original Message - > From: "Manolis Tzanidakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:49 PM > Subject: Re: devfs and lvm > > [20031030] Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi, > > Hello > >> currently my server (2.4.21) is run

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:52:38AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 06:45 GMT, Mark Healey penned: > > > > I've decided to try to recompile the latest kernel. I figure that it > > would be nice to have the latest kernel with support for only the > > hardware I have (or thi

"Community-oriented" distros

2003-11-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
With the recent launch of Red Hat's Fedora, it seems to me that we now have three major options for people looking for a community-based Linux distribution for x86: Debian, Gentoo, and Fedora. I'm currently using Woody, mostly because of the community aspect (just "feels" right to me) and the p

Re: Howto remove grub?

2003-11-04 Thread Andrés Roldán
Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, David Z Maze wrote: > >> "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I have a machine where I want to cleanly install Debian, but the >> > MBR has remains of grub. I searched the net, but all hits I got >> > involved a DOS diskette

Debian menu empty in gnome-panel

2003-11-04 Thread ZHAO Wei
Hi, Please Cc: me! Thanks! I'm using Debian unstable. There is a bottom menu entry tagged "Debian menu" in the pull-down of the "Applications" button in the gnome-panel. It's empty there under the "Debian menu" ! There's nothing as sub-entry below it. How could I have anything under this menu

Re: Hyper Threading

2003-11-04 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:32:50PM +0100, Marco Cecconi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > >Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > > >>Marco Cecconi wrote: > >> > >> > >>>It's actually Debian's fault! Every time I install it, it reads and > >>>writes the clock wrongly... Dammit! > >>>:-) > >> apt-

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Rob Weir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 01:28 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. Guess I will have to. Regards; Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:54 GMT, Vincent Lefevre penned: > On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system >> did. > > In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I > wouldn't have lost mail. An

Re: Howto remove grub?

2003-11-04 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, David Z Maze wrote: > "W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have a machine where I want to cleanly install Debian, but the > > MBR has remains of grub. I searched the net, but all hits I got > > involved a DOS diskette or similar. I don't have such a disk, > > b

Re: Problem with umount/umount2

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 15:33, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote: > Hi: > > I am using Debian unstable with the kernel that came with Knoppix 3.3 > which uses kernel 2.4.22-xfs. I have mounted /dev/hde6 as /usr, > /dev/hde5 as /home and /dev/hde8 as /var. When I shutdown there is > always a mess

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread ScruLoose
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:51:45PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > > > If testing is what is supposed to be the next release, then it seems > > > pointless to even bother. "Testing" still has Mozilla 1.0. That's what, > > > 2 years old? > > > > We're working on it, but the mozilla package is buggy, whi

Re: EXIM & SPAM filtering

2003-11-04 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "Raymond Gree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:12 PM Subject: EXIM & SPAM filtering > Hi, > as most of you I receive undesired email -spam- > I run my own mail server Exim on a Debian Woody > is there a way to use

Re: devfs and lvm

2003-11-04 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "Manolis Tzanidakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:49 PM Subject: Re: devfs and lvm [20031030] Benedict Verheyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Hello > currently my server (2.4.21) is running LVM. All partitio

Re: Red Hat

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 12:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How-to Install kickstart (Red Hat) in debian: > Como instalar kickstart en debian > (English & Spanish) > (Ingles y Español) > > I need a machine with red hat for use redhat-config-kickstart? NO !! :-) [...] This is timely. I just got

RE: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread DePriest, Jason R.
> -Original Message- > From: Joe Rhett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 3:52 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alex Malinovich > Subject: Re: What's the best package manager for > single-package upgrades? > Let me rephrase. Either the US mirrors are screwed, or ther

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-04 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 18:52, Monique Y. Herman wrote: [...] > Knoppix's ability to detect stuff is nothing short of amazing to me. [...] > And did I mention Knoppix is sweet? Just love that Knoppix CD. Take it everywhere with me... Come to think of it, I never have to use it, so it obvious

Re: df and du results on / strange

2003-11-04 Thread wsa
(/me looks up thinking when will i not be noob anymore) These are the kinda things i tend to learn the hard way, as in today running into a full partition under linux for the first time ever, except for the boot partition but that one is so small it's easy to keep an overall view. I never knew

Re: Slow telnet login on LAN

2003-11-04 Thread Albert Dengg
Hi This seems similar like the problem i head with several daemons: some services (and it seems from what you wrote also telnetd) try to reverse-lookup the connecting IP address, first in /etc/hosts and then in DNS with the standard config and so if you do not have the IP of Box-2 is not in /etc/ho

Re: EXIM & SPAM filtering

2003-11-04 Thread Raymond Gree
I try to use it through the server to clean mails just after receiving them Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 20:12 GMT, Raymond Gree penned: Hi, as most of you I receive undesired email -spam- I run my own mail server Exim on a Debian Woody is there a way to use spamassassin , m

Re: galeon 1.3.x fuckwittedness -- 1.2.5 fork, anyone?

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 11:52:17 +, Karsten M. Self wrote: [...] > A large part of the problem was that Galeon's former lead > developer, Marco Presenti Gritti drifted from "a browser for > power users" to "a browser for the masses". One of the best > things to happen to Galeon was that it's been

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2003-11-04 10:41:10 -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > That's because fetchmail didn't lose the mail; the delivery system did. In some sense, yes. But if fetchmail didn't use the delivery system, I wouldn't have lost mail. > You're absolutely right -- a misconfigured MTA is dangerous and can >

Re: X that supports rotation?

2003-11-04 Thread Kent West
stan wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:32:30AM -0600, Kent West wrote: stan wrote: Is there a version of X available for Debian that supports rotating my LCD screen into portrait mode? It depends on your video driver (and I suppose, whether your LCD panel can handle it). For example, if you have

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:04 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:47:17AM +0800, csj wrote: > > Maybe it's time to file a serious bug report against > > linux-kernel-headers. IMHO there should at least be two header > > packages, one for 2.4 and another for 2.6. One could be

Re: Howto remove grub?

2003-11-04 Thread David Z Maze
"W. Borgert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a machine where I want to cleanly install Debian, but the > MBR has remains of grub. I searched the net, but all hits I got > involved a DOS diskette or similar. I don't have such a disk, > but I can boot the machine using Knoppix or other Debian

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:36:21 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: [...] > > Xine also fails to compile (ditto nvrec, a low overhead > > recording program). My conclusion: all video applications > > are affected. > > Eh? The only things that could possibly be affected are those > using kernel headers because

Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Rhett
> > If testing is what is supposed to be the next release, then it seems > > pointless to even bother. "Testing" still has Mozilla 1.0. That's what, > > 2 years old? > > We're working on it, but the mozilla package is buggy, which makes it > difficult to make the testing management scripts happy

Re: apt-get question

2003-11-04 Thread Joe Rhett
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:26:15PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > The general answer is "downgrades are not supported". It is often > possible to just install the previous versions of packages with "dpkg" > (look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ for old .debs), but there are no > guarantees. Installing "apt

Slow telnet login on LAN

2003-11-04 Thread Marc Shapiro
Can someone explain to me why this happens: I have a two system LAN connected by a 4 port 10/100 switch. One box is used exclusively as an Internet gateway. I have a dialup connection and the connection is managed through this box (call it Box-1). Since this is a dialup connection, it does N

Re: Crash in fork.c on everything = install hosed

2003-11-04 Thread Malcolm Box
Gary Hennigan wrote: "Malcolm Box" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: OK, that looks like it might fix things. But can anyone tell me how to get the new version onto my machine given that both dpkg & apt-get don't work at the moment? Is there some way to manually unpack the files from the .deb into

Re: How to Eliminate Popups? - No Luck

2003-11-04 Thread Thomas H. George
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:19:49PM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 09:03:00 -0500 > "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is there a setting in Mozilla to eliminate popups? I am running testing > > and have the latest release of Mozilla for testing but a search of

Re: EXIM & SPAM filtering

2003-11-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 20:12 GMT, Raymond Gree penned: > Hi, as most of you I receive undesired email -spam- I run my own mail > server Exim on a Debian Woody is there a way to use spamassassin , > mailfilter or other to kill these mails the only information I have > been able to find is when using

Re: How to Eliminate Popups? - Thanks

2003-11-04 Thread Thomas H. George
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:12:01AM +1100, Damien Solley wrote: > On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 01:03, Thomas H. George wrote: > > Is there a setting in Mozilla to eliminate popups? I am running testing > > and have the latest release of Mozilla for testing but a search of the > > index finds nothing reg

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:37:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > That hierarchy [/usr/include/{linux,asm}] is chiefly for glibc's > internal use; applications were never supposed to use it directly. If these are supposed to be private, why are they now provided in a seperate package? -- Jon Dowl

Re: Hyper Threading

2003-11-04 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003, at 11:07 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Marco Cecconi wrote: > > > It's actually Debian's fault! Every time I install it, it reads > > > and writes the clock wrongly... Dammit! > > > :-) > > > > apt-get install ntp > > apt-get install ntp ntpda

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:12:07PM +0100, wsa wrote: > Every time i start to think 'i'm getting the hang of linux' things > like this happen...lib stuff...compile stuff...at times i think i need > spiked mountain shoes to climb the learning curve ;) if you run unstable, you can get exactly what

Re: X that supports rotation?

2003-11-04 Thread stan
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:32:30AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > stan wrote: > >Is there a version of X available for Debian that supports rotating my LCD > >screen into portrait mode? > > > > It depends on your video driver (and I suppose, whether your LCD panel > can handle it). For example, if you

Cube (was Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn)

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 07:21:28AM +0800, csj wrote: > Many of the free games available in main will give you the same > feeling when compared with commercially developed games like > Quake and cousins. All I'm looking for is a first person > perspective game that doesn't strap you on to a seat

Re: kdebase broken in sarge, what to do?

2003-11-04 Thread Ralph Alvy
Motyle wrote: > I have done as usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade > > It has told me that many packages will be removed, but I have proceeded > anyways (I just trust Debian). > > Well, the resulting system does not have KDE at all (see bug 210276 for > ksysguardd - kdebase depends on ksy

Re: Hyper Threading

2003-11-04 Thread Marco Cecconi
Karsten M. Self wrote: Marco Cecconi wrote: It's actually Debian's fault! Every time I install it, it reads and writes the clock wrongly... Dammit! :-) apt-get install ntp apt-get install ntp ntpdate :-) If the clock is very far off when ntp starts up then ntp won't be a

Unidentified subject!

2003-11-04 Thread Marc Shapiro
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 03:57:02PM +, Richard Kimber wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:35:20 + > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IRC channels are the best you're likely to do for running guidance. If > > there's really serious hose-your-syst

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 21:14 GMT, David Jardine penned: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:09:53AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> >> >> PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. >> Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! >> > > You know, it must be so o

Re: Crash in fork.c on everything = install hosed

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:42:08 -0500, Mental Patient wrote: [...] > Last time I broke libc, I fixed it by booting off my rescue > (knoppix) cd. Mounted all the filesystems under > /mnt/debian. It looked like > > /mnt/debian > /mnt/debian/boot > /mnt/debian/usr > /mnt/debian/var > > etc... > > I

Re: POP3 mail fetcher that supports unreliable connections?

2003-11-04 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:28:21AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 19:06, Pigeon wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 05:38:44AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 16:36, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > Is there a POP3 mail fetcher that wouldn't download messages t

Re: source.list won't stat (problem gone)

2003-11-04 Thread Haines Brown
> From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [Could you attribute the person whom you're quoting, please?] Sorry - this not working yet, and it sometimes slips my mind to copy a line from from the header. > To copy from xterm, highlight the region you want to copy with the > left mouse button.

Re: GUI login screen and non-root shutdown...

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:56:47 -0600, Kent West wrote: [...] > If you have an X session going, and you switch to a VTx, you > can then log in as a different user and start a second X > session with a command like "startx -- :1". Go to a third VT > and start a third session with a command like "star

EXIM & SPAM filtering

2003-11-04 Thread Raymond Gree
Hi, as most of you I receive undesired email -spam- I run my own mail server Exim on a Debian Woody is there a way to use spamassassin , mailfilter or other to kill these mails the only information I have been able to find is when using a fetch software thank you very much for your help Raymond --

Re: Stable Debian == obsolete??

2003-11-04 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 at 17:46 GMT, Pigeon penned: > > > DynDNS.org accounts are free? I didn't realise that - I thought there > was an annual fee (albeit sufficiently minimal that remembering to pay > it would be more of a problem than finding the money, even for me :-) > ) debian-user scores agai

Howto remove grub?

2003-11-04 Thread W. Borgert
Hello, I have a machine where I want to cleanly install Debian, but the MBR has remains of grub. I searched the net, but all hits I got involved a DOS diskette or similar. I don't have such a disk, but I can boot the machine using Knoppix or other Debian rescue CDs. What is the magic command li

Verizon DSL (pppoeconf, WinXp, netgear rt311 don't work)

2003-11-04 Thread DvB
Please CC me on all replies since I'm not currently subscribed to the list. I start talking about Debian specifically around paragraph 7. You might consider the rest to be slightly OT. I just got Verizon DSL last week and have yet to manage to get online. I was unsuccessful with my roommate's WinX

Re: GUI login screen.

2003-11-04 Thread David Jardine
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 11:09:53AM -0700, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > > PLEASE don't CC me. Please. Pretty please with sugar on top. > Whatever it takes, just don't CC me! I'm already subscribed!! > You know, it must be so obvious to you experienced people, but there are some of us out her

Re: hdparm script (thanks)

2003-11-04 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Tuesday 04 November 2003 10:28 am, Nicolas Kowalski wrote: > # hdparm optimization > # Switches on interrupts during transfers and does multi sector transfers > if command -v hdparm >/dev/null 2>&1; then >hdparm -q -d1 -c3 -a4 -m16 -u1 -W0 /dev/hda >true Thanks Nicolas, Dennis and every

RE: Backup Package names currently installed

2003-11-04 Thread Jochen Daum
Hi! > on Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 12:26:46PM +1300, Jochen Daum > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi! > > > > I have a debian woody machine which I installed via FTP. > > > > I would like to dump the names of all installed packages > into a file, > > so that I can install them automatically with dpkg.

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