Re: fetchmail/exim chokes on a message...

2003-10-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:47:01AM -0700, Sanchez the Cactus wrote: > I'm currently using fetchmail set up as a daemon to gather mail from > various email accounts and deliver them on my system. default exim3 > is installed, and users have .procmailrc files to direct mails to a > local Maildir. I

Re: Kmail 2 features (was: Re: More on spam)

2003-10-17 Thread Magnus von Koeller
On Saturday 18 October 2003 03:53, cr wrote: > I'm using Kmail 1.3.2 in KDE 2.2.2. in Woody.    I thought that POP > filter was a feature that was only in Kmail 2. True, true - that version doesn't have POP filters yet IIRC. It's not KMail 2, though, they just went on with 1.4 and are now at 1.5

Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-10-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
David Bell wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 22:16, aristeidis tsitras wrote: (II)ATI RADEON (II)Primary device is PCI 01:00:0 (II)ATI: candidate "device" section "generic video card" (ww)ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected (ww)ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected

Re: how could Packages mention files that don't exist yet?

2003-10-17 Thread Paul William
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 17:52, Dan Jacobson wrote: > How do the mirrors work? Are the Packages files always copied last, > to ensure all the versions mentioned in them already exist on the disk > when you try to get them? > > In what cases could an hours old Packages file mention packages that > ap

how could Packages mention files that don't exist yet?

2003-10-17 Thread Dan Jacobson
How do the mirrors work? Are the Packages files always copied last, to ensure all the versions mentioned in them already exist on the disk when you try to get them? In what cases could an hours old Packages file mention packages that apparently haven't been copied to the mirror yet? E.g. http://d

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 09:16:30 -0700, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 12:07:51PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > If your email service is unacceptable, complain to your ema

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:24:00AM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I am not a reference material; I am a person who > occasionally, when I have the time and inclination, tries to help out > others on public fora. If someone has a question prompted

Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-10-17 Thread David Bell
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 22:16, aristeidis tsitras wrote: > (II)ATI RADEON > (II)Primary device is PCI 01:00:0 > (II)ATI: candidate "device" section "generic video > card" > (ww)ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected > (ww)ATI: PCI/AGP Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected > (EE)

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 18:12, Don Werve wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:37:33PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > > > english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy to > > create english based programming language - the basic control structures > > are pretty much english sente

Re: gtk2 apps + utf 8 = squared characters

2003-10-17 Thread Marshal Wong
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 19:52, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:45:23AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote: > > Hi, I use Sarge and have some gtk2 apps like xchat but when someone is > > typing an international language, all I can see is these squared > > characters - how do I fix this ? >

Re: Re. CD writer - still

2003-10-17 Thread Sidney Brooks
--- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Sidney Brooks wrote: > > your kernel config looks good > > egrep -i > "BLK_DEV_LOOP|BLK_DEV_RAM|BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE|BLK_DEV_IDESCSI|CONFIG_SCSI=|CONFIG_MINIX_FS" > > /usr/local/src/linux-2.4.22/.config > > >

Re: 2.6.0 + where is /etc/modules?

2003-10-17 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:06:46AM -0700, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Trying to load a sound module that was in /etc/modules > in 2.4.21 as cs4232. > /etc/modules is no longer used in 2.6.0. Everything in > the Debian Manual refers to /etc/modules. Just as an aside, /etc/modules wasn't used in 2.4.x

Re: 2.6.0 + where is /etc/modules?

2003-10-17 Thread Andrew Schulman
> Documentation on how to load modules in 2.6.0 on > Debian is a mess. Don't be too hard on Debian. Things have changed in 2.6.0, and it's true that the docs haven't caught up yet. But this isn't surprising. Give the maintainers some more time to catch up. Meanwhile here's what I've figured

with regard to tyan tiger 1832

2003-10-17 Thread frank goodman
saw thread dated fed 2001. is the subject able to support a dvd/cdr/cdrw burner? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: gtk2 apps + utf 8 = squared characters

2003-10-17 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:45:23AM -0400, ThanhVu Nguyen wrote: > Hi, I use Sarge and have some gtk2 apps like xchat but when someone is > typing an international language, all I can see is these squared > characters - how do I fix this ? Set your locale properly and make sure you're using a fo

Kmail 2 features (was: Re: More on spam)

2003-10-17 Thread cr
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 23:27, Magnus von Koeller wrote: > On Friday 17 October 2003 11:50, cr wrote: > > Sounds like you have a POP account?    I had to go the webmail > > route a couple of times when Kmail showed there was >> 2MB of mail > > in my account.   A pox on > > But KMail has POP filters tha

Re: Where can I get lame for "testing"

2003-10-17 Thread Scott C. Linnenbringer
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 19:47:07 -0400, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm setting up a new "testing" machine/ > > lame appears in dselect, and I've tried to install it that way, but it > does not install. I've tried apt-get install lame, and I get "No > installation caidate" > > What can I do t

Re: kernel 2.6.0-test4 and ASUS P4P800

2003-10-17 Thread Neal Lippman
Don't forget that for hyperthreading support to appear like 2 cpus, you also need to enable ACPI Processor Enumeration for HT (ACPI_HT) and enable HT in the bios. Then again, I have yet to get a bootable 2.6.0-testx on my P4P800. If you have a working config file, please forward if you would! (I

download

2003-10-17 Thread Gijanerun
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Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Chris Roddy
Don Werve wrote: Actually, English grammar is a nightmare to behold; there is no consistent method of handling verb conjugations, and the structure of a sentence is integral to its meaning; you can't just randomly move words around in an English sentence and expect things to work. The way a comp

Re: Danny killed his X config!

2003-10-17 Thread Dan Roscoe
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 00:59, Kent West wrote: > Dan Roscoe wrote: > > >Anyway, I was able to get X working again now, with one exception. My > >mouse cursor is now a series of vertical bars (think bar code) around, I > >would guess 75pixels square. I've had this happen before with Debian, > >and I

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:28:03PM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: > A question: The decision of putting your mail address publicly available > shouldn't be taken by the subscriber? > I don't remember when I subscribed if I was given the choice. That's

Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused

2003-10-17 Thread Paul Yeatman
->>In response to your message<<- --received from Rob Weir-- > > > Determining which true type font package to install myself > > isn't so obvious. Looks like any package starting with ttf- are true > > type font packages. The only three that don't seem to be for another > > language are the no

Re: Re. CD writer - still

2003-10-17 Thread Alvin Oga
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Sidney Brooks wrote: your kernel config looks good egrep -i "BLK_DEV_LOOP|BLK_DEV_RAM|BLK_DEV_RAM_SIZE|BLK_DEV_IDESCSI|CONFIG_SCSI=|CONFIG_MINIX_FS" /usr/local/src/linux-2.4.22/.config also keep a copy of linux-2.4.22/.config somewhere sa

Re: problem setting up spamassassin

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 23:22 GMT, Paul E Condon penned: > > My question is: Having done apt-get install spamassassin, what do I do > next? Surely I need to read something and do some configuration, but > where are the directions? Where do I go next _within the Debian > environment_? > Hrm. I in

Re: Where can I get lame for "testing"

2003-10-17 Thread Paul William
> lame appears in dselect, and I've tried to install it that way, but it does I dont think lame is in debian (http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=lame&searchon=names&subword=1&version=testing&release=all) ... try searching apt-get.org. -- .''`. Paul William :

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 23:09 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > Can't disagree with you there. Have you tried functional lan- guages > like Haskell? They are pretty odd to programmers with procedural and > OO paradigms. I learned about lisp and prolog in college, and used them for projects then. I a

Re: modutils problem

2003-10-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 08:01:09PM +0200, LeVA wrote: > Hello! > > I have noticed that when I load a module the /etc/modutils/ > files, which conatins the "post-install" lines, doesn't run. > So when I load my emu10k1 for example, which has a /etc/modutils/emu10k1 > file, which contains this lin

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 22:37 GMT, Erik Steffl penned: > >english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy >to create english based programming language - the basic control >structures are pretty much english sentences. > >This would be fairly hard todo in other la

Where can I get lame for "testing"

2003-10-17 Thread stan
I'm setting up a new "testing" machine/ lame appears in dselect, and I've tried to install it that way, but it does not install. I've tried apt-get install lame, and I get "No installation caidate" What can I do to fix this? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety des

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Don Werve
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:37:33PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > > english has a fairly simple a regular grammar so it's fairly easy to > create english based programming language - the basic control structures > are pretty much english sentences. > Actually, English grammar is a nightmare to be

Re: problem setting up spamassassin

2003-10-17 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:22:17PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > My question is: Having done apt-get install spamassassin, what do I > do next? Surely I need to read something and do some configuration, > but where are the directions? Where do I go next _within the Debian > environment_? links

problem setting up spamassassin

2003-10-17 Thread Paul E Condon
I've been following the discussion of spam flood, and decided to try using spamassassin. I'm running a plain vanilla Sarge, with dialup. I use fetchmail, exim, procmail, mutt. After apt-get install fetchmail I look at README.Debian for instructions on what to do next. I see "Please read the READM

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:15, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 19:01 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > > On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:29, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> You're right; the anglo-centric nature of most programming languages > >> is distressing. It would be fun to code in a langua

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 16:25, Deryk Barker wrote: > Thus spake Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 04:15:48AM -0700, Tom wrote: > > > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > > > > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programmin

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 19:01 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:29, Monique Y. Herman wrote: You're right; the anglo-centric nature of most programming languages is distressing. It would be fun to code in a language based on a totally Distressing

Re: modutils problem

2003-10-17 Thread LeVA
David Z Maze írta: LeVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I have noticed that when I load a module the /etc/modutils/ files, which conatins the "post-install" lines, doesn't run. So when I load my emu10k1 for example, which has a /etc/modutils/emu10k1 file, which contains this line: post-install emu10k

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 04:15:48AM -0700, Tom wrote: > > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming > > languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I fin

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 19:01 GMT, Ron Johnson penned: > On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:29, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> You're right; the anglo-centric nature of most programming languages >> is distressing. It would be fun to code in a language based on a >> totally > > Distressing What an ove

Mounting workstation /home on laptop

2003-10-17 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
Hello world! I had this idea the other day. My parents have a network I made for them, and currently, it is a router running floppyfw, a workstation running Woody and a laptop running Woody. So, I figured, if the laptop is in use at home, which it is most of the time, behind this firewall, in

Re: Re. CD writer - still

2003-10-17 Thread Sidney Brooks
--- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi ya sidney > > please post your .config file in its entiity or > send it to me/us/somebody .. > /usr/local/src/linux-2.4.22/.config > or where ever you put the kernel > c ya > alvin > > you can have lilo do anything you like ... >

Re: [OT] sed expression wildcard bafflement

2003-10-17 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 17 Oct 2003 04:53:55PM -0400, Travis Crump insinuated: > Nori Heikkinen wrote: > >a friend just asked me about a shell script she's trying to write. > >she's got a file that looks like this: > > > > blah blah thi. blah thi. blah blah > > blah thi. blah thi. blah blah blah > > > >&c. -- lo

Re: [OT] sed expression wildcard bafflement

2003-10-17 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:56:39PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > a friend just asked me about a shell script she's trying to write. > she's got a file that looks like this: > > blah blah thi. blah thi. blah blah > blah thi. blah thi. blah blah blah > > &c. -- lots of "thi."s in there. > > s

RE: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Wathen, Metherion
> >Personally, I prefer Opera for linux, on my old box it loads > >at least twice as fast as Mozilla, not that I dislike mozilla, > >opera was just faster. > >have they got tabbed browsing in ie yet? > > > > If you're going to make commentary like that, you might want > to keep up > with the cur

wdm problem

2003-10-17 Thread Matthias Leopold
hi i would like to use wdm instead of xdm, but on two out of three debian boxes it doesn't work. i can't login. i enter my credentials, wdm seems to log me in ...then the xserver restarts and there's wdm again. nothing about wrong password or anything. no logfiles (/var/log/wdm.log, /var/log/auth.

Re: Re: Canon BJC-250

2003-10-17 Thread Steve Mays
Hello my name is Mandy Smith.  I'm looking for a Canon BJC-250 printer disk.  I've tried to download it and it will not do that.  I've done everything I could but cannot get it to download on the computer.  Can you please help me get a disk or tell me where I can buy one?   Thanks Mandy   e

Re: Re. CD writer - still

2003-10-17 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya sidney please post your .config file in its entiity or send it to me/us/somebody .. /usr/local/src/linux-2.4.22/.config or where ever you put the kernel c ya alvin you can have lilo do anything you like ... - for simplicity ... make a boot floppy for the cd

Re: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Jeff McAdams
Steve C. Lamb wrote: Get your eyes checked, Jeff, he asked if *IE* had tabbed browsing. Aw, crap...you're right. My apologies. Totally misread that. -- Jeff McAdams "He who laughs last, thinks slowest." -- anonymous pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: Canon BJC-250

2003-10-17 Thread Steve Mays
Hello My name is Mandy Smith.  I am looking for a disk to download Canon BJC-250.  I can't find one anywhere in Pine Bluff.  I need it so I can print.  Since i don't have that I can't print anything out on my computer.       Thanks,   

audigy ls sound in sid: solved

2003-10-17 Thread Antonio Rodr
I finally got my audigy card working after a long battle. For references, the instructions given in the tutorial about installing alsa in debian in http://www.linuxorbit.com (tutorials section) and pointed at from debianplanet.org, didn't work, failed miserably. The instructions at http://www.so

Re: Pentium M processor and kernel .config

2003-10-17 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dijous 16 Octubre 2003 19:08, en Jerome BENOIT va escriure: > Is it a centrino processor ? Centrino means: - -Pentium-M processor - -Intel 855 chipset - -Inter wireless card (no linux drivers 8-( ) > > model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M proce

Re: Pentium M processor and kernel .config

2003-10-17 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dijous 16 Octubre 2003 19:04, en Luc Lefebvre va escriure: > Hi, > > I am compiling my kernels for a mobile pentium processor using: > > > CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y > > Reading different webpages and postings it seems that some are using > PENTIUMIII other

Re: [OT] sed expression wildcard bafflement

2003-10-17 Thread Travis Crump
Nori Heikkinen wrote: a friend just asked me about a shell script she's trying to write. she's got a file that looks like this: blah blah thi. blah thi. blah blah blah thi. blah thi. blah blah blah &c. -- lots of "thi."s in there. she's trying something equivalent to: word1=thi.; word2=th

Re: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Mark Roach
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 15:24, Jeff McAdams wrote: > Wathen, Metherion wrote: [...] > >have they got tabbed browsing in ie yet? > Since you're questioning whether Mozilla has tabbed browsing (it has > for...oh...a year now maybe?), then you're probably not aware of the > *amazing* performance incr

Re: modutils problem

2003-10-17 Thread David Z Maze
LeVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have noticed that when I load a module the > /etc/modutils/ files, which conatins the "post-install" > lines, doesn't run. > So when I load my emu10k1 for example, which has a > /etc/modutils/emu10k1 file, which contains this line: > post-install emu10k1 /usr/l

Re: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 03:24:41PM -0400, Jeff McAdams wrote: > Wathen, Metherion wrote: > >have they got tabbed browsing in ie yet? > Since you're questioning whether Mozilla has tabbed browsing (it has > for...oh...a year now maybe?), then you're probably not aware of the > *amazing* performan

Re: problem using parted 1.6.6-1

2003-10-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
John Covici wrote: I was trying to resize an ext3 file system and I got the following message from parted: not implementation cannot resize this yet your ext2 file system has a strange layout. I have used this utility before, but is there something about est3 partitions created on recent kernels (2

Re: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Wathen, Metherion wrote: Personally, I prefer Opera for linux, on my old box it loads at least twice as fast as Mozilla, not that I dislike mozilla, opera was just faster. have they got tabbed browsing in ie yet? fwiw, mw Have you tried Firebird at all? I find that it loads quicker than anything

OT: ST Philosophy [WAS: Re: More on spam]

2003-10-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Jeff Elkins wrote: However, to slip into SF geekism, I remember Spock saying to Kirk, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." I think the needs of the many have spelled an end to email addresses being posted on debian.org web pages. OK, I am going way OT here, but that is not a

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Sidney Brooks
--- ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:57:15AM -0700, Sidney > Brooks wrote: > > > Filters will not solve the problem. The problem is > > that so much spam is coming in that it overloads > the > > allocated mailbox space and then Yahoo, and I > presume > > other ser

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Dennis Stosberg wrote: But why should anyone want this? --- german.h: #define ganzzahl int #define solange while #define schreibef printf --- test.c: #include #include ganzzahl main() { ganzzahl a = 0; solange(a < 5) { schreibef("Dies ist Zeile %d\n", a); a++;

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Joey Hess
Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:48:49AM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > If one more person starts a "what's with the spam?" thread ... > > ... I'm going to start aggressively killfiling and probably eventually > just unsubscribe. There's more complaining about spam than ac

Re. What if on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Sidney Brooks
--- "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 17:04 GMT, Sidney Brooks > penned: > > What if we put some pressure on the email > providers, in my case Yahoo. > > Suppose I create a new email account with Yahoo, > whose address I gave > > to correspondent

[OT] sed expression wildcard bafflement

2003-10-17 Thread Nori Heikkinen
a friend just asked me about a shell script she's trying to write. she's got a file that looks like this: blah blah thi. blah thi. blah blah blah thi. blah thi. blah blah blah &c. -- lots of "thi."s in there. she's trying something equivalent to: word1=thi.; word2=this; sed 's/$word1/

Re: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Jeff McAdams
Wathen, Metherion wrote: Let's see, javascript compliance with browsers that insist on MSIE compliance only. The lastest linux versions of Opera and Mozilla are both far superior to Internet Explorer in every way. Personally, I prefer Opera for linux, on my old box it loads at least tw

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:24:00AM -0600, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 16:07 GMT, Derrick 'dman' Hudson penned: > > snip... > Besides which, I've had people email me directly regarding archived > posts before, and I would really much rather they have posted to the > newsgroup

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:32:28PM +0200, Dr.-Ing. C. Hurschler wrote: | But I'm kind of wondering about how swen is still getting propogated | so much. Are there really that many infected computers who's users | don't know it??? Maybe, maybe not. Was it SoBig that used the subject "My Detail

Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused

2003-10-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 07:59:16AM +0800, csj said > On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:27:14 +1000, Rob Weir wrote: > > Yes, defoma aka "Debian Font Manager". When you install a new font, > > it handles setting up symlinks and such so that you can just point X > > at /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/T

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:27:04AM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > Brian Walker([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:20:24 +0800, John Hasler wrote: > > > > As for getting spamassassin installed, I will fumble a bit in the dark, > > despite the instructions, and screa

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Tom
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:01:24PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:29, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 11:15 GMT, Tom penned: > > > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > > > > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High

RE: upgrade error testing powermgmt-base_1.17_i386.deb

2003-10-17 Thread Jaye Inabnit
Hello: I found help via libranet's forum: I'm posting this message for others that are having the same problem. --quote-- Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 3:12 amPost subject: powermgmt-base_1.17_i386.deb upgrade error Libranet 2.8.1 Hello: B

Disk corruption on crash

2003-10-17 Thread James Tappin
Hi, I've just had a system crash (possibly a power glitch), and one of my disks seems corrupted. >From dmesg (or /var/log/syslog): Partition check: hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 hda9 hda10 hda11 hda12 > hde: hde1 hde2 hde3 hdf: hdf1 hdf2 hdf3 hdf4 < > hdg: hdg1 hdg2

Re: Debian Font Guide for Newbies and the Confused

2003-10-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 03:07:52PM -0700, Paul Yeatman said > > > The debconf message for defoma told me to put > > > /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType as a FontPath in > > > XF86Config-4 but my /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfon t-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ > > > directory contains nothing but t

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:19:58AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:36, Tom wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:04:44PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > > > On Friday 17 October 2003 12:53, Jeff Elkins wrote: > > Case In Point, every Swen Mail that came from a valid mailing h

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 02:21:57PM -0400, Alfredo Valles wrote: | On Friday 17 October 2003 12:07 pm, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | > If your email service is unacceptable, complain to your email | > provider. You must create a business case for them to act. All | > commercial providers are in

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 12:29, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 11:15 GMT, Tom penned: > > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming > > languages using non-English syntax? Like, could

HP (Compaq?) Insight Agents / Management Software on Debian

2003-10-17 Thread VEGH Karoly
Hi all, Has anyone managed to install the Management software agents from HP (Compaq) on a Proliant machine? Of course I mean on Debian. There are just .rpm's to download, with some really ugly hack they work so half-half, but that's all... Any experience? tia charlie -- Végh Károly - S

Re: Re. More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread John Hasler
> Although we hate to face the truth, the spammers like the terrorists are > winning. Just as it seems that we will never go back to the time when we > could go from our cars to an airplane without layers of security > protection, we may never be able to have email with messages we want. Bad analo

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 04:15:48AM -0700, Tom wrote: > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming > languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C > compiler that uses "pour" instead

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Dennis Stosberg
Am Fr, den 17.10.2003 schrieb Tom um 13:15: > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming > languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C > compiler that uses "pour" instead of "for"

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Friday 17 October 2003 12:09 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:56:33AM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: > > On Friday 17 October 2003 11:21 am, Paul Johnson wrote: > > >Munging considered harmful. > > > http://www.interhack.net/pub

RE: Decent browsers for Linux? Anything to replace IE?

2003-10-17 Thread Wathen, Metherion
> > Let's see, javascript compliance with browsers that > > insist on > > MSIE compliance only. > > The lastest linux versions of Opera and Mozilla are > both far superior to Internet Explorer in every way. Personally, I prefer Opera for linux, on my old box it loads at least twice as fast as Moz

Re: m3u copy shell script. (need help :)

2003-10-17 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Fre, 2003-10-17 um 18.54 schrieb LeVA: > Hello! > > I wanted to create a tiny script which reads a .m3u file, and then > copies the "real" mp3 files which has an entry in the m3u file to a > given dir. > > Here is my idea: > > -- # Script # -- > #!/bin/bash > TMP=/tmp/cpm3u_

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 17 October 2003 1:24 pm, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > I am not a reference material; I am a person who >occasionally, when I have the time and inclination, tries to help out >others on public fora. If someone has a question prompted by a mailing >list archive, they should direct their ques

problem using parted 1.6.6-1

2003-10-17 Thread John Covici
I was trying to resize an ext3 file system and I got the following message from parted: not implementation cannot resize this yet your ext2 file system has a strange layout. I have used this utility before, but is there something about est3 partitions created on recent kernels (2.4.2x) which cause

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:19:58AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: | The majority of the 55,000+ SWEN response mails I have sent have gone | un-noticed. And I have sent that standard message to some individuals | 50-100 times. And a vast majority are in the "repeat" arena. So it falls | on deaf ears.

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread John Hasler
ScruLoose writes: > Even if you use _no_ filtering, this eliminates the "mailbox full" > problem... unless you get enough spam to fill your hard drive. Or you are on a shared dialup and the worms and spams are coming in faster than you can download them. That was my situation at the peak of the S

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 06:15, Tom wrote: > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming > languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C > compiler that uses "pour" instead of "for" and

2.6.0 + where is /etc/modules?

2003-10-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, Documentation on how to load modules in 2.6.0 on Debian is a mess. Maybe this is too advanced yet, who knows. Trying to load a sound module that was in /etc/modules in 2.4.21 as cs4232. /etc/modules is no longer used in 2.6.0. Everything in the Debian Manual refers to /etc/modules. Now with A

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Alfredo Valles
On Friday 17 October 2003 12:07 pm, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Consider "John Doe", a new user of debian who does his homework by > searching the web and the archives for the solution to problems he > encounters before posting to the list. Now suppose John finds some > information in the archi

Re: What if on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 17:04 GMT, Sidney Brooks penned: > What if we put some pressure on the email providers, in my case Yahoo. > Suppose I create a new email account with Yahoo, whose address I gave > to correspondents that I want, while keeping my current Yahoo address > only for this list. In t

modutils problem

2003-10-17 Thread LeVA
Hello! I have noticed that when I load a module the /etc/modutils/ files, which conatins the "post-install" lines, doesn't run. So when I load my emu10k1 for example, which has a /etc/modutils/emu10k1 file, which contains this line: post-install emu10k1 /usr/local/etc/emu-script doesn't run. Wh

Re: OT - Programming Languages w/o English Syntax

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 11:15 GMT, Tom penned: > [OT, sorry -- but question is obscure, will be hard to google] > > Are any non-english-speaking readers aware of High-level programming > languages using non-English syntax? Like, could I find a French C > compiler that uses "pour" instead of "for"

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:48:49AM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > If one more person starts a "what's with the spam?" thread ... ... I'm going to start aggressively killfiling and probably eventually just unsubscribe. There's more complaining about spam than actual content on this list thes

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 05:57:15AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > Filters will not solve the problem. The problem is > that so much spam is coming in that it overloads the > allocated mailbox space and then Yahoo, and I presume > other services, refuse to accept more email. Of course, if you had

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Monique Y. Herman
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 at 16:07 GMT, Derrick 'dman' Hudson penned: > > --2Z2K0IlrPCVsbNpk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: > quoted-printable > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 11:56:33AM -0400, Jeff Elkins wrote: >| On Friday 17 October 20

Newbie on troubles...

2003-10-17 Thread Mauricio Argote
Hello there, I installed Debian on my pc and have some troubles making it work. Does anybody can give me a clue about how to proceed? Here are the problems: 1) NETWORK CARD NOT RECOGNIZED. I am connected to a LAN with a static IP address. I am using a "SMC EZ PCI 10/100 Fast Ethernet Network C

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Alfredo Valles
> I don't see what you could do about it before it reaches you machine in > that case. > Whoever runs a (corporate?) mail server these days without a spam filter > should be considered legally insane. The server have an antispam runing but swen messages are not technically spam. > Now that would

Re: exim4: How to stop viruses at SMTP time

2003-10-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:20:09AM -0700, Steve C. Lamb wrote: > On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 09:07:58AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > I was thinking the same thing, but I decided against something like > > that in favor of being surgical about it. This also prevents > > somethings like, say, m.d.o, f

Re: More on spam

2003-10-17 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Friday 17 October 2003 12:37 pm, Roberto Sanchez wrote: >The only problem is that a solution to this problem will take >literally *years* of educating Windows users and sysadmins. >This all blew up in just a few days, but will take a very long >time to fix. Unless you go the unpopular route of

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