> > I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
> > program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
> > things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
> > root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Lamar Folsom wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble finding the disks for 1.3? I'd appreciate any
> pointers. The 'bo/disks-i386/1997-04-04/' directory seems to be empty.
I have the same problem. I had thought it may be because I mirror a
mirror (which in turn may not dir
Those are all points that have been brought up before and will be addressed.
Thanks for the input!
Brian
( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
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the difference
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Britton wrote:
> I used to run slackware...
Me too, and also tried RedHat recently, but not for a long time.
> I think individual package selectin on install is something we should
> keep, at least as a perfectly accesable option. I would like to see the
> energy go into
I assumed that the hardware clock was always written to reflect the
current system time on shutdown. Is that true? The reason I ask is
because we just had the daylight savings switch here, and at least one
of my systems came up after a reboot with the wrong time (it was an
hour off). If the clo
Is anyone else having trouble finding the disks for 1.3? I'd appreciate any
pointers. The 'bo/disks-i386/1997-04-04/' directory seems to be empty.
TIA
--
Lamar Folsom
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~fols9488
"Life is wasted on the living." - The Master
> I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
> program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
> things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
> root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Wher
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote:
> Quoting Syrus Nemat-Nasser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> [...]
> > These disks are obsolete. There is a newer set (1997-04-04?). There
> > were many problems with those disks. The newest disk set allows for a
> > floppyless install from a dos system. I d
> > Yes. Many have raised the issue of conflicts on install. The answer at
> > this
> > point is to run configure over and over. Each time it will install
> > something
> > that is needed to settle the conflicts. The problem is that the selected
> > files aren't in dependant order. Hopeful
Hi again,
It seems that the following devices are missing after the installation
from the base disks:
/dev/mcd
/dev/mcdx
/dev/modem
I managed to create /dev/mcdx0 and /dev/mcdx1 by typing
mknod /dev/mcdx0 b 20 0
mknod /dev/mcdx1 b 20 1
Is this correct...??
But I don't know how to create /dev/m
> > I stay versed in vi commands because I have to be, not because I want
> > to be. There may be a better bare-bones editor for debian than ae, but
> > it should not be vi.
>
> no, it should be vi because that is the standard unix text editor. you
> want something else, then install something el
Hello,
how can I see package names that are too long to fit in the dpkg -l
standard output?
For example the kernel-source packages generated by make-kpkg don't show
the VERY IMPORTANT kernel version number when listed in the dpkg -l
output.
Thanks -- Peter
--
--
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
> Sorry. I was watching these vi msgs go back and forth and had to jump in and
> make it worse. I think everyone should use whatever they want to. I agree
> 100% about emacs. I have better things to do than to memorize all that crap.
> That's why I use the GUI
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:
> IMO, the base system should have vi AND some crappy editor like ae or
> pico, with some note saying "if you can't use vi, then XXX is installed"
s/XXX/ed/
--
Vadim Vygonets * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Unix admin
If you think C++ is not ov
Hi to all...,
I tried to install Debian 1.3 with the 04-04-1997 Disks and ran into
some problems...;-)))
1. I think that the iso9660 filesystem is missing in the fs part of the
module configuration...??? Or did I miss something??
2. fdisk still does not refresh the screen after writing the parti
joost witteveen wrote:
>> Would:
>> dpkg --force-depends --purge svgalib1
>> dpkg --install svgalib-dummy1_1.2.10.deb
>> be the right thing to do?
>I just tried it (I needed a "dpkg -r svgalib1-dev" in between, BTW),
>and it worked OK. (and, gs 3.33 still runs afterwards).
Ok. I just did it, a
>What I did:
>desire:/space/debian/bo/disks-i386/current # cat resc1440.bin >/dev/fd0
>desire:/space/debian/bo/disks-i386/current # md5sum 986c8099396350772a6e43264f145e66
>desire:/space/debian/bo/disks-i386/current # md5sum resc1440.bin
>986c8099396350772a6e43264f145e66 resc1440.bin
I think you
> How do I replace an installed svgalib1 with svgalib-dummy1?
>
> Running "dpkg -i svgalib-dummy1_1.2.10.deb" says this:
[complains]
> And "dpkg --purge svgalib1" complains about a few packages (like gs) that
> depend on svgalib1...
>
> Would:
> dpkg --force-depends --purge svgalib1
> dpkg --
>
> I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
> program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
> things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
> root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Whe
How do I replace an installed svgalib1 with svgalib-dummy1?
Running "dpkg -i svgalib-dummy1_1.2.10.deb" says this:
dpkg: regarding svgalib-dummy1_1.2.10.deb containing svgalib-dummy1:
svgalib-dummy1 conflicts with svgalib1
svgalib1 (version 1:1.2.10-4) is installed.
dpkg: error processing svgal
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Maarten Boekhold wrote:
> > On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
> >
> > > I would love to be able to hit the F3 (view) key in mc
> > > on a .deb file and get a nice summary of control info and status.
> >
>
> I don't know what setup you have, but my installation of mc doe
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Carlo U. Segre wrote:
> The solution that I have used many times is to get the boot floppies from
> the "stable" release and then just install the "unstable" tree from
> dselect. The base system mostly will need to be updated but this works.
Getting the last unstable disks
> On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
>
> > I would love to be able to hit the F3 (view) key in mc
> > on a .deb file and get a nice summary of control info and status.
>
I don't know what setup you have, but my installation of mc does just
this. I have mc_3.2.1-1 here.
Maarten
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
> I would love to be able to hit the F3 (view) key in mc
> on a .deb file and get a nice summary of control info and status.
Last summer I wrote a deb file browser for emacs. Paul's remark reminded
me to remind the list about it again. I'm sure it will be ma
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Mart Klanberg wrote:
>
> Or, if problem is unknown, how can I get the base system from another fs
> (the 'prev. mounted fs'), is it the bo/binary/base/* that it needs? (I
> tar'ed it to dos partition, and copied to /target/bleh/* ... giving him
> /target/bleh/ as the director
I notice that many of the packages tell you that you can run a config
program (gpmconfig, apacheconfig, smailconfig) at a later time to change
things. Shouldn't these be added to menus as part of the install? That way
root could run pdmenu and easily get to a submenu of config tools. Where
user co
Bruce,
Have you posted anything here or elsewhere about your journey to
the "primary" coast? If not, please tell us about it. Did you "debianize"
the audience?
+--+
+ Paul Wade Greenbush Technologie
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
> Sorry. I was watching these vi msgs go back and forth and had to jump in and
> make it worse. I think everyone should use whatever they want to. I agree
> 100% about emacs. I have better things to do than to memorize all that crap.
> That's why I use the GU
I'm new to Debian. I've been waiting for one month to receive the
1.2.4 CD from Cheap Bytes (sent March 3rd arrived April 4th) and I'm
trying with it these days... I would not start waiting for another month
NOW to get a more recent release (and the WEB says they're still selling
1.2.4 CDs).
It is apparent to me that Manoj has stepped into some sort of time warp
here and come back to the present with a good vision of the future. I
think we all should study his work carefully. Many of the points contained
therein lead me to believe he has gone psychic on us. Do I need to wear a
metalli
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Chow Chi-Ming wrote:
> Just wonder what is a good ppp dial-up setup for multiple ISPs. I
> want to be able to choose which ISP to dial up easily (read: without
> having to edit /etc files manually each time I have to switch).
>
> Is there a tool for this?
I can dial up mul
Seth Reinosa wrote:
>
> Lets say there was this guy building a 486 computer for a church intranet
> and he wanted to run Linux.
> Would he :
> A)JUST LOAD LINUX OR:
If he already has his Debian Install boot, Ramdisk, and 3 base install
diskettes, he could just start offf with loading Debian linux
Dear all,
Thanks for those who responded. It seems that one may use the tools
xisp (available as a debian package), ezppp
(http://www.serv.net/~cameron/ezppp/index.html) or Linuxconf for easy
switching of ISP. But does Linuxconf work in harmony with Debian?
Regards,
--
Billy C.-M. Chow <[EMAIL
Ralph Winslow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Teco.
> >
> When you've said teco, you've said it all! vi is superb, and emacs (for
> those who've spent the weeks required to master it) is way cool, but
> teco RULES!!! Anybody out there have the source for the greatest text
> editor cum programmi
On Apr 12, Jason Gunthorpe wrote
> > I have just finished the next version of the package ordering
> > libraries/tool which shall be uploaded tonight to master -- I think I
> > have caught most of the design issues rasied on the lists (I am
> > including the spec below).
>
> Hm, I think we
On 12 Apr 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have just finished the next version of the package ordering
> libraries/tool which shall be uploaded tonight to master -- I think I
> have caught most of the design issues rasied on the lists (I am
> including the spec below).
Hm, I th
The method I use to do this is to create a directory with
multiple configurations stored, and then use a program to
copy the requested config to the current config.
the program multiconfig is used like this.. (rocknet is the
isp name)
# multiconfig /etc/pon/rocknet
which just recurses the direct
Hi,
I have just finished the next version of the package ordering
libraries/tool which shall be uploaded tonight to master -- I think I
have caught most of the design issues rasied on the lists (I am
including the spec below).
I am also including the output of a test ordering r
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
> Where's it at? I'll give it a look. I'm using Afterstep 1.0pre6 right now.
>
> >anyone interested to debianize mlvwm (x-win manager that looks like a
> >mac.)? And... how do you become a maintainer? qualifacations?
The mlvwm can be found at this web address:
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Nils Rennebarth wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Alexander Koch wrote:
> >My problem is that I take the resc1440.bin and write it to disc (with dd)
> >and when it comes to boot it just does nothing and the mbr of /dev/sda
> >(lilo) is taken.
> According to your further mails,
Hi,
When choosing /dev/fd0 to install base system (after successfully
initializing all partitions) install script doesn't seem to give
'/dev/fd0' as parameter to floppy_merge (error message about correct
usage of floppy_merge and another about not being able to extract base
system files from '.'
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Where's it at? I'll give it a look. I'm using Afterstep 1.0pre6 right now.
On 12-Apr-97 A. M. Varon wrote:
>hi to all,
>
>anyone interested to debianize mlvwm (x-win manager that looks like a
>mac.)? And... how do you become a maintainer? qualifacations?
Hav
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim O'Brien) writes:
> What I'm trying to do is get to where I can use X to get some actual work
> done. Right now, as much as I hate to say so, all I can get X to do is nifty
> parlor tricks.
What were you interested in learning? Programming X, or user
configuration details?
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Hahaha...I know exactly what you mean. That's part of the problem I have
now. I used the hold command to put a stop to that and now have to select
file by file to upgrade since nobody seems to know how to clear the status in
dselect.
On 12-Apr-97 George Bonser
hi to all,
anyone interested to debianize mlvwm (x-win manager that looks like a
mac.)? And... how do you become a maintainer? qualifacations?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Andre M. Varon Lasaltech, Incorported
Technical
My harping about remembering selections has to do with selecting to
upgrade something that requires a reboot to take effect or messes the
system up until it IS rebooted. Then not running dselect again for a month
and in the meantime, a newer version of this is uploaded to the FTP site.
You run dse
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I don't know any bookstore books but you can read the FAQ's/HOW-TO's. If you
don't have them try www.linux.org or www.x.org.
You can try fvwm95 or Afterstep for a Window manager. There are others.
These are the ones I think are well done. afterstep.edoc.com f
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On 12-Apr-97 George Bonser wrote:
>
>On second thought, since the required packages are really just a
>continuation of base that is too large to fit on floppies, there really
>does not need to be a menu for that part of the install at all. Base
>would install t
I really would like to learn a lot more about the X-Windows system. I
already have it up and running on my computer, so I have something to mess with.
What I'm trying to do is get to where I can use X to get some actual work
done. Right now, as much as I hate to say so, all I can get X to do is ni
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On 12-Apr-97 Jason Costomiris wrote:
>I never said the various emacsen couldn't do it. I find emacs very
>confusing. 47 bazillion different "modes" to do everything, a googleplex
>of command key sequences, and sucks RAM like it's going out of style.
>Sounds li
On second thought, since the required packages are really just a
continuation of base that is too large to fit on floppies, there really
does not need to be a menu for that part of the install at all. Base
would install then once it is in place, it asks where you want to continue
the installation
The smaller version would have an easier interface, some packages
pre-selected and less chances to get one in trouble at the expense
of having a smaller subset of things to choose from. After it gets
the basics installed (required packages). Then it would launch the
more full-featured version that
> You have to take the good with the bad.
Why?
> It would be nice to have a perfect
> linux distribution but it will never happen.
In that case it seems like the world would be a nicer place if
you could mix-n-match things from different distributions easily.
Unfortunately it isn't all that eas
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, George Bonser wrote:
>
> Just a short suggestion:
>
> Split dselect. A small one (dinstall?) just for installation and a more
> full-featured one for configuration management.
Okay I will bite, Why?
If you have a small dselect then the first thing to be installed would be
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
> I do search and replace in Xemacs all the time. I'm fairly sure that regular
> emacs will do it too.
I never said the various emacsen couldn't do it. I find emacs very
confusing. 47 bazillion different "modes" to do everything, a googleplex
of command key seq
Just a short suggestion:
Split dselect. A small one (dinstall?) just for installation and a more
full-featured one for configuration management.
I am giving .sigs a break this month
George Bonser
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
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>
> I think it was one of the Debian gurus that just sent an email stating that
> it was only the ftp install that had this bug. He'll most likely send you an
> email on this but in case he doesn't get to it for a while I'll s
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I'm not aware of a unhold command but that's the idea. But I used hold more
than once since it didn't put everything on hold for some reason. So the
status has 2 layers of hold and I can't revert to the previous state since
it's the same for the most part.
I
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I think it was one of the Debian gurus that just sent an email stating that
it was only the ftp install that had this bug. He'll most likely send you an
email on this but in case he doesn't get to it for a while I'll say that he
did say it worked fine in the CD
The comments about having to run configure over and over, does this apply
to the cdrom as well ? I have a T! at work, so if there is another way
to install that would be better let me know.
--Jeff
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Rick wrote:
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>
> Sorry. I should have
Was a "New Debian i386 Packages" posted this week on the
debian-changes mailing list?
Paul
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Sorry. I should have been specific. I was talking about the ftp install and
assumed he was too.
On 12-Apr-97 Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
>
>> > Yes. Many have raised the issue of conflicts on install. The answer at
thi
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You have to take the good with the bad. It would be nice to have a perfect
linux distribution but it will never happen. I think all in all Debian is
doing a super job. They're on top of things for the most part. If it's
broke they'll fix it PDQ. Once they kn
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Leslie Mikesell wrote:
> > Yes. Many have raised the issue of conflicts on install. The answer at
> > this
> > point is to run configure over and over. Each time it will install
> > something
> > that is needed to settle the conflicts. The problem is that the selected
>
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Why not just echo > text.file and echo >> text.file??
Or maybe use this to write a small C program that will write the text file?
Just kidding. I know all these things play important roles. I just don't
believe in buying a convertible and never putting the to
> Yes. Many have raised the issue of conflicts on install. The answer at this
> point is to run configure over and over. Each time it will install something
> that is needed to settle the conflicts. The problem is that the selected
> files aren't in dependant order. Hopefully the new project w
Jason Costomiris writes:
> On 11 Apr 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
> >
> > Teco.
>
> Bwah. Real men edit with cat, sed, awk, head and tail. Better yet, they
> write directly to the disk with a hex sector editor.
>
sed, head AND tail? Isn't that
Yes, stay away from Win-anything.
I already cover this in the installation document, excerpted below.
Thanks
Bruce
Windows-specific Hardware
A disturbing trend is the proliferation of "Windows" modems and
printers. In some cases these are specially designed to be opera
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Yes. Many have raised the issue of conflicts on install. The answer at this
point is to run configure over and over. Each time it will install something
that is needed to settle the conflicts. The problem is that the selected
files aren't in dependant order.
> Lets say there was this guy building a 486 computer for a church intranet
> and he wanted to run Linux.
> Would he :
> A)JUST LOAD LINUX OR:
What are you going to us this machine for ?
If you are going to use it for a web server for the intranet,
just load linux.
If you have some other purp
Ok here goes, I looked at the list of stuff available for debian and I
thought I knew a thing or too about Linux until I ordered this debian
cdrom. I run an ISP and a Linux user group. However I just cannot seem
to get debian's dselect correctly. I get through the conflict resolution
and the
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Brian C. White wrote:
> A new list "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" has been created with these people
> subscribed to it. I'm sure I speak for the whole team when I say that we
It seems the new list is not working quite correctly, I sent several
emails to it but recived nothing in reply
On Sat, 12 Apr 1997, Ralf Comtesse wrote:
> Setting up guavac (0.2.6p1-1) ...
> No `START-INFO-DIR-ENTRY' and no `This file documents'.
> install-info: unable to determine description for `dir' entry - giving up
>
> Any workarounds there?
This is telling you it failed to install the emacs info
What does the root disk do these days? When I first installed 1.1
you used the boot, then the root, then the base disks. Last night
I did a fresh 1.2.0 install from some mid-December disks;
the root disk was never used.
Some other things I did notice; they've probably been fixed but
I'll say them
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I would just run Linux. You could use DOS to originally get the install
disks. If you already have them why not just use linux?
As far as the CPU. The system isn't upgraded since there's more to a Pentium
than the CPU. The CPU may be a Pentium but the board
Lets say there was this guy building a 486 computer for a church intranet
and he wanted to run Linux.
Would he :
A)JUST LOAD LINUX OR:
B)LOAD DOS FIRST THEN LINUX
and
can a soldered CPU be unsoldered by a proand upgraded to lets say a 586 or
higher?
This guy has no clue what is going on.
<[EMAIL
Hi Mike!
How does THIS look?
It is my pleasure to announce the formation of the dselect replacement project,
code-named "deity". The project will be made up of the following 7 people:
Project Leader: Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
- General organization, dispute resolution, final say on "capabilities"
Chief Prog
Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote:
>
> > jdk 1.0.2 with no problem, though I am not using it now.
>
> Did you need to install any patches to make it run?
> SuSE delivered a modified classes.zip along with jws, claiming the
> original wouldn't work...
>
no, but you need the linux port jws from blackbur
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Hi,
I just installed bo and it worked very well. Congratulations. There is
one minor problem, though. (the only one with over 50 MB of downloaded
files). I would like to install guavac and get the following message
during configuration:
Setting up guavac (0.2.6
Debian Users,
I removed Nathan from the list, at his albeit loud and rude
request. I've asked him to contact me if he had any further complaints.
I'd like to ask that we as a group not flame him, to prevent further
postings in a similar manner. Hopefully, he'll quietly settle.
Thanks,
THAT'S IT, I HAVE HAD ENOUGH,
IN CASE YOUR DON'T REALIZE, I AM GETTING QUITE
FUCKING PEAVEDAT THIS CONSTANT MASS MAILING, I
DON'T KNOW WHO THE STUPID MOTHER FUCKER WHO SIGNED ME UP FOR THIS STUPID ASS
NEWS GROUP, BUT I WANT OFF IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
I HAVE DELT WITH THIS FUCKING BULLSHI
THAT'S IT, I HAVE HAD ENOUGH,
IN CASE YOUR DON'T REALIZE, I AM GETTING QUITE
FUCKING PEAVEDAT THIS CONSTANT MASS MAILING, I
DON'T KNOW WHO THE STUPID MOTHER FUCKER WHO SIGNED ME UP FOR THIS STUPID ASS
NEWS GROUP, BUT I WANT OFF IT RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
I HAVE DELT WITH THIS FUCKING BULLSHI
> What I missed most, and missed on years of word processors, is the
> trivially easy manner of making compound, repeated, commands.
yes, this is especially important when you consider that editing config
files often requires making substantially the same change to many lines.
the generic examp
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, mike horansky wrote:
> vi is a modal editor, so has a much steeper learning curve than
> something like ae.
modal vs modeless isn't the only criterion for difficulty - there are
many other factors involved.
the more complex things about vi can be difficult to learn, but you
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