newest sendmail packages break STARTTLS...

2003-09-29 Thread Jeff Wiegley
I've been trying to set up a new debian based email server for a client and its a horrible nightmare to get both STARTTLS and AUTH working. Let's just tackle STARTTLS for this message. When ever I try anything in evolution that attempts a STARTTLS I get this evolution error dialog: Error whil

easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-29 Thread Jeff Wiegley
I'm very tired of struggling with sendmail to get it to support STARTTLS and SMTPAUTH under debian. STARTTLS is a pretty easy single include line in the .mc files. but AUTH is a real pain. What is the easiest method (preferrably one that doesn't require sasl) to get AUTH setup so that: 1) non

Re: services installed and running "out of the box"

2003-09-29 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:06:43AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 at 12:53:26PM -0400, Dale Amon wrote: > > Precisely. One cannot just install the packages and services > > one wants. One must step outside the package system to fix > > the problem, and continue to do so the

new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
I've upgraded to bind 9.2.3rc4 because of that new delegation-only feature, and I noticed that bind is opening a new udp port. , | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:43338 0.0.0.0:* 22720/named ` This is new, and didn't happen with 9.2.2. If I restart named,

Re: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-29 Thread Simon Josefsson
Jeff Wiegley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm 100% against sasl in general just for the simple fact that the > developers have chosen to store passwords and user credentials in > PLAINTEXT in a file on the filesystem. (add to that the need to > maintain and synchronize two different databases or

Re: services installed and running "out of the box"

2003-09-29 Thread Adam ENDRODI
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > There is another common case I'd not mentioned. Since I do a lot > of development work, I tend to have a *lot* of servers installed > on my laptop, ready to run, but only when I need them. I do this > entirely manually at present. I'd

Re: MS BS

2003-09-29 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Thomas Horsten disse: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ted Roby wrote: My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. Mine too, i needed to move all my e-mails to a new account (this) 'cause i couldn't hand the flood }:-O And as i use

Re: Versign has hijacked www.xmms.org

2003-09-29 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Hi, + || - it, using I.E. (Hey, i'm using webmail, but i won't say the full name of that s#!+), xmms.org looks 'normal'. But here's the question: Is verisign clearing entrance only for m$ retards..oops, users? Michelle Konzack disse: Hello All, I was surfing the Website

Re: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Jeff Wiegley said on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 06:08:35AM +: > What is the easiest method (preferrably one that doesn't require sasl) > to get AUTH setup so that: > 1) non-STARTTLS connections do NOT offer PLAIN or LOGIN, and > 2) STARTTLS connections do honor PLAIN or LOGIN? > > I'm 100% again

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Norbert Tretkowski said on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 03:34:16PM +0200: > I've upgraded to bind 9.2.3rc4 because of that new delegation-only > feature, and I noticed that bind is opening a new udp port. > > , > | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:43338 0.0.0.0:* > 2272

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Norbert Tretkowski said on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 03:34:16PM +0200: > > I've upgraded to bind 9.2.3rc4 because of that new delegation-only > > feature, and I noticed that bind is opening a new udp port. > > > > , > > | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:4333

Re: Verisign does hijack 'country' domains !!!

2003-09-29 Thread Karl Hammar
> Am 2003-09-28 13:33:02, schrieb Mike Hommey: > >On Sunday 28 September 2003 12:22, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Sice some hours I have tried to access some governement servers > >> without success all Servers are ending in .fr or .gov.fr > > > >http://chezmoicamarche.org/ >

Re: Verisign does hijack 'country' domains !!!

2003-09-29 Thread C. Barbaux
Karl Hammar a écrit : Sehr geehrte Frau Michelle, Guten Abend, (good evening for those who don't speak a word of German) ich habe ihre DNS servern geprüft, aber sie antworte nicht: $ host wendy.djo.tudelft.nl 193.252.19.3 Nameserver 193.252.19.3 not responding wendy.djo.tudelft.nl A record

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Norbert Tretkowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:43338 0.0.0.0:* > 22720/named BIND binds to a socket for outgoing querys. But he already did that in 9.2.2 (at least he does here). Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > BIND binds to a socket for outgoing querys. But he already did that in > 9.2.2 (at least he does here). Looks like BIND doesn't open a socket for outgoing queries when it's running only as a forwarder. -- - nobse

Re: Versign has hijacked www.xmms.org

2003-09-29 Thread Bradley M Alexander
Well, since Verisign doesn't own the .org zone, and has only wildcarded com and net, I would say the answer would be "no." On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:30:45PM -0300, Fabricio Cannini Flores wrote: > Hi, > > + || - it, using I.E. (Hey, i'm using webmail, but i won't say the full > name of that s

Re: services installed and running "out of the box"

2003-09-29 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:06:43AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 at 12:53:26PM -0400, Dale Amon wrote: > > Precisely. One cannot just install the packages and services > > one wants. One must step outside the package system to fix > > the problem, and continue to do so the

new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
I've upgraded to bind 9.2.3rc4 because of that new delegation-only feature, and I noticed that bind is opening a new udp port. , | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:43338 0.0.0.0:* 22720/named ` This is new, and didn't happen with 9.2.2. If I restart named,

Re: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-29 Thread Simon Josefsson
Jeff Wiegley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm 100% against sasl in general just for the simple fact that the > developers have chosen to store passwords and user credentials in > PLAINTEXT in a file on the filesystem. (add to that the need to > maintain and synchronize two different databases or

Re: services installed and running "out of the box"

2003-09-29 Thread Adam ENDRODI
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > There is another common case I'd not mentioned. Since I do a lot > of development work, I tend to have a *lot* of servers installed > on my laptop, ready to run, but only when I need them. I do this > entirely manually at present. I'd

Re: MS BS

2003-09-29 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Thomas Horsten disse: On Mon, 22 Sep 2003, Ted Roby wrote: My secalert account for these lists is being drenched with 40 to 70 of these fake Microsoft Update emails per day. Mine too, i needed to move all my e-mails to a new account (this) 'cause i couldn't hand the flood }:-O And as i use web

Re: Versign has hijacked www.xmms.org

2003-09-29 Thread Fabricio Cannini Flores
Hi, + || - it, using I.E. (Hey, i'm using webmail, but i won't say the full name of that s#!+), xmms.org looks 'normal'. But here's the question: Is verisign clearing entrance only for m$ retards..oops, users? Michelle Konzack disse: Hello All, I was surfing the Website

Re: easiest way to configure STARTTLS and PAM/AUTH on debian sendmail?

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Jeff Wiegley said on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 06:08:35AM +: > What is the easiest method (preferrably one that doesn't require sasl) > to get AUTH setup so that: > 1) non-STARTTLS connections do NOT offer PLAIN or LOGIN, and > 2) STARTTLS connections do honor PLAIN or LOGIN? > > I'm 100% again

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Norbert Tretkowski said on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 03:34:16PM +0200: > I've upgraded to bind 9.2.3rc4 because of that new delegation-only > feature, and I noticed that bind is opening a new udp port. > > , > | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:43338 0.0.0.0:* > 2272

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Norbert Tretkowski said on Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 03:34:16PM +0200: > > I've upgraded to bind 9.2.3rc4 because of that new delegation-only > > feature, and I noticed that bind is opening a new udp port. > > > > , > > | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:4333

Re: Verisign does hijack 'country' domains !!!

2003-09-29 Thread Karl Hammar
> Am 2003-09-28 13:33:02, schrieb Mike Hommey: > >On Sunday 28 September 2003 12:22, Michelle Konzack wrote: > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Sice some hours I have tried to access some governement servers > >> without success all Servers are ending in .fr or .gov.fr > > > >http://chezmoicamarche.org/ >

Re: Verisign does hijack 'country' domains !!!

2003-09-29 Thread C. Barbaux
Karl Hammar a écrit : Sehr geehrte Frau Michelle, Guten Abend, (good evening for those who don't speak a word of German) ich habe ihre DNS servern geprüft, aber sie antworte nicht: $ host wendy.djo.tudelft.nl 193.252.19.3 Nameserver 193.252.19.3 not responding wendy.djo.tudelft.nl A record not

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Christoph Moench-Tegeder
## Norbert Tretkowski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > | udp0 0 0.0.0.0:43338 0.0.0.0:* > 22720/named BIND binds to a socket for outgoing querys. But he already did that in 9.2.2 (at least he does here). Regards, Christoph -- Spare Space -- To UNSUBSC

Re: new open udp port with bind 9.2.3rc

2003-09-29 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > BIND binds to a socket for outgoing querys. But he already did that in > 9.2.2 (at least he does here). Looks like BIND doesn't open a socket for outgoing queries when it's running only as a forwarder. -- - nobse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Versign has hijacked www.xmms.org

2003-09-29 Thread Bradley M Alexander
Well, since Verisign doesn't own the .org zone, and has only wildcarded com and net, I would say the answer would be "no." On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:30:45PM -0300, Fabricio Cannini Flores wrote: > Hi, > > + || - it, using I.E. (Hey, i'm using webmail, but i won't say the full > name of that s