Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-11-03 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Nov 04, 2005 at 01:19:36AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > But also somewhat wrong: a black-box test is much cheaper than a full > security audit of a system. Well, I guess you mean "port scan". A Tiger Team who helps your security is most often quite expensive cause it take

Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-11-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 11:14:22PM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > I'm looking for (preferably) a company, or individual, to attempt to > > breach a standard config I have created to deploy client applications > > in production. It is intentionally a

Re: whitehat

2005-11-03 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 05:33:54PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote: > > The whole point of the test will be for me to monitor what's happening > > that you should already be seeing all the attacks you are already > getitng just by the generic background white-noise-attacks > - and its free ... and d

Re: whitehat

2005-11-02 Thread alex black
Perhaps I should rephrase: Is there any company or individual on this list that provides penetration testing services, can provide a sample report and sample engagement contract with specific terms, has performed penetration testing on debian servers running public-facing applications in the

Re: whitehat

2005-11-02 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya alex - lots of options .. too too too many ... but bottom line ... you have to do the work .. not the outside white-hat you're looking for On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, alex black wrote: > Not much, frankly. The idea here is to have someone that is not > malicious, but is skilled, to attempt

Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-11-02 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I'm looking for (preferably) a company, or individual, to attempt to > breach a standard config I have created to deploy client applications > in production. It is intentionally a minimal config which is tightly > locked down and audited daily. I thin

Re: whitehat

2005-11-02 Thread alex black
--- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > questions for you > - what else is in the goals for the security test, > where i'm not > using audit, pen-test, assessments and other > "security words" Just to see if you can get in, that's all. > - what i

Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-11-02 Thread Rob Burgers
- Original Message - From: "Harry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:48 AM Subject: Re: whitehat to test a security config --- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: questions for you - what else is in the goals for the

Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-11-01 Thread Alvin Oga
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Harry wrote: > Perhaps the following questions should be asked first > > 1. How do we know know Mr Black is who he says he is? > 2. How can we confirm the machine details he supplies > are actually details of a machine that he owns? ... all valid points .. - a face to face

Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-11-01 Thread Harry
--- Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > questions for you > > - what else is in the goals for the security test, > where i'm not > using audit, pen-test, assessments and other > "security words" > > - what is the consequence if some > whitehat

Re: whitehat to test a security config

2005-10-31 Thread Alvin Oga
t to know when doing a "security test", why use that restriction for the "security tests" script kiddies "tools" are just that, meant for the low lying fruits due to the sheer number of machines out there for ez hits questions for you - what else is

whitehat to test a security config

2005-10-31 Thread alex black
a report on findings, with a limited overview of techniques and tools used. Please send any questions & proposals to me off-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please include "whitehat:" in the subject :) thanks, _alex -- alex black, founder the turing studio, inc. 510.666.0074 [EMAIL PR