On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jean-Francois Dive wrote:
> i reckon that the real point is: if your users have access to the network
> from their account with whatever tools or have access to an editor and gcc,
> all of your efforts are gone: just need to use your own copy of
> whatever_tool_they_like.
If
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002, Jean-Francois Dive wrote:
> i reckon that the real point is: if your users have access to the network
> from their account with whatever tools or have access to an editor and gcc,
> all of your efforts are gone: just need to use your own copy of
>whatever_tool_they_like.
If
i reckon that the real point is: if your users have access to the network
from their account with whatever tools or have access to an editor and gcc,
all of your efforts are gone: just need to use your own copy of
whatever_tool_they_like.
If you want to avoid them to go some places, simply use th
i reckon that the real point is: if your users have access to the network
from their account with whatever tools or have access to an editor and gcc,
all of your efforts are gone: just need to use your own copy of
whatever_tool_they_like.
If you want to avoid them to go some places, simply use t
also sprach Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.2008 +0200]:
> It uses the telnet protocol, not just a raw TCP connection, so netcat is
> inadequate.
netcat can negotiate telnet connections with the -t option. unless you
are using very ancient terminal types, netcat is a complete substitu
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:47:32PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I just had an idea the other, er..., night, that still seemed smart when
> I woke up, so I figured I'll post it here in case it is... :-)
>
> The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
also sprach Peter Cordes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.2008 +0200]:
> It uses the telnet protocol, not just a raw TCP connection, so netcat is
> inadequate.
netcat can negotiate telnet connections with the -t option. unless you
are using very ancient terminal types, netcat is a complete substit
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 12:47:32PM +0200, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I just had an idea the other, er..., night, that still seemed smart when
> I woke up, so I figured I'll post it here in case it is... :-)
>
> The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
please don't CC me on lists that I read!
also sprach Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.1402 +0200]:
> Oh, wasn't that the point with the harden-clients package? If you
> attempt to install a Bad[tm] client, you will be told, because it
> conflicts with harden-clients?
Oh, now I un
hi ya
if the machines are hardened and so are the network..
if you attempt to do something like telnet,ftp,ppp,pop3s,dhcp...
it just wotn connect/work ...
- firewall will drop those services
becauses its "against policy"
if the admin is NOT notified/emailed/paged ..
than the sy
On Tuesday 08 October 2002 13:57, martin f krafft wrote:
> Use netcat for that.
[*hm, man netcat*] Yeah, OK, thanks, I didn't know about that.
> > That way, people with correct privileges could still use telnet for
> > sensible things, yet the admin would be warned if they did
> > something very
also sprach Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.1247 +0200]:
> The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
> anything, but that it shouldn't be used by somebody. It is quite OK to
> use to check what the webserver responds to a particular request, for
> ex
please don't CC me on lists that I read!
also sprach Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.1402 +0200]:
> Oh, wasn't that the point with the harden-clients package? If you
> attempt to install a Bad[tm] client, you will be told, because it
> conflicts with harden-clients?
Oh, now I u
Hi folks!
I just had an idea the other, er..., night, that still seemed smart when
I woke up, so I figured I'll post it here in case it is... :-)
The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
anything, but that it shouldn't be used by somebody. It is quite OK to
use t
hi ya
if the machines are hardened and so are the network..
if you attempt to do something like telnet,ftp,ppp,pop3s,dhcp...
it just wotn connect/work ...
- firewall will drop those services
becauses its "against policy"
if the admin is NOT notified/emailed/paged ..
than the s
On Tuesday 08 October 2002 13:57, martin f krafft wrote:
> Use netcat for that.
[*hm, man netcat*] Yeah, OK, thanks, I didn't know about that.
> > That way, people with correct privileges could still use telnet for
> > sensible things, yet the admin would be warned if they did
> > something ver
also sprach Kjetil Kjernsmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.10.08.1247 +0200]:
> The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
> anything, but that it shouldn't be used by somebody. It is quite OK to
> use to check what the webserver responds to a particular request, for
> e
Hi folks!
I just had an idea the other, er..., night, that still seemed smart when
I woke up, so I figured I'll post it here in case it is... :-)
The problem with e.g. telnet isn't really that it shouldn't be used for
anything, but that it shouldn't be used by somebody. It is quite OK to
use
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