Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:38, Arthur Machlas wrote: >> Forward all mail to a gmail account, then forward back to Debian's >> list-servs. Spam problem solved. > > except Debian pushes hard for their outbound mail host to be > whitelisted...  w

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Guys, this is all spam to me. It's coming to the point where I just want to usubscribe rather then keep watching this ridiculous flame war. Let's be big boys and gals and stop fighting. On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:38, Arthur Machlas wrote: >

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 17:38, Arthur Machlas wrote: > Forward all mail to a gmail account, then forward back to Debian's > list-servs. Spam problem solved. except Debian pushes hard for their outbound mail host to be whitelisted... which is also a reason the default Spamassassin will generally n

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Arthur Machlas
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:31 PM, CaT wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:23:03PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: >> Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and >> debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. >> Moreover i see that in my spam

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread CaT
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 02:23:03PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote: > Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and > debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. > Moreover i see that in my spam folder i have like 3-7 spam messages per > hour.

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 09:49, Roger Hanna wrote: > Ok Folks, really, your mails about the spam are starting to actually spam! > > Wait, this email is then also considered a spam about spamming. > > You just can't win. Good thing the FOSS ppl don't think like that. -Jim P. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

RE: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Roger Hanna
Ok Folks, really, your mails about the spam are starting to actually spam! Wait, this email is then also considered a spam about spamming. You just can't win. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-security-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2010/7/5 Wojciech Ziniewicz : > 2010/7/5 Bjoern Meier > Personally i get 0-5 spam messages per month from the debian-isp and > debian-security list that are not filtered and appear as non-spam messages. > Moreover i see that in my spam folder i have like 3-7 spam messages per > hour. > What'

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Eliad B
On 07/05/2010 04:19 PM, Bjoern Meier wrote: > hi, > > 2010/7/5 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI : > . No system will ever be 100% accurate > >> and filter all spams. >> > Right. But less then 99.8% - for a private system (which the list is > not) - is not tolerable. Can the list track how spam is block

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
2010/7/5 Bjoern Meier > hi, > > 2010/7/5 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI : > . No system will ever be 100% accurate > > and filter all spams. > > Right. But less then 99.8% - for a private system (which the list is > not) - is not tolerable. Can the list track how spam is blocked and - > maybe - an overview

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Bjoern Meier
hi, 2010/7/5 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI : . No system will ever be 100% accurate > and filter all spams. Right. But less then 99.8% - for a private system (which the list is not) - is not tolerable. Can the list track how spam is blocked and - maybe - an overview how effective this is (like graphs over

Re: Spam fighting

2010-07-05 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Dom, 04 Jul 2010, Jim Popovitch wrote: I beleive d.o can (and should) attempt to block 100% of spam. While I'm in no way associated with Debian mailing list management, I'm pretty certain they do attempt to block 100% of spam. But attempting it and achieving it are two different things.