Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jonas Andradas
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 17:47, Andrew McGlashan < andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > > > Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: > >> Correct me if I'm wrong but Mandos only works on a LAN according to the >> technical overview ( >> http://wiki.fukt.bsnet.se/wiki/Mandos#Architectural_Overview

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong but Mandos only works on a LAN according to the technical overview (http://wiki.fukt.bsnet.se/wiki/Mandos#Architectural_Overview). Just a LAN or can it be ANY routeable address, via the Internet? This assumes that the network connectivit

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
VAN - Original Message - From: "Andrew McGlashan" To: "Jonas Andradas" Cc: "Thomas Nguyen Van" , "Jeroen van Dongen" , debian-security@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:53:54 PM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockh

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 24 Jan 2011, Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: > Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under Linux > Debian Lenny. If you're serious about this, get a real server (HP, IBM, Dell...) with proper TPM hardware and Linux support. Then, you'll need to do the (not that easy)

RE: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun., 2011-01-24 at 08:27 +, Jeroen van Dongen wrote: > If your server can reboot without a human being present to enter a > password, what's to stop someone who steals your server to obtain > access to the data? > > > The FDE does NOT protect your data against hackers - if they hack you

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi Jonas, Jonas Andradas wrote: however, having to start up the Mandos server in order for the host to start-up could defeat the purpose of Mandos itself, which is supposed to allow servers to start up autonomously, without human intervention. Of course, you could always have your monitoring

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jonas Andradas
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:06, Andrew McGlashan < andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote: > Jonas Andradas wrote: > >> In particular, both "mandos" and "mandos-client" have Debian packages >> available. >> >> [1] http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/mandos >> > > That sounds interesting, but why not ru

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jonas Andradas
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 11:22, Jeroen van Dongen wrote: > > Hello Thomas, > > > > as Jeroen already said, the problem with this is that if they steal only > the hard-drive, the data should be safe. Instead, if they steal the > whole > server (which is somewhat harder, but not impossible), they o

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Jonas Andradas wrote: In particular, both "mandos" and "mandos-client" have Debian packages available. [1] http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/mandos That sounds interesting, but why not run the Mandos server ONLY when you are restarting machines. The Mandos server could be a tiny VM or even a boot f

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
o: "Thomas Nguyen Van" , "Jonas Andradas" Cc: debian-security@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 11:22:13 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: RE: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian L

RE: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jeroen van Dongen
      > Hello Thomas,  >   > as Jeroen already said, the problem with this is that if they steal only the > hard-drive, the data should be safe. Instead, if they steal the > whole > server (which is somewhat harder, but not impossible), they only need it to > boot and the BIOS would decrypt the

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jonas Andradas
.nguyen...@jumper.ie> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:27:38 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / > Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna > Subject: RE: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under > Linux Debian Lenny > > If your server can reboot without a human being

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
Morning Matthieu, Thanks for your quick feedback much appreciated ! ^_^ Indeed, the FDE solution depends on your motherboard's technology and can't be implement on any standard motherboard. :o) Thanks a lot for your help on this. Thomas NGUYEN VAN - Original Message - From: "Mathie

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 09:31:33AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > However, this solution only works under windows !! They don't plan to > > support under linux such a disk. :o( > > If everything is handled by the BIOS, why would it be OS-dependent? I'd have thought this is because the BIOS h

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
Perez" To: debian-security@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 9:31:33 AM GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Bern / Rome / Stockholm / Vienna Subject: Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny On lun., 2011-01-24 at 08:14 +, Thomas N

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Thomas Nguyen Van
Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny RE: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny If your server can reboot without a human being present to enter a password, what's to stop someone who steals your server to obtain access to the data?

RE: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Jeroen van Dongen
If your server can reboot without a human being present to enter a password, what's to stop someone who steals your server to obtain access to the data?    The FDE does NOT protect your data against hackers - if they hack your running system, they have access to all data that your application ha

Re: Question related to FDE (Full Disk Encryption) solution under Linux Debian Lenny

2011-01-24 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On lun., 2011-01-24 at 08:14 +, Thomas Nguyen Van wrote: > Good morning > Our company needs to encrypt hard drives on our machines running under > Linux Debian Lenny. > Seagate proposes FDE solutions with Momentus 5400 and/or 7200 > (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/fr-FR/whitepaper/mb595_2_mom