Re: Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-06-29 Thread lkcl
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 1:46 PM Ravi Dwivedi wrote: > Since the below mentioned analysis of Debian's security, and that too > compared to other distros, is not very well-known outside of Debian > project honestly i don't believe it's even widely known *in* the debian project [quite how damn good

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-25 Thread piorunz
Hi Paul, On 25/05/2022 02:10, Paul Wise wrote: bullseye-updates: receives occasional time-sensitive and important updates, such as updates to the timezone database, which often happen just days before the timezone changes, or fixes for packages that get completely broken by some external servic

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, 2022-05-24 at 16:27 +0100, piorunz wrote: > Important note: Disabling bullseye-updates is actually causing > point-release updates to be delivered on one, predetermined date, > bundled all together. By disabling this entry you still get them all, > but in controlled fashion, you are not "b

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-24 Thread piorunz
On 23/05/2022 19:59, Adam McKenna wrote: You are talking about a deterrent though.  I think the question is, what if someone cares more about their political cause than retaining their uploader access? What if someone's keys are compromised and an attacker uploads a compromised package? Debian

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread lkcl
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 7:59 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > You are talking about a deterrent though. I think the question is, > what if someone cares more about their political cause than > retaining their uploader access? they get one and only one chance to do something that stupid. > What if someo

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> they get one and only one chance to do something that stupid. So the answer is that we have no way of preventing a developer from intentionally sabotaging a package in any / as many ways as they choose and the only risk to them is losing their uploader access after the fact? >the response is sw

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> anyone stupid enough to abuse their position may only do so once, at which point their GPG key is revoked. You are talking about a deterrent though. I think the question is, what if someone cares more about their political cause than retaining their uploader access? What if someone's keys are

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread lkcl
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:28 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > > > i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed > > trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro > > in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring dating > > back

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring dating back 20 years that is itself GPG-signed as a package, with a package distrib

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-18 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
> i did the analysis (took 3 weeks) Do you have a publication of that analysis? I was thinking the same about the organization of Debian for some time but never did analysis or compared it to other distros. Also I like to add that reproducible builds are an excellent addition to the mechanisms yo

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-04-17 Thread lkcl
On 17/04/2022 19:26, Satvik Sinha wrote: > abusing your OS's reputation? i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring datin