Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-27 Thread Peter Cordes
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 09:12:16AM +, Sergio Brandano wrote: > > Of course, you could also implement something like a bulletin board > > on HTTP over SSL instead... or maybe SMTP over SSL to each individual > > list subscriber. (insecure; most subscribers don't run their own mail > > server) >

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On 26-May-2000 Alexander Hvostov wrote: > Bradley, > > Uhm, isn't Sendmail's SMTP-over-SSL thing supposed to conform to some > standard..? I seriously doubt the other endpoint has to be > Sendmail; rather, I think it probably only needs to be running a proper > SMTP-over-SSL implementation. If th

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Ethan, No. RSA does. And they have the agreement of enough people (whereas MS doesn't) to push the feds into sticking to relaxed crypto export controls. "Remember, if you don't keep the crypto laws relaxed, none of us will vote for you... nor will our supporters." Regards, Alex. --- PGP/GPG F

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 02:37:59AM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > Ethan, > > Only one problem. Charlie Brown doesn't have hordes of lawyers. and the Free software movement does? MS has hoards of lawyers and billions of dollors and even they are not escaping the US govt ;-) -- Ethan Benson

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Ethan, Only one problem. Charlie Brown doesn't have hordes of lawyers. Regards, Alex. --- PGP/GPG Fingerprint: EFD1 AC6C 7ED5 E453 C367 AC7A B474 16E0 758D 7ED9 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCM d- s:+ a--- C UL P L+++ E W++ N o-- K- w O--- M- V- PS+ PE- Y PGP t+ 5 X

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 02:19:06AM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > Ethan, and everyone, > > I seem to keep having to repeat myself: the USA recently relaxed its > crypto export controls. I'm not certain if that means I can download > OpenSSL and then send it to someone in country here>, but I b

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Sergio, It would be useless to try and use SSL for debian-security, because it is a publicly accessible list, which sort of defeats the purpose of SSL... Regards, Alex. --- PGP/GPG Fingerprint: EFD1 AC6C 7ED5 E453 C367 AC7A B474 16E0 758D 7ED9 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 G

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Ethan, and everyone, I seem to keep having to repeat myself: the USA recently relaxed its crypto export controls. I'm not certain if that means I can download OpenSSL and then send it to someone in , but I believe I can. Regards, Alex. --- PGP/GPG Fingerprint: EFD1 AC6C 7ED5 E453 C367 AC7A B

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Ben White
We'll soon be getting braindead crypto laws in the UK if the RIP bill goes through. RIP details at http://www.stand.org.uk/ On Fri, 26 May 2000, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > Sergio, > > That's what GPG and a good MUA like Pine is for. Let's see "Big > Brother" crack 1024-bit public key crypto a

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Sergio Brandano
Alexander Hvostov wrote > ...Unless you encrypt to a public key belonging to everyone on the > mailing list, which certainly can be done, though this means > distributing the appropriate public/private key pair, so the keys > themselves would also have to be encrypted, probably to each > individ

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Ethan Benson
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 12:19:33AM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > Sergio, > > That's what GPG and a good MUA like Pine is for. Let's see "Big > Brother" crack 1024-bit public key crypto anytime this decade... > > I know you can't legally do this in France; if you have a desire for your > email

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Julien, The US has relaxed its crypto export laws. I understand crypto can be exported freely now, though I'm not going to try that until I have a nice lawyer to talk to... Regards, Alex. --- PGP/GPG Fingerprint: EFD1 AC6C 7ED5 E453 C367 AC7A B474 16E0 758D 7ED9 -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK--

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Julien Stern
On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 12:19:33AM -0700, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > Sergio, > > That's what GPG and a good MUA like Pine is for. Let's see "Big > Brother" crack 1024-bit public key crypto anytime this decade... > > I know you can't legally do this in France; if you have a desire for your > email

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Bradley, Uhm, isn't Sendmail's SMTP-over-SSL thing supposed to conform to some standard..? I seriously doubt the other endpoint has to be Sendmail; rather, I think it probably only needs to be running a proper SMTP-over-SSL implementation. If this is the case, then this can be done with stunnel an

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Daniel, ...Unless you encrypt to a public key belonging to everyone on the mailing list, which certainly can be done, though this means distributing the appropriate public/private key pair, so the keys themselves would also have to be encrypted, probably to each individual user. Of course, you co

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-26 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Sergio, That's what GPG and a good MUA like Pine is for. Let's see "Big Brother" crack 1024-bit public key crypto anytime this decade... I know you can't legally do this in France; if you have a desire for your email to be private, then I suggest moving to a country whose crypto policies are not

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-25 Thread balexander
Sendmail is also beginning to address this issue. 8.11.x is supposed to include SSL code to do end-to-end encryption. However, this still leaves an opening at the destination host for snooping. Aside from that, this assumes that both ends are using sendmail 8.11, which is a pipe dream for a while t

Re: On the security of e-mails

2000-05-25 Thread Daniel Taylor
The closest reliable method in that area is PGP encryption of e-mail. In theory only those people who have the message signed with their public key will be able to read it. In practice I haven't heard otherwise. The only place where it isn't appropriate to encrypt (maybe only sign) is on public

On the security of e-mails

2000-05-25 Thread Sergio Brandano
I would like to raise the problem of the security of electronic mail. The problem popped into my mind a while ago, while reading about Italian legislation on the privacy and, in particular, of paper mail. I always wanted to draw the issue to the attention of the ``hi spheres'', but I am now i