Re: OPIE and S/Key authentication

2007-08-19 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Mon, Aug 20, 2007 at 09:57:38AM +0400, Stanislav Maslovski wrote: > On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 10:51:51AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Stanislav Maslovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > What do you say, can MD5-based OPIE system be still considered secure?

Re: OPIE and S/Key authentication

2007-08-19 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 10:51:51AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Stanislav Maslovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What do you say, can MD5-based OPIE system be still considered secure? > > In the repository there are opie-server and opie-client. > > > Do I u

Re: OPIE and S/Key authentication

2007-08-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Stanislav Maslovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What do you say, can MD5-based OPIE system be still considered secure? > In the repository there are opie-server and opie-client. > Do I understand right that the strength of this system is the strength of > one step of

OPIE and S/Key authentication

2007-08-19 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
Hello, What do you say, can MD5-based OPIE system be still considered secure? In the repository there are opie-server and opie-client. Do I understand right that the strength of this system is the strength of one step of MD5? Are there any alternatives where a different hashing function can be

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-14 Thread Geoff Crompton
t; > workaround to provide similar functionality? > > I think you have to turn off PrivSep to make this work. > > M I have succesfully configued sshd to allow opie logons, without disabling PrivSep, by configuring pam to use the libpam-opie module for ssh. In this case the use

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Bradley Alexander said on Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:36:06AM -0400: > I tried to set this up again recently on another machine, and found that > privelege separation breaks this functionality. Does anyone know of a > workaround to provide similar functionality? I think you have to turn off PrivSep to

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-14 Thread Michael Stone
. Long answer: libpam-opie works fine today if you set "privilegeseperation no" and "pamauthenticationviakbdint yes" in your sshd_config file. The downside to doing that is that you increase your exposure in the event of certain ssh exploits. There are patches to ssh that allow

ssh + opie?

2003-08-14 Thread Bradley Alexander
A long time ago, I had Openssh (circa 2.5-ish) set up to work with opie so that if a user attempted to log in without keys, instead of a pasword prompt, it would give an opie/skey login prompt. I tried to set this up again recently on another machine, and found that privelege separation breaks

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-14 Thread Greg Norris
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 04:21:50PM +1000, Geoff Crompton wrote: > I have succesfully configued sshd to allow opie logons, without > disabling PrivSep, by configuring pam to use the libpam-opie > module for ssh. > In this case the user gets the normal password prompt though, a

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-14 Thread Bradley Alexander
Which opens up a whole 'nother can of security worms...Is anyone maintaining opie or s/key? Or for that matter, can something like this even be worked around? On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:55:16 -0700 Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bradley Alexander said on Fri, Aug 08, 2003

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-10 Thread Geoff Crompton
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0500, Greg Norris wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 04:21:50PM +1000, Geoff Crompton wrote: > > I have succesfully configued sshd to allow opie logons, without > > disabling PrivSep, by configuring pam to use the libpam-opie > > module f

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-10 Thread Geoff Crompton
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0500, Greg Norris wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 04:21:50PM +1000, Geoff Crompton wrote: > > I have succesfully configued sshd to allow opie logons, without > > disabling PrivSep, by configuring pam to use the libpam-opie > > module f

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-08 Thread Greg Norris
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 04:21:50PM +1000, Geoff Crompton wrote: > I have succesfully configued sshd to allow opie logons, without > disabling PrivSep, by configuring pam to use the libpam-opie > module for ssh. > In this case the user gets the normal password prompt though, a

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
ssh. Long answer: libpam-opie works fine today if you set "privilegeseperation no" and "pamauthenticationviakbdint yes" in your sshd_config file. The downside to doing that is that you increase your exposure in the event of certain ssh exploits. There are patches to ssh that

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-08 Thread Geoff Crompton
t; > workaround to provide similar functionality? > > I think you have to turn off PrivSep to make this work. > > M I have succesfully configued sshd to allow opie logons, without disabling PrivSep, by configuring pam to use the libpam-opie module for ssh. In this case the use

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-08 Thread Bradley Alexander
Which opens up a whole 'nother can of security worms...Is anyone maintaining opie or s/key? Or for that matter, can something like this even be worked around? On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:55:16 -0700 Mark Ferlatte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bradley Alexander said on Fri, Aug 08, 2003

Re: ssh + opie?

2003-08-08 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Bradley Alexander said on Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:36:06AM -0400: > I tried to set this up again recently on another machine, and found that > privelege separation breaks this functionality. Does anyone know of a > workaround to provide similar functionality? I think you have to turn off PrivSep to

ssh + opie?

2003-08-08 Thread Bradley Alexander
A long time ago, I had Openssh (circa 2.5-ish) set up to work with opie so that if a user attempted to log in without keys, instead of a pasword prompt, it would give an opie/skey login prompt. I tried to set this up again recently on another machine, and found that privelege separation breaks

Re: OPIE

2003-03-27 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Cyrus Dantes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've already installed opie-client and opie-server and already used > opiepasswd to generate my OTP keys > and such. I have verified my login is in /etc/opiekeys and other such needed > items. Now i was wondering > how i co

Re: OPIE

2003-03-27 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Cyrus Dantes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've already installed opie-client and opie-server and already used opiepasswd to > generate my OTP keys > and such. I have verified my login is in /etc/opiekeys and other such needed items. > Now i was wondering > how i co

OPIE

2003-03-27 Thread Cyrus Dantes
I've already installed opie-client and opie-server and already used opiepasswd to generate my OTP keys and such. I have verified my login is in /etc/opiekeys and other such needed items. Now i was wondering how i could make OpenSSH 3.5 accept my OTP passwords. Any ideas on how to make

OPIE

2003-03-27 Thread Cyrus Dantes
I've already installed opie-client and opie-server and already used opiepasswd to generate my OTP keys and such. I have verified my login is in /etc/opiekeys and other such needed items. Now i was wondering how i could make OpenSSH 3.5 accept my OTP passwords. Any ideas on how to make

opie: configuring server to use particular hash

2002-08-13 Thread sen_ml
Hi, I'm trying to get opie-server|libpam-opie to use sha1 instead of md5, but I haven't figured out how to do this on the server end. For the client end, the -s option seems to be what to use w/ opiekey (though this doesn't appear to be in the man pages...). Has anyone figured

Re: deploying pam-opie?

2002-05-19 Thread Will Aoki
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:46:10PM -0400, Bradley Alexander wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm trying to get pam-opie working with openssh, but I guess I'm not > getting the hang of it. I think I have all of the packages installed: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] storm]$ dpkg -l |

deploying pam-opie?

2002-05-19 Thread Bradley Alexander
Hey all, I'm trying to get pam-opie working with openssh, but I guess I'm not getting the hang of it. I think I have all of the packages installed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] storm]$ dpkg -l | grep opie ii libpam-opie0.21-7 Use OTP's for PAM authentication ii opie-cli

Re: deploying pam-opie?

2002-05-19 Thread Will Aoki
On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 11:46:10PM -0400, Bradley Alexander wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm trying to get pam-opie working with openssh, but I guess I'm not > getting the hang of it. I think I have all of the packages installed: > > [storm@defiant storm]$ dpkg -l |

deploying pam-opie?

2002-05-19 Thread Bradley Alexander
Hey all, I'm trying to get pam-opie working with openssh, but I guess I'm not getting the hang of it. I think I have all of the packages installed: [storm@defiant storm]$ dpkg -l | grep opie ii libpam-opie0.21-7 Use OTP's for PAM authentication ii opie-cli

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-19 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Carlos, Hi List! On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Carlos Carvalho wrote: > Lots of people are replying about the advantages/disadvantages of > using ssh **OR** otp. I fully agree; in fact I installed both here. > > What I said is that it's nonsense to use ssh **AND** otp at the same > time, for the same

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-19 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Lots of people are replying about the advantages/disadvantages of using ssh **OR** otp. I fully agree; in fact I installed both here. What I said is that it's nonsense to use ssh **AND** otp at the same time, for the same login. If I understood correctly, Peter's setup of ssh-pam would use otp for

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-19 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Carlos, Hi List! On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Carlos Carvalho wrote: > Lots of people are replying about the advantages/disadvantages of > using ssh **OR** otp. I fully agree; in fact I installed both here. > > What I said is that it's nonsense to use ssh **AND** otp at the same > time, for the same

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-19 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Lots of people are replying about the advantages/disadvantages of using ssh **OR** otp. I fully agree; in fact I installed both here. What I said is that it's nonsense to use ssh **AND** otp at the same time, for the same login. If I understood correctly, Peter's setup of ssh-pam would use otp fo

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Carlos Carvalho | I don't see the point of using ssh with otp. They are different | methods to achieve the same goal, and are redundant. No they are not. Unless you are using RSA/DSA authentication, your password goes over the wire. Encrypted, yes, but the server knows your password. And, i

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-19 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Carlos Carvalho | I don't see the point of using ssh with otp. They are different | methods to achieve the same goal, and are redundant. No they are not. Unless you are using RSA/DSA authentication, your password goes over the wire. Encrypted, yes, but the server knows your password. And,

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Breton
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:18:05PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > Yeah, those do solve the worst problem with OPIE. There's nothing wrong with > OTPs when properly designed (i.e.: no sheets of paper ;-) ), but since the > original poster was talking about OPIE... Using OPIE do

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
also. Yeah, those do solve the worst problem with OPIE. There's nothing wrong with OTPs when properly designed (i.e.: no sheets of paper ;-) ), but since the original poster was talking about OPIE... -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Thorsten Sideb0ard
he intruder knows the password. > > > > the more security the better, as far as i am concerned. > > Yes. One should use OPIE when he knows the connection is being eavesdropped > at his end and accepts the fact that carrying around a printed sheet of > paper with a few OTP-generat

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
ws the password. > > the more security the better, as far as i am concerned. Yes. One should use OPIE when he knows the connection is being eavesdropped at his end and accepts the fact that carrying around a printed sheet of paper with a few OTP-generated passwords is safer (or you could program you

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Thorsten Sideb0ard
security the better, as far as i am concerned. -thorsten sideb0ard network/systems engineer On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Carlos Carvalho wrote: > Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 19 September 2000 00:04: > >I just set up libpam-opie and it works quite well from the console as > >w

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 19 September 2000 00:04: >I just set up libpam-opie and it works quite well from the console as >well as with ssh. Unfortunatly it does not show wich OTPasswd it expects >with ssh login but this is another story. I don't see the poin

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Jim Breton
On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:18:05PM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > Yeah, those do solve the worst problem with OPIE. There's nothing wrong with > OTPs when properly designed (i.e.: no sheets of paper ;-) ), but since the > original poster was talking about OPIE... Using OPIE do

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
also. Yeah, those do solve the worst problem with OPIE. There's nothing wrong with OTPs when properly designed (i.e.: no sheets of paper ;-) ), but since the original poster was talking about OPIE... -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and

OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi, I just set up libpam-opie and it works quite well from the console as well as with ssh. Unfortunatly it does not show wich OTPasswd it expects with ssh login but this is another story. In order to get it working I had to change /etc/pam.d/ssh from: | auth required pam_nologin.so

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Thorsten Sideb0ard
he intruder knows the password. > > > > the more security the better, as far as i am concerned. > > Yes. One should use OPIE when he knows the connection is being eavesdropped > at his end and accepts the fact that carrying around a printed sheet of > paper with a few OTP-generat

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
ws the password. > > the more security the better, as far as i am concerned. Yes. One should use OPIE when he knows the connection is being eavesdropped at his end and accepts the fact that carrying around a printed sheet of paper with a few OTP-generated passwords is safer (or you could program you

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Thorsten Sideb0ard
security the better, as far as i am concerned. -thorsten sideb0ard network/systems engineer On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Carlos Carvalho wrote: > Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 19 September 2000 00:04: > >I just set up libpam-opie and it works quite well from the console as > &

Re: OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Peter Palfrader ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 19 September 2000 00:04: >I just set up libpam-opie and it works quite well from the console as >well as with ssh. Unfortunatly it does not show wich OTPasswd it expects >with ssh login but this is another story. I don't see the poin

OTP (opie) and ssh

2000-09-18 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi, I just set up libpam-opie and it works quite well from the console as well as with ssh. Unfortunatly it does not show wich OTPasswd it expects with ssh login but this is another story. In order to get it working I had to change /etc/pam.d/ssh from: | auth required pam_nologin.so