Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-09 Thread JW
On Sunday 08 June 2008 14:04:14 Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yep this is lighttpd and it's mod_status. > > OK (if true), I still question the need for posing as IIS, and > therefore I question the mirror operator's > intent/reason

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008, Jim Popovitch wrote: > I would think that neither of those cases immediately passes muster > with concerned security minded folks. And, just because you are OK > with it, it doesn't mean I have to be. ;-) Clearly the people in charge are. Can we move on to relevant stuff no

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Jacob Appelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your thoughts on this subject are really fascinating. Because while I > agree that the idea of "security by obscurity" as the only line of > defense is flawed, you're making assumptions and value judgments that > seem beyo

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
2008/6/9 Anderson Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [...] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ping ike.egr.msu.edu > PING ike.egr.msu.edu (35.9.37.225) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from ike.egr.msu.edu (35.9.37.225): icmp_seq=1 ttl=39 time=315 ms > 64 bytes from ike.egr.msu.edu (35.9.37.225): icmp_seq=2 ttl=39

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Anderson Kaiser
2008/6/8 Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jim Popovitch wrote: > > Here's my issue, please correct me if I am wrong. .debs and sigs both > > exist on the same server. If the Windows box/network is compromised, > > then the sigs and debs can be modified and who would know? > > The security provid

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Joey Hess
Jim Popovitch wrote: > Here's my issue, please correct me if I am wrong. .debs and sigs both > exist on the same server. If the Windows box/network is compromised, > then the sigs and debs can be modified and who would know? The security provided by a gpg signature is the difficulty in forging t

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Simon Valiquette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jim Popovitch un jour écrivit: >>> If they want to do this, fine. But should they continue to be in >>> rotation for ftp.us.debian.org? >> Personnaly, I would have chosen to impersonate another w

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Simon Valiquette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jim Popovitch un jour écrivit: >> >> If they want to do this, fine. But should they continue to be in >> rotation for ftp.us.debian.org? > > Personnaly, I would have chosen to impersonate another web server than > IIS,

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Valiquette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Personnaly, I would have chosen to impersonate another web server than > IIS, but except for that I see no problem with what they have done. It also could be just a case of the sysadmin amusing him/herself: Back in the day, I used to edit /etc/{is

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Simon Valiquette
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Jim Popovitch un jour écrivit: >> >> Yep this is lighttpd and it's mod_status. > > OK (if true), I still question the need for posing as IIS, and > therefore I question the mirror operator's > intent/reasons/capabilities/interests/ as well as

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Lasse Kliemann
* Message by -Jim Popovitch- from Sun 2008-06-08: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > >> It's mirror's like that, that make me paranoid about Debian Security. > > > > Why is that? IIS is the second most used w

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Yep this is lighttpd and it's mod_status. > > OK (if true), I still question the need for posing as IIS, and > therefore I question the mirror operator's > intent/reasons/capabilities/interests/ as

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Yagisan
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:58 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > >> It's mirror's like that, that make me paranoid about Debian Security. > > > > Why is that? IIS is the second most

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep this is lighttpd and it's mod_status. OK (if true), I still question the need for posing as IIS, and therefore I question the mirror operator's intent/reasons/capabilities/interests/ as well as security capabilites.

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> It's mirror's like that, that make me paranoid about Debian Security. > > Why is that? IIS is the second most used web server on the market. And since > mirrors are not a trust

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > It's mirror's like that, that make me paranoid about Debian Security. Why is that? IIS is the second most used web server on the market. And since mirrors are not a trusted part of software distribution anyway, I dont see an issue here. Gruss Bernd --

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Henri, * Henri Salo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-08 12:34]: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:27:06 -0600 > "JD. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > It looks like they were running Debian before and switched this month. > > Seems very weird to me. > > > > That server looks like lighttpd. Yep t

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread Henri Salo
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:27:06 -0600 "JD. Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:05 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Well, I thought I had seen it all... but this takes the cake. > >> > >> http://ike.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/ > > For the heck of it, Here is some info about

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread JD. Brown
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 12:05 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Well, I thought I had seen it all... but this takes the cake. >> >> http://ike.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/ For the heck of it, Here is some info about them. http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://ike.egr.msu.edu & http://p

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-08 Thread jeffry
> Well, I thought I had seen it all... but this takes the cake. > > http://ike.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/ > > > -Jim P. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > this is weird. but, somehow it is hard to believe.

Re: Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:05 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > this is weird. but, somehow it is hard to believe. it is possible to change > the identification string to anything right? maybe it is apache but trying > to be IIS??? That would be nice if true... but I seriously doubt that to be the c

Microsoft-IIS/6.0 serves up Debian... WTF!

2008-06-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
Well, I thought I had seen it all... but this takes the cake. http://ike.egr.msu.edu/debian/pool/ -Jim P. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]