Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-09-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
[No need to Cc: me; I read the list. Please respect my M-F-T ] On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 07:45:14AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > On Thursday, Aug 29, 2002, at 09:34 US/Eastern, Nathan E Norman wrote: > > >This is why all ISPs should apply filters at their ingress/egress > >points. Unfort

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-09-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Thursday, Aug 29, 2002, at 09:34 US/Eastern, Nathan E Norman wrote: This is why all ISPs should apply filters at their ingress/egress points. Unfortunately, many do not. While I don't want to start a flame war here, as all discussions of this topic seem to become, I'd just like to point

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-09-01 Thread David U.
Adam Majer wrote: > I know. It is crazzy. I actually would like to see some sort of a > better defence than just standing there uselessly. I mean, in real > life if a country (community etc..) gets attacked by another, there is > usually a "war" and someone is tought a lesson. But here, all we > do

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-09-01 Thread Adam Majer
> Simple. Random IP-address block scans. Having the box live on the 'net > alone guarantees that it will get some random hits. Prepare to see lot more > of them from here-on. > > Script-kiddies, trying to find suitable hosts for their mass exploitation > tools. Worms, eagerly propagating on th

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Jose Luis Domingo Lopez
On Thursday, 29 August 2002, at 16:57:09 +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > I'll add another one to that: I started using syslogd-sql, which is a > > modified version of "the" syslog 1.4.1 that also allows logging to a > > MySQL database. I hope it is a step in the right direction to use > > advances

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 11:49:36AM +0200, Michael Renzmann wrote: > I'll add another one to that: I started using syslogd-sql, which is a > modified version of "the" syslog 1.4.1 that also allows logging to a > MySQL database. I hope it is a step in the right direction to use > advances SQL quer

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:47:10AM -0500, Daniel J. Rychlik wrote: > > If you use Iptables and you block spoofed addresses with Iptables, > will that stop the spoofing in their tracks, therefore decreasing the > chance of a DOS? No. For example, let's say someone manages to spoof "mailout.aol

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Dale Amon
On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 05:47:10AM -0500, Daniel J. Rychlik wrote: > If you use Iptables and you block spoofed addresses with Iptables, > will that stop the spoofing in their tracks, therefore decreasing the > chance of a DOS? Not necessarily. You can stop blind spoofing attacks where ip's belon

RE: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Rychlik
does ." - -Original Message- From: Rolf Kutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian. Org Subject: Re: Mail relay attempts * Quoting Jones, Steven ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Ive found port sentry really good for detecting port s

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Jones, Steven ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Ive found port sentry really good for detecting port scans and then routeing > the return packets to no where. That makes you open to DoS-Attacks. Someone could scan you with spoofed source-IP and disconnect your box. A tarpit is a much better aproac

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-29 Thread Michael Renzmann
Hi Peter. Peter Cordes wrote: [tarpit for attacking worms] I remember hearing about people doing exactly that. Maybe it was mentioned on /. or the local LUG mailing list (http://nslug.ns.ca/). Sounds interesting. The LUG website is unreachable at the moment, but I will dig the slashdot arch

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-28 Thread Peter Cordes
On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 11:56:24AM +0200, Michael Renzmann wrote: > Hi. > > Jones, Steven wrote: > >Ive found port sentry really good for detecting port scans and then > >routeing > >the return packets to no where. > > As an addition to that idea: would it be possible to cause similar > effects

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Renzmann
Hi. Jones, Steven wrote: Ive found port sentry really good for detecting port scans and then routeing the return packets to no where. As an addition to that idea: would it be possible to cause similar effects to HTTP-server worms with a modified tarpit? Maybe a modified version of the kernel

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-28 Thread Michael Renzmann
Hi Dale. Dale Amon wrote: The only thing you can do is to make damn certain your box does not become part of the problem. I'll add to that: make sure you actually check your logs. I use syslog-ng to bring all essential realtime logging to a hardened server; I'll add another one to that: I st

RE: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Jones, Steven
Ive found port sentry really good for detecting port scans and then routeing the return packets to no where. :) Thing -Original Message- From: Rolf Kutz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 28 August 2002 4:10 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian. Org Subject: Re: Mail relay attempts

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Rolf Kutz
* Quoting Craig Sanders ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > PS: actually, the only other thing you could do is set firewall rules > blocking inbound tcp port 25. if your mail server is the primary MX for > your domain then you would also need a secondary MX and open the > firewall for just that machine. sp

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020827 17:07]: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:12:51AM -0500, Daniel J. Rychlik wrote: > PS: actually, the only other thing you could do is set firewall rules > blocking inbound tcp port 25. if your mail server is the primary MX for > your domain then you would al

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 at 11:32:53PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > PS: actually, the only other thing you could do is set firewall rules > blocking inbound tcp port 25. if your mail server is the primary MX for > your domain then you would also need a secondary MX and open the > firewall for just tha

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Craig Sanders
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 06:12:51AM -0500, Daniel J. Rychlik wrote: > This is great, Just great. I run a mail server on dsl service > provided by mabell. I wrote a perl script that mails me some reports > on activities on my server everyday. I wake up this morning and I > have an alarm. > Obvious

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 04:11:21PM +0300, Mika Bostr?m wrote: > > Karl Breitner wrote: > > >Welcome to the world of SPAMfighting > > Our new server has an official IP since last saturday, and no domain > > name pointing to it yet besides a dyndns-account I abused for testing > > purpose. Within t

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Mika Boström
> Karl Breitner wrote: > >Welcome to the world of SPAMfighting > Our new server has an official IP since last saturday, and no domain > name pointing to it yet besides a dyndns-account I abused for testing > purpose. Within these three days of operation I had several persons > trying to get acce

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Michael Renzmann
Hi Karl. Karl Breitner wrote: What can I say Daniel, except welcome to the harsh reality of a postmaster. Hmm, as I'm to become a "postmaster" in a few days, too, I would like to learn a bit more about that. Most probably this list is not intended for "chat" like this, so I would be happy to

Re: Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Karl Breitner
Daniel J. Rychlik wrote: This is great, Just great. I run a mail server on dsl service provided by mabell. I wrote a perl script that mails me some reports on activities on my server everyday. I wake up this morning and I have an alarm. Obviously, non of these were relayed from my server

Mail relay attempts

2002-08-27 Thread Daniel J. Rychlik
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is great, Just great. I run a mail server on dsl service provided by mabell. I wrote a perl script that mails me some reports on activities on my server everyday. I wake up this morning and I have an alarm. Obviously, non of these were relaye