Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Karsten M. Self wrote: > > It had to be re-installed. You probably know that since you've read > > the announcement we were able to send out before the machine was taken > > down for reinstallation. > > That announcement wasn't delivered for all users until _after_ murphy > was resurrected. I my

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-29 Thread Martin Schulze
Karsten M. Self wrote: > > It had to be re-installed. You probably know that since you've read > > the announcement we were able to send out before the machine was taken > > down for reinstallation. > > That announcement wasn't delivered for all users until _after_ murphy > was resurrected. I my

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Rick Moen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [http://www.debianhelp.org/ :] > > Sadly, that hypothesis doesn't check out, so I think the site is > effectively hung. And no soon do I say that than I notice the site being usable again! -- Cheers, "Reality is not

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Roland Mas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [http://www.debianhelp.org/ :] > I didn't go further either. I blame the site for not working unless > you accept its cookies, and I'm too lazy to double-check this > hypothesis. Sadly, that hypothesis doesn't check out, so I think the site is effectively

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-29 Thread Roland Mas
Rick Moen, 2003-11-29 05:20:16 +0100 : > Quoting Roland Mas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> /me suggests the Debian Planet and Debian Help (both .org) websites. > ^^^ > > "Session initialisation failed." Problems? I didn't go further either. I blame the si

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Rick Moen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [http://www.debianhelp.org/ :] > > Sadly, that hypothesis doesn't check out, so I think the site is > effectively hung. And no soon do I say that than I notice the site being usable again! -- Cheers, "Reality is not

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Roland Mas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [http://www.debianhelp.org/ :] > I didn't go further either. I blame the site for not working unless > you accept its cookies, and I'm too lazy to double-check this > hypothesis. Sadly, that hypothesis doesn't check out, so I think the site is effectively

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-29 Thread Roland Mas
Rick Moen, 2003-11-29 05:20:16 +0100 : > Quoting Roland Mas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >> /me suggests the Debian Planet and Debian Help (both .org) websites. > ^^^ > > "Session initialisation failed." Problems? I didn't go further either. I blame the si

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Roland Mas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > /me suggests the Debian Planet and Debian Help (both .org) websites. ^^^ "Session initialisation failed." Problems? -- Cheers,A: No. Rick Moen Q: Should I inclu

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Roland Mas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > /me suggests the Debian Planet and Debian Help (both .org) websites. ^^^ "Session initialisation failed." Problems? -- Cheers,A: No. Rick Moen Q: Should I inclu

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-28 Thread Roland Mas
Karsten M. Self, 2003-11-28 13:30:28 +0100 : [...] > - Where to provide information. Personal websites and news > channels served well, but an advance statement of "here's where > you should turn in the event of an emergency" would be useful. /me suggests the Debian Planet and Debian Help

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-28 Thread Roland Mas
Karsten M. Self, 2003-11-28 13:30:28 +0100 : [...] > - Where to provide information. Personal websites and news > channels served well, but an advance statement of "here's where > you should turn in the event of an emergency" would be useful. /me suggests the Debian Planet and Debian Help

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Ross Boylan
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 04:14:19AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I'll disagree with Martin's comment that the server compromise didn't > constitute a security issue despite the lack of an archive compromise. > For someone well versed in Debian procedures, it might have been > plausible that the a

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Ross Boylan
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 04:14:19AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > I'll disagree with Martin's comment that the server compromise didn't > constitute a security issue despite the lack of an archive compromise. > For someone well versed in Debian procedures, it might have been > plausible that the a

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 01:52:14PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > I learnt on /. that it had been a password compromise, so that meant, it > was in the generic class of problems. We're always vulnerable towards > that. But, we're all likely to be vulnerable to the local exploit used > to gain r

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Nov 28, 2003 at 01:52:14PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > I learnt on /. that it had been a password compromise, so that meant, it > was in the generic class of problems. We're always vulnerable towards > that. But, we're all likely to be vulnerable to the local exploit used > to gain r

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Friday 28 November 2003 13:14, Karsten M. Self wrote: >That announcement wasn't delivered for all users until _after_ murphy >was resurrected. I myself got the debian-security-announce message >mailed Nov 21 on 25 Nov 2003 15:16:56 -0800. Hm, I got that late too, but the (unsigned) announceme

Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Dan Jacobson wrote: > > To us debian users, the most notable thing during this break in or > > whatever episode, is how the communication structures crumbled. > > It had to be re-installed. You probably know th

Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Friday 28 November 2003 13:14, Karsten M. Self wrote: >That announcement wasn't delivered for all users until _after_ murphy >was resurrected. I myself got the debian-security-announce message >mailed Nov 21 on 25 Nov 2003 15:16:56 -0800. Hm, I got that late too, but the (unsigned) announceme

Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications (was Re: communication structures crumbled)

2003-11-28 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 09:30:05AM +0100, Martin Schulze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Dan Jacobson wrote: > > To us debian users, the most notable thing during this break in or > > whatever episode, is how the communication structures crumbled. > > It had to be re-installed. You probably know tha