Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-11 Thread Florent Rougon
Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The certificate for db.debian.org is still signed by the old key. Mmmm. >> > They're both part of the ca-certificates package in testing and >> > unstable: >> > new: /etc/ssl/certs/SPI_CA_2006-cacert.pem >> > old: /etc/ssl/certs/spi-ca.pem >> >> It appea

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-11 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 09:22:49PM +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > Hi, > > I appreciate your help (Joerg, David and Kurt), but there is still a > problem to solve before I can trust my connection to db.debian.org via > HTTPS. > > Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So Joerg just replaced

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-11 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, I appreciate your help (Joerg, David and Kurt), but there is still a problem to solve before I can trust my connection to db.debian.org via HTTPS. Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So Joerg just replaced them with the new ones: > http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/spi-ca.crt > http://ww

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 09:57:33PM +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > > For those that don't know those files: > > http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/spi-ca.crt > > http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/spi-ca-fingerprint.txt So Joerg just replaced them with the new ones: http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/spi

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread David Clymer
On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 22:24 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10803 March 1977, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > I assume you've used https and that you verified the certificate? > > And saw that it was issued by SPI? And then you looked up SPI's > > certificate? And you found that there is a text file

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread David Clymer
On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 21:57 +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > [ I think debian-admin have read enough about my request by now, so if > you reply about verifying certificates and such, please consider > dropping the CC. Thanks. ] > > Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > See: > > http://l

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10803 March 1977, Florent Rougon wrote: > but unfortunately: > % md5sum /etc/ssl/certs/spi-ca.pem > 33922a1660820e44812e7ddc392878cb /etc/ssl/certs/spi-ca.pem > And reading /etc/ssl/certs/spi-ca.pem is not very enlightening: > It would be nice to have the whole procedure for verifying the

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10803 March 1977, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I assume you've used https and that you verified the certificate? > And saw that it was issued by SPI? And then you looked up SPI's > certificate? And you found that there is a text file with the SHA1 and > MD5 sum signed by Wichert Akkerman? > For those

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Florent Rougon
[ I think debian-admin have read enough about my request by now, so if you reply about verifying certificates and such, please consider dropping the CC. Thanks. ] Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/07/msg00056.html > Which has the key i

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 06:37:16PM +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > Hi, > > David Clymer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > With a signature, he just has to trust that signer f00's key has not > > been compromised, thus the published host key info is trustworthy and a > > MITM is not happening. > >

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 08:19:33PM +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > > 2. I have to trust the integrity of db.debian.org. > > I think it would be much better if someone from debian-admin would be so > kind to GPG-sign the public RSA keys of Debian hosts. This way, I'd only > have to trust that Jam

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, David Clymer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With a signature, he just has to trust that signer f00's key has not > been compromised, thus the published host key info is trustworthy and a > MITM is not happening. To be honest, I believe the MITM attack problem could be mitigated by the certific

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 1. There is also: >> * Entry created: /00/00 00:00:00 UTC >> * Entry modified: /00/00 00:00:00 UTC > > Those fields could be removed and not shown, that would "fix" this. Its > just that in the past we had those filled i

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-10 Thread David Clymer
On Tue, 2006-10-10 at 02:12 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 10802 March 1977, Florent Rougon wrote: ... > > > 2. I have to trust the integrity of db.debian.org. > > Signing the keys you would have to trust whoever signed it. Same thing. > I don't see that as being the same thing at all. W

Re: About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-09 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 10802 March 1977, Florent Rougon wrote: > 1. There is also: > * Entry created: /00/00 00:00:00 UTC > * Entry modified: /00/00 00:00:00 UTC Those fields could be removed and not shown, that would "fix" this. Its just that in the past we had those filled in, now we d

About GPG-signing the public RSA keys of Debian machines

2006-10-09 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, I wanted to login on gluck today and stumbled on that: @@@ @WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@ IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NA