Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-30 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 08:59:15AM -0400, Peter Solodov wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Jayson Vantuyl wrote: > > On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:06:21PM +0200, Olaf Dietsche wrote: > >> Just curious, how do you su to root, if root's password is > >> disabled? Do yo

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:04:00PM +0200, Marcel Weber wrote: > I did not reread the whole thread, so sorry if I'm asking silly > questions, but perhaps it's not a security issue, but a policy issue: Oh, it is partially a policy issue. All of the points you have mentioned completely apply. Offic

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:06:21PM +0200, Olaf Dietsche wrote: > Just curious, how do you su to root, if root's password is disabled? > Do you have a modified su replacement? One of the few really nice things to come out of RedHat is PAM. If you examine /etc/pam.d/su there should be a commented li

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 03:11:03PM +, Jason Lunz wrote: > Maybe he didn't use the same method for all of them. With the tty > sniffer, he could have sniffed passwords from the first box he cracked > if he was lucky enough to catch an admin su'ing. Do the timestamps > support that theory? (This

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 08:59:15AM -0400, Peter Solodov wrote: > On Thu, 29 May 2003, Jayson Vantuyl wrote: > > On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:06:21PM +0200, Olaf Dietsche wrote: > >> Just curious, how do you su to root, if root's password is > >> disabled? Do yo

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:04:00PM +0200, Marcel Weber wrote: > I did not reread the whole thread, so sorry if I'm asking silly > questions, but perhaps it's not a security issue, but a policy issue: Oh, it is partially a policy issue. All of the points you have mentioned completely apply. Offic

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 02:06:21PM +0200, Olaf Dietsche wrote: > Just curious, how do you su to root, if root's password is disabled? > Do you have a modified su replacement? One of the few really nice things to come out of RedHat is PAM. If you examine /etc/pam.d/su there should be a commented li

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-29 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 03:11:03PM +, Jason Lunz wrote: > Maybe he didn't use the same method for all of them. With the tty > sniffer, he could have sniffed passwords from the first box he cracked > if he was lucky enough to catch an admin su'ing. Do the timestamps > support that theory? (This

Re: iptables question

2003-05-28 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 06:23:10PM -0500, Andr?s Rold?n wrote: > Hi. > > I was reading about certain kind of attacks about TCP sequence and I was > wondering whether iptables is vulnerable to theses attacks. Especifically, > whether iptables is capable to know if a RELATED or ESTABLISHED package i

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-28 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:44:29PM +0100, David Ramsden wrote: > I've found that when running a system were the users can put up their > web pages.. most insecure. > It's virtually impossible to know what each user is running under their > web space.. An exploitable version of PHPNuke for example,

Re: [despammed] Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-28 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:35:32PM -0400, Ed McMan wrote: > Sunday, May 25, 2003, 2:04:30 PM, Jayson Vantuyl (Jayson) wrote: > > Jayson> We've had a number of hacked boxen recently. It appears a certain > Jayson> person (Romanian we think) is specifically targeting us and

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-28 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:32:56PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > If you believe he'll be back, it might be worth it to set up a honeypot > and a box running tcpdump and capturing all the traffic to honeypot. > Set the honeypot up with the same services you run on your production > machines, and ma

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-28 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:25:28PM -0400, John Keimel wrote: > Here's one major thing to consider. If all of your servers within your > network are nearly the same, security wise, then you should consider > that ALL of them are hacked. Until you've rebuilt every single one with > trustable sources,

Re: iptables question

2003-05-27 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 06:23:10PM -0500, Andr?s Rold?n wrote: > Hi. > > I was reading about certain kind of attacks about TCP sequence and I was > wondering whether iptables is vulnerable to theses attacks. Especifically, > whether iptables is capable to know if a RELATED or ESTABLISHED package i

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-27 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:44:29PM +0100, David Ramsden wrote: > I've found that when running a system were the users can put up their > web pages.. most insecure. > It's virtually impossible to know what each user is running under their > web space.. An exploitable version of PHPNuke for example,

Re: [despammed] Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-27 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:35:32PM -0400, Ed McMan wrote: > Sunday, May 25, 2003, 2:04:30 PM, Jayson Vantuyl (Jayson) wrote: > > Jayson> We've had a number of hacked boxen recently. It appears a certain > Jayson> person (Romanian we think) is specifically targeting us and

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-27 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:32:56PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > If you believe he'll be back, it might be worth it to set up a honeypot > and a box running tcpdump and capturing all the traffic to honeypot. > Set the honeypot up with the same services you run on your production > machines, and ma

Re: Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-27 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 02:25:28PM -0400, John Keimel wrote: > Here's one major thing to consider. If all of your servers within your > network are nearly the same, security wise, then you should consider > that ALL of them are hacked. Until you've rebuilt every single one with > trustable sources,

Advice Needed On Recent Rootings

2003-05-25 Thread Jayson Vantuyl
he only comforting thought is that I can't imaging Redhat would have done any better. Jayson Vantuyl Computing Edge, Inc.