Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 09:52:13PM +0200, Elmar Stellnberger wrote: > On 09.04.22 23:31, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > > Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: > >>> For the oldstable distribution (buster), these problems have > >>> been fixed in version 91.8.0esr-1~deb10u1. > >> > >> Where can I get this from f

Re: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update

On 09.04.22 23:31, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: >>> For the oldstable distribution (buster), these problems have >>> been fixed in version 91.8.0esr-1~deb10u1. >> >> Where can I get this from for buster and architecture i386? >>

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

What security features do P3/P4/PM systems lack? I only know that the Intel ME was introduced with early Core 2 systems and that is well known to have security issues. Today people spend extra money for a system where you can disable the ME in the UEFI though it is only disabled by a setting then a

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote: What about Spectre /Meltdown? P3/P4/Pentium M systems don´t have that? Core 2 systems to my knowledge can. There's no reason to believe netburst systems are not affected by any of the cpu issues identified in the past few years, but

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 07:18:53PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote: If I would get an x64 CPU from a Linux pro, sure I would take it. Otherwise I would not recommend to just take any old hardware for exchange with my working one since not all of it was easily well supported by Linux these days, as far

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On 13.04.22 16:44, piorunz wrote: On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: And if it is indeed possible, how can I switch from i386 to amd64? Can this be done with the apt tools? Then during the migrating some packages will be from amd64 already while others will be still i386. How does

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On 13.04.22 19:18, Levis Yarema wrote: If I would get an x64 CPU from a Linux pro, sure I would take it. Otherwise I would not recommend to just take any old hardware for exchange with my working one since not all of it was easily well supported by Linux these days, as far as I can remember.

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On 13.04.22 17:11, piorunz wrote: > On 13/04/2022 15:57, Michael Stone wrote: > >> family 15 model 2 is northwood based. no amd64. the best option for that >> one is to find a cheap second hand box with a CPU that's only 10 years >> old instead of (literally) 20 years old and retire it; those old p

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On 13.04.22 17:11, piorunz wrote: > On 13/04/2022 15:57, Michael Stone wrote: > >> family 15 model 2 is northwood based. no amd64. the best option for that >> one is to find a cheap second hand box with a CPU that's only 10 years >> old instead of (literally) 20 years old and retire it; those old p

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:32:10PM +0200, Odo Poppinger wrote: I have a beloved P4 Gericom Frontman and I do not want to give it away. and that's fine, but it's increasingly unreasonable to try to run a modern general purpose OS on hardware that's 20 years old. if the driver is nostalgia, som

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

I have a beloved P4 Gericom Frontman and I do not want to give it away. It had a new game changing design as can today be found with many Apple computers. I also have a P4 notebook and some i386 desktops, some of which I am dual booting with some Windows and OS/2. New computers with a setup fro

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On 13/04/2022 15:57, Michael Stone wrote: family 15 model 2 is northwood based. no amd64. the best option for that one is to find a cheap second hand box with a CPU that's only 10 years old instead of (literally) 20 years old and retire it; those old p4's were really power hungry, and it shouldn

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:44:00PM +0100, piorunz wrote: On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware 1# vendor_id   : GenuineIntel cpu family  : 6 model   : 22 model name  : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  4

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware 1# vendor_id   : GenuineIntel cpu family  : 6 model   : 22 model name  : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  440  @ 2.00GHz stepping    : 1 microcode   : 0x43 c