Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Kitty Cat
Thanks. I'm new here. I was not on this list then. However, I just read the thread: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2011/01/msg2.html I saw that some of my concerns were mentioned there about obtaining and verifying installation media, MITM attacks, etc. I have previously verified

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > I frankly find it hard to believe that someone who is unwilling to click > past the first link when researching actually cares much about any kind of > writeup of threat models. I'll make it simple: if you're completely > unsophisticated and

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:11:44PM -0400, Darius Jahandarie wrote: If Tux Q. Debiannewbie doesn't know what adversaries with what powers they are/aren't protected against for their use cases without looking hard and being a security expert, it's hard to make serious claims that Debian is actually

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 10:15:59PM -0400, Darius Jahandarie wrote: >> >> It would be nice for this information to be somewhere more formal than >> in mailing list archives. Threat models are becoming increasingly >> important to convey to end

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 10:15:59PM -0400, Darius Jahandarie wrote: It would be nice for this information to be somewhere more formal than in mailing list archives. Threat models are becoming increasingly important to convey to end users. The mailing list discussion referenced the sources... -

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 06:29:09PM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: For years I have been concerned with MITM attacks on Debian mirrors. We discussed this literally within the past couple of months on this list, at length. Have you read the archives, including the posts about how to establish a trust

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Darius Jahandarie
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 06:29:09PM -0600, Kitty Cat wrote: >> >> For years I have been concerned with MITM attacks on Debian mirrors. > > > We discussed this literally within the past couple of months on this list, > at length. Have you read

Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy

2014-07-09 Thread Kitty Cat
For years I have been concerned with MITM attacks on Debian mirrors. I think the only valid solution would be to individually sign EACH package with a valid GPG signature from a trusted source. I think EACH official package from Debian should be GPG signed by both package maintainers and also sig

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2014-07-09 Thread Daniel Thomas Hasbrouck
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