Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Mark Haase
Thanks, Luca. Will you notify this mailing list when the SSL certs have been installed? On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:31:35PM -0400, Mark Haase wrote: > > I'd like to suggest that Debian should at least use SSL on their security > > site, ev

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Norbert Kiszka
Dnia 2013-10-30, śro o godzinie 11:34 -0200, Djones Boni pisze: > On 30-10-2013 11:05, Celejar wrote: > > You're snipping crucial context; my comment above was in response to > > this: > >> For apt-get a self-signed certificate could be used which comes together > >> with Debian. No CA required. Th

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread adrelanos
Djones Boni: > On 30-10-2013 11:05, Celejar wrote: >> You're snipping crucial context; my comment above was in response to >> this: >>> For apt-get a self-signed certificate could be used which comes together >>> with Debian. No CA required. This is both simpler and safer. >> I was pointing out tha

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Djones Boni
On 30-10-2013 11:05, Celejar wrote: > You're snipping crucial context; my comment above was in response to > this: >> For apt-get a self-signed certificate could be used which comes together >> with Debian. No CA required. This is both simpler and safer. > I was pointing out that this comment makes

Re: Suggestion for http://www.debian.org/security/faq or http://www.debian.org/security/

2013-10-30 Thread Richard Owlett
Iñaki Martinez de Ilarduya wrote: The debian documentation has some extensive information about securing your machine, with emphasis on servers: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ I have used it as a guide several times, and consider it really helpful. Regards. The tabl

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:34:15 -0200 Djones Boni <07ea86b...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 30-10-2013 09:51, Celejar wrote: > > Maybe I'm missing something, but the security of the apt system has > > nothing to do with SSL - it uses GPG signatures. This discussion about > > SSL concerns the website, etc.

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Djones Boni
On 30-10-2013 09:51, Celejar wrote: > Maybe I'm missing something, but the security of the apt system has > nothing to do with SSL - it uses GPG signatures. This discussion about > SSL concerns the website, etc. The point is server authentication. Without SSL anyone can simply hack DNS or MITM and

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread adrelanos
Celejar: > Maybe I'm missing something, but the security of the apt system has > nothing to do with SSL - it uses GPG signatures. This discussion about > SSL concerns the website, etc. That was indeed the original question, but it then drifted into the direction into how great is would be to furth

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 30 Oct 2013 09:59:39 + adrelanos wrote: > For apt-get a self-signed certificate could be used which comes together > with Debian. No CA required. This is both simpler and safer. Maybe I'm missing something, but the security of the apt system has nothing to do with SSL - it uses GPG s

Re: Suggestion for http://www.debian.org/security/faq or http://www.debian.org/security/

2013-10-30 Thread Iñaki Martinez de Ilarduya
The debian documentation has some extensive information about securing your machine, with emphasis on servers: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ I have used it as a guide several times, and consider it really helpful. Regards. On 30/10/13 12:27, Richard Owlett wrote: B

Suggestion for http://www.debian.org/security/faq or http://www.debian.org/security/

2013-10-30 Thread Richard Owlett
Being new to Debian (and *nix generally) I went looking for information before going online with my new install. I expected links for guidance at http://www.debian.org/security/faq &/or http://www.debian.org/security . Both seems to be focused on internals than interaction with outside world.

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread adrelanos
For apt-get a self-signed certificate could be used which comes together with Debian. No CA required. This is both simpler and safer. Vipul Agarwal: > How about if we use a SSL certificate signed by debian's own root CA which > can be shipped with the distros? This will eliminate the paranoia abou

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Volker Birk
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:15:44AM +, Vipul Agarwal wrote: > How about if we use a SSL certificate signed by debian's own root CA which > can be shipped with the distros? If you want to be sure that TLS is not b0rken, you have to kick out each CA, and to manually check each key again. What's a

Re: SSL for debian.org/security?

2013-10-30 Thread Vipul Agarwal
How about if we use a SSL certificate signed by debian's own root CA which can be shipped with the distros? This will eliminate the paranoia about NSA having control over the existing CA especially the one based in the States. -Vipul On Oct 29, 2013 4:18 AM, "Volker Birk" wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28