RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Steve Hagerman
Thank You Nathan. Apears I am not the only blind fool LOL Steve Hagerman http://www.thechurchofgod.org/doctrine.shtml http://www.dnspad.com/ Debian rocks -Original Message- From: Nathan E Norman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote: > P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly > disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be > debian-compatible? Of course there are such licenses, and of course they are not DFSG free ...

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:27:20PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Your a blind fool. You're ::= You are :-) -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Avoid gunfire in the bathroom tonight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Ted Parvu
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 10:53:25PM -0700, Didier Caamano wrote: > > Let say I have 3 computers a, b, c. > a: Has a useless IP address (so far as I know) a 10.ip.add.ress and cannot > connect to any service ecept html. > b: Has a normal IP and is able to serve as telnet server but not ssh. > c: Is

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:42:33 -0500 "Steve Hagerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out > way of life. > And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane > leader Saddam. > We have struck a mighty blow against te

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Steve Hagerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:43 PM > > These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish > that our nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Right now I would settle for the Debian.org admins to enforce

SANS Alert - Snort Vulnerability

2003-03-10 Thread Crawford Rainwater
This was added to the SANS Advisory on Sendmail last week. I have not seen any news nor postings related to Snort with Debian and was wondering about the status of Snort in stable at this time. TIA. --- Crawford == DHS/NIPC Adv

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Karl Ots
And a 'hacker' is just someone who like's to code, right? I mean, if you went out on to the street and asked any random passerby 'What does a hacker do?', they would reply 'A hacker is an enthusiastic computer programmer', and not 'Someone who breakes into computers to steal information' or some s

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Glen Mehn
Ian Goodall wrote: I am using http to security.debian.org and mirror.ac.uk. When opening up port 80(http) it makes no difference. I think this is beacause I am not running a service to connect i.e. connecting to port 80 on a remote system from an unprivalged port >1024? Does this mean it will u

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
Can we bring some peace to this list? Please? -Jim P.

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Cesar Rincon
First of all, I deeply apologize for posting the following rant on this list. But I *must* say it. Does anyone know where this kind of discussion could be followed on? On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:42, Steve Hagerman wrote: > > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out > wa

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Didier Caamano
From: "Jim Popovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:03:53 -0500 Can we bring some peace to this list? Please? -Jim P. I agree with you,and talking about peace and security, I have one question: Let say I have 3 computers

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread David Pastern
Didier, My apologies for my wording - it is quite common to link america to USA when speaking - i'm not the only person who does it, most people do. Of course Canadians, Mexicans et al are not US Citizens and my comments were not meant to encompass those nationalities. A rather interesting thin

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Steve Hagerman
Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out way of life. And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane leader Saddam. We have struck a mighty blow against terrorism and thanks to Bush it will not stop with Afghanistan. Those insane fanatics that thr

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Didier Caamano
From: "Karl Ots" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Peace is not off topic Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:14:45 +1000 And a 'hacker' is just someone who like's to code, right? I mean, if you went out on to the street and asked any random passerby 'What does a hacker do?',

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Didier Caamano
Just to think about: Since when the people who lives in the United States are Americans, since when the US = America. So far as I know, I leave in the American CONTINENT, I didn't born in the US, and I don't live there either, but I'm a fucking american to, cos I live in the CONTINENT of Ameri

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Garrison
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Andreas Kotes wrote: > I fear my system may be used for psychological cyberwarfare, i.e. I > might get e-mails messing with my brain. what can I do? ;) http://zapatopi.net/mindguard.html p.s. I certainly don't have anything to do with mindguard and only mention it as it is s

Peaceful Use Only Licenses (was Re: Peace is not off topic)

2003-03-10 Thread Mike Renfro
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote: > P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly > disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be > debian-compatible? Finally, we drag the thread back to something at least marginally Debian-re

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Marc Demlenne
Maybe you can simply take a look at this ... http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-fw-security-update.en.html On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:45:48AM -, Ian Goodall wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close > everyting a

AW: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
Title: Nachricht   ID=56596 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=1 [SRC="" DST=172.16.250.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=15353 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1031 DPT=8080 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 ]Mar 11 01:40:08 dev1 kernel: DROPITIN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SR

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Marc Demlenne
Yes, there's a problem with ICMP ... A ICMP type 3 code 1 (so "host unreachable") is sent to you, but blocked by your firewall... And it's about 172.16.250.1 Is everything well configured ? Maybe you could also accept some ICMP msg on your INPUT chain ? e.g. : iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-t

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
>>P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be debian-compatible? I know that ther is a disallowing to use some special "network-"cars (myrinet-cards from myricom) on resarch on weapons outside the USA. The

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:42:33 -0500 "Steve Hagerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out > way of life. > And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane > leader Saddam. > We have struck a mighty blow against te

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Steve Hagerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:43 PM > > These people and their treasonist attitudes make me wish > that our nation would Enforce the laws against treason. Right now I would settle for the Debian.org admins to enforce

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread David Pastern
Amen! Couldn't have said it better Raymond. I don't really dislike Americans per se, but I DO dislike the US government, it's policies and hyprocisy. Should the US attack Iraq without approval from the UN then the US, Austalia and UK (and any other participating dickhead governments) should be c

SANS Alert - Snort Vulnerability

2003-03-10 Thread Crawford Rainwater
This was added to the SANS Advisory on Sendmail last week. I have not seen any news nor postings related to Snort with Debian and was wondering about the status of Snort in stable at this time. TIA. --- Crawford == DHS/NIPC Adv

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Steve Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 03:11]: > Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users > become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I > wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news! you'd get less information there, th

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Andreas Vitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 02:41]: > > Why do you think iraq will destroy your holy USA ?? Don't you think > > Iraq > > CAN attack any country on earth ?? > > using missiles that reach 110 to 180 kilometers, the iraq cant't > > destroy > > the US. I don not know whom the ira

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jones, Steven
have to agree This is not the palce for such discussions Thing Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news!

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Karl Ots
And a 'hacker' is just someone who like's to code, right? I mean, if you went out on to the street and asked any random passerby 'What does a hacker do?', they would reply 'A hacker is an enthusiastic computer programmer', and not 'Someone who breakes into computers to steal information' or some s

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Glen Mehn
Ian Goodall wrote: I am using http to security.debian.org and mirror.ac.uk. When opening up port 80(http) it makes no difference. I think this is beacause I am not running a service to connect i.e. connecting to port 80 on a remote system from an unprivalged port >1024? Does this mean it will use

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jim Popovitch
Can we bring some peace to this list? Please? -Jim P. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
Here are the logs:   ID=56596 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=1 [SRC="" DST=172.16.250.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=15353 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1031 DPT=8080 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 ]Mar 11 01:40:08 dev1 kernel: DROPITIN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC="" DST=17

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Steve Johnson
Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news! -- 0110001101100110110110110110 Steve Johnson: pubkeyID 0F737450 0110001101110110110110001100 Linu

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread David Pastern
Didier, My apologies for my wording - it is quite common to link america to USA when speaking - i'm not the only person who does it, most people do. Of course Canadians, Mexicans et al are not US Citizens and my comments were not meant to encompass those nationalities. A rather interesting thin

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Steve Hagerman
Thank God for a smart leader that is willing to fight to protect out way of life. And God bless all these good women and men going to fight that insane leader Saddam. We have struck a mighty blow against terrorism and thanks to Bush it will not stop with Afghanistan. Those insane fanatics that thr

RE: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Jones, Steven
I'd put the default INPUT policy last.   here is mine   note some of this is experimental as per my notes in the file.   #!/bin/bash#iptables firewall script#17/06/01#14/5/02 flushing and prerouting logs added, other rules added but not#27/9/2002 mods for wireless laptop and 3 nics active#

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
I am using http to security.debian.org and mirror.ac.uk. When opening up port 80(http) it makes no difference. I think this is beacause I am not running a service to connect i.e. connecting to port 80 on a remote system from an unprivalged port >1024? Does this mean it will use a different port ev

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:45:48AM -, Ian Goodall wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close > everyting and then open up just ssh and ssl. This obviously prevents my > apt-get update from working. What ports do I need to open for this to w

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Marc Demlenne
Hi ! It depends how you fetch your packages. Ftp or http ? You have thus to open either the 80(http) or 21(ftp) port as well. Maybe you can also limit this to your mirror only, and not to everybody. Note: If you log the packets you drop, you can take a look on the logs, and you'll see why your co

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
Here is my rule set:     #default input policy/sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP#allow www/https(ssl)/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -d 172.16.5.92 -p tcp --dport https -j ACCEPT#allow ssh/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -d 172.16.5.92 -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT#allow smtp/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
Sorry that i didnt send it to the list, so i think this should be to the lsit, either -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Robert B Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2003 02:12 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: AW: Peace is not off topic On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Raymond Wood
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now > > an Empire. "You are either with us or against us." > When did Bush actually say that A

RE: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Jones, Steven
shouldnt do   unless you changed the output rules?   please provide your ruleset   Thing -Original Message-From: Ian Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2003 2:06 To: debian-security@lists.debian.orgSubject: iptables and apt-get Hi Guys,   I am se

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
>> Find this hard to believe? Then you are not paying attention. >I'm afraid you are the one who has not been paying attention. The US >can't have peace when there are people with chemical and biological >>weapons who would be willing to die to destroy the US. Who do you think you are ??!!

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Richard Wonka
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 01:45:48AM CET, Ian Goodall wrote: > Hi Guys, Heythere :) > > [...]. What ports do I need to open for this to work. If it helps I am going > through a proxy to get to the internet. If it's an http-proxy, try port 80 :) -- fear and loathing: A state inspired by the

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Didier Caamano
Just to think about: Since when the people who lives in the United States are Americans, since when the US = America. So far as I know, I leave in the American CONTINENT, I didn't born in the US, and I don't live there either, but I'm a fucking american to, cos I live in the CONTINENT of Americ

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Garrison
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Andreas Kotes wrote: > I fear my system may be used for psychological cyberwarfare, i.e. I > might get e-mails messing with my brain. what can I do? ;) http://zapatopi.net/mindguard.html p.s. I certainly don't have anything to do with mindguard and only mention it as it is s

iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
Hi Guys,   I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close everyting and then open up just ssh and ssl. This obviously prevents my apt-get update from working. What ports do I need to open for this to work. If it helps I am going through a proxy to get to the interne

Peaceful Use Only Licenses (was Re: Peace is not off topic)

2003-03-10 Thread Mike Renfro
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:16:49AM +0100, Andreas Kotes wrote: > P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly > disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be > debian-compatible? Finally, we drag the thread back to something at least marginally Debian-re

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Marc Demlenne
Maybe you can simply take a look at this ... http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-fw-security-update.en.html On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:45:48AM -, Ian Goodall wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close everyting > a

AW: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
Title: Nachricht   ID=56596 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=1 [SRC="" DST=172.16.250.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=15353 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1031 DPT=8080 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 ]Mar 11 01:40:08 dev1 kernel: DROPITIN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SR

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Marc Demlenne
Yes, there's a problem with ICMP ... A ICMP type 3 code 1 (so "host unreachable") is sent to you, but blocked by your firewall... And it's about 172.16.250.1 Is everything well configured ? Maybe you could also accept some ICMP msg on your INPUT chain ? e.g. : iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-t

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
>>P.S: something for the lawyers: are there any licenses explictly disallowing the use of software in conjunction with war? would it be debian-compatible? I know that ther is a disallowing to use some special "network-"cars (myrinet-cards from myricom) on resarch on weapons outside the USA. The

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread David Pastern
Amen! Couldn't have said it better Raymond. I don't really dislike Americans per se, but I DO dislike the US government, it's policies and hyprocisy. Should the US attack Iraq without approval from the UN then the US, Austalia and UK (and any other participating dickhead governments) should be c

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Steve Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 03:11]: > Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users > become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I > wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news! you'd get less information there, th

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Kotes
Hi! * Andreas Vitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030311 02:41]: > > Why do you think iraq will destroy your holy USA ?? Don't you think > > Iraq > > CAN attack any country on earth ?? > > using missiles that reach 110 to 180 kilometers, the iraq cant't > > destroy > > the US. I don not know whom the ira

RE: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jones, Steven
have to agree This is not the palce for such discussions Thing Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
Here are the logs:   ID=56596 PROTO=ICMP TYPE=3 CODE=1 [SRC="" DST=172.16.250.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=15353 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=1031 DPT=8080 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 ]Mar 11 01:40:08 dev1 kernel: DROPITIN=lo OUT= MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:08:00 SRC="" DST=17

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Steve Johnson
Since when did a bunch of Debian/Linux developers, maintainers, users become Politicians? I must have missed that transitional period. If I wanted to here this crap, I'd start watching the news! -- 0110001101100110110110110110 Steve Johnson: pubkeyID 0F737450 0110001101110110110110001100 Linu

RE: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Jones, Steven
I'd put the default INPUT policy last.   here is mine   note some of this is experimental as per my notes in the file.   #!/bin/bash#iptables firewall script#17/06/01#14/5/02 flushing and prerouting logs added, other rules added but not#27/9/2002 mods for wireless laptop and 3 nics active#

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
I am using http to security.debian.org and mirror.ac.uk. When opening up port 80(http) it makes no difference. I think this is beacause I am not running a service to connect i.e. connecting to port 80 on a remote system from an unprivalged port >1024? Does this mean it will use a different port ev

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 12:45:48AM -, Ian Goodall wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close everyting > and then open up just ssh and ssl. This obviously prevents my apt-get update from > working. What ports do I need to open for this to w

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Marc Demlenne
Hi ! It depends how you fetch your packages. Ftp or http ? You have thus to open either the 80(http) or 21(ftp) port as well. Maybe you can also limit this to your mirror only, and not to everybody. Note: If you log the packets you drop, you can take a look on the logs, and you'll see why your co

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
Here is my rule set:     #default input policy/sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP#allow www/https(ssl)/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -d 172.16.5.92 -p tcp --dport https -j ACCEPT#allow ssh/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -s 0/0 -d 172.16.5.92 -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT#allow smtp/sbin/iptables -A INPUT -

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Raymond Wood
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined: > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now > > an Empire. "You are either with us or against us." > When did Bush actually say that A

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
Sorry that i didnt send it to the list, so i think this should be to the lsit, either -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Robert B Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. März 2003 02:12 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: AW: Peace is not off topic On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 01

RE: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Jones, Steven
shouldnt do   unless you changed the output rules?   please provide your ruleset   Thing -Original Message-From: Ian Goodall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2003 2:06 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: iptables and apt-get Hi Guys,   I am setting up iptabl

AW: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Andreas Vitz
>> Find this hard to believe? Then you are not paying attention. >I'm afraid you are the one who has not been paying attention. The US >can't have peace when there are people with chemical and biological >>weapons who would be willing to die to destroy the US. Who do you think you are ??!!

Re: iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Richard Wonka
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 01:45:48AM CET, Ian Goodall wrote: > Hi Guys, Heythere :) > > [...]. What ports do I need to open for this to work. If it helps I am going through > a proxy to get to the internet. If it's an http-proxy, try port 80 :) -- fear and loathing: A state inspired by the

Re: Apache user pages (was: Re: Permissions on /root/)

2003-03-10 Thread Thomas Sjögren
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Johannes Berth wrote: > You don't have to make your $HOME world readable, just world executable. [...] > With 711 on your $HOME and secure chmods on your files nobody will be > able to see files you don't want them to see. ... but there's still no reason to place "public html"

iptables and apt-get

2003-03-10 Thread Ian Goodall
Hi Guys,   I am setting up iptables on my debain woody box. I have decided to close everyting and then open up just ssh and ssl. This obviously prevents my apt-get update from working. What ports do I need to open for this to work. If it helps I am going through a proxy to get to the interne

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.2023 +0100]: > This thread relates to the security of the entire planet! bugger off. this list is called *debian*-security. at least one place on the 'net where you don't have to worry about fucked up nations doing penis-length contests. > I a

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Monday 10 March 2003 2:23 pm, Ted Parvu wrote: >You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to >security issues in the Debian community. Ted, I am an American paleolibertarian antiwar activist. I write frequently for LewRockwell.com, the preeminent libertarian antiwar webs

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:00:34PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > Reportedly this has been officially noted on irc.debian.org - although > the individual mentioning it on debian-user didn't state beyond that, I > presume that efforts to restore availability are underway, and that it > is advised to

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Fergus McKenzie-Kay
Same result from Canberra, Australia.  I prefer to get my security updates from security.debian.org  maybe just feels more "secure"  ah well.. just have to wait. On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 07:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just hangs. non

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote: > You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to > security issues in the Debian community. This is a sysadmin technical list. Some of us are not of your opinion. There are tens of thousands of appropriate places to

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Robert B Wilson
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now an > Empire. > "You are either with us or against us." When did Bush actually say that America is now an empire? he didn't. Bush doesn't want to go to war wit

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 16:32, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. > > Is this just me? > > Yeah... i;ve noticed

Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 10 March 2003 18:10, Jeff wrote: > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > appropriate. > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements. You do realize that this is completely the wrong list then? Come on, Emil already _stated_ that his message wa

Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 14:20, Thiemo Nagel wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > > appropriate. > > I really have to say that I heartily enjoyed this thread. In my opinion > from time to time it is fair for us to allow ourselves the luxury of a

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Mark Janssen
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. > Is this just me? Yeah... i;ve noticed this too... hopefully someone can check into it :) I use it

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Teun Vink
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. > Is this just me? > > Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218), connection >

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Monday 10 March 2003 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same > troubles. Is this just me? AOL... No response on port 80. I'm in Oslo, Norway. Best, Kjetil -- Kjetil K

Re: Apache user pages (was: Re: Permissions on /root/)

2003-03-10 Thread Thomas Sjögren
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Johannes Berth wrote: > You don't have to make your $HOME world readable, just world executable. [...] > With 711 on your $HOME and secure chmods on your files nobody will be > able to see files you don't want them to see. ... but there's still no reason to place "public html"

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.2023 +0100]: > This thread relates to the security of the entire planet! bugger off. this list is called *debian*-security. at least one place on the 'net where you don't have to worry about fucked up nations doing penis-length contests. > I a

security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Jeremy Drake
I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. Is this just me? Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218), connection timed out -- Dinner is ready when the smoke alarm goes off.

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Jeff Elkins
On Monday 10 March 2003 2:23 pm, Ted Parvu wrote: >You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to >security issues in the Debian community. Ted, I am an American paleolibertarian antiwar activist. I write frequently for LewRockwell.com, the preeminent libertarian antiwar webs

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:00:34PM -0500, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > Reportedly this has been officially noted on irc.debian.org - although > the individual mentioning it on debian-user didn't state beyond that, I > presume that efforts to restore availability are underway, and that it > is advised to

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Mikko Moilanen
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 05:10:29PM -, Jeff wrote: > > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > > appropriate. > > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements. > > Then subscribe to "debian-sec

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Fergus McKenzie-Kay
Same result from Canberra, Australia.  I prefer to get my security updates from security.debian.org  maybe just feels more "secure"  ah well.. just have to wait. On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 07:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just hangs. non

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Dale Amon
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:23:04AM -0800, Ted Parvu wrote: > You are sadly mistaken if you don't believe this thread relates to > security issues in the Debian community. This is a sysadmin technical list. Some of us are not of your opinion. There are tens of thousands of appropriate places to

Re: Peace is not off topic

2003-03-10 Thread Robert B Wilson
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now an > Empire. > "You are either with us or against us." When did Bush actually say that America is now an empire? he didn't. Bush doesn't want to go to war wit

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 16:32, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. > > Is this just me? > > Yeah... i;ve noticed

Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Yven Johannes Leist
On Monday 10 March 2003 18:10, Jeff wrote: > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > appropriate. > I subscribe to this list for Debian security announcements. You do realize that this is completely the wrong list then? Come on, Emil already _stated_ that his message wa

Re: vim modeline vulnerability

2003-03-10 Thread Luca Filipozzi
Hi Thomas, I have already, now many weeks ago, submitted a fixed vim package to the Security Team. When they are ready (have reviewed, have time, etc), they will make a DSA. I've asked them if there's anything else I can do for them, with no reply. I suspect that they are occupied with other se

Re: [work] Integrity of Debian packages - please take OT private

2003-03-10 Thread Mark L. Kahnt
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 14:20, Thiemo Nagel wrote: > Jeff wrote: > > Way off topic - please take the thread private or somewhere more > > appropriate. > > I really have to say that I heartily enjoyed this thread. In my opinion > from time to time it is fair for us to allow ourselves the luxury of a

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Mark Janssen
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. > Is this just me? Yeah... i;ve noticed this too... hopefully someone can check into it :) I use it

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Teun Vink
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same troubles. > Is this just me? > > Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218), connection >

Re: security.debian.org down?

2003-03-10 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Monday 10 March 2003 21:41, Jeremy Drake wrote: > I can ping security.debian.org, but cannot use http or ftp. It just > hangs. non-us.debian.org is the same box, and having the same > troubles. Is this just me? AOL... No response on port 80. I'm in Oslo, Norway. Best, Kjetil -- Kjetil K

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