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> > of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are created,
> > so once it wraps and starts to overwrite old data, it is lost.
> Well, that's the idea behind rrd, and I don't like it. You don't overwrite
> your security logs, why wou
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Quoting Dariush Pietrzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are created,
> > so once it wraps and starts to overwrite old data, it is lost.
> Well, that's the idea behind rrd, and I don't like it. You don't overwrite
> your security logs, why wou
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:00:42PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are
> > created, so once it wraps and starts to overwrite old data, it is lost.
> Well, that's the idea behind rrd, and I don't like it. You don't
> overwrite your
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:19:04AM -0500, George Georgalis wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:15:16AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >Of course you can, as long as you set up your RRDs at the start to hold all
> >of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are created,
> >so onc
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:00:42PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are
> > created, so once it wraps and starts to overwrite old data, it is lost.
> Well, that's the idea behind rrd, and I don't like it. You don't
> overwrite your
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:00:42PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> Goes like this:
> what is some tool and plot graphs...
> Why it's mrtg/rrdtool.
> It's great. But there is no alternative. And there should be.
What's wrong with gnuplot?
This is getting so off-topic...
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:19:04AM -0500, George Georgalis wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:15:16AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >Of course you can, as long as you set up your RRDs at the start to hold all
> >of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are created,
> >so onc
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:00:42PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> Goes like this:
> what is some tool and plot graphs...
> Why it's mrtg/rrdtool.
> It's great. But there is no alternative. And there should be.
What's wrong with gnuplot?
This is getting so off-topic...
Marcin
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Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
( for example -> when monitoring services, the tools notices states
up/down/lagged. Good. But why won't it save the data that it gathers and
display this as graph? And archive the data so that one can analyze it.
nagios does this, if you configure it. There are also co
Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
( for example -> when monitoring services, the tools notices states
up/down/lagged. Good. But why won't it save the data that it gathers and
display this as graph? And archive the data so that one can analyze it.
nagios does this, if you configure it. There are also com
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:00:42PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> It's great. But there is no alternative. And there should be.
That's because there doesn't need to be an alternative. Rrdtool is a
specialized application to fill a niche. Any old database will work in
situation where you are w
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 05:00:42PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> It's great. But there is no alternative. And there should be.
That's because there doesn't need to be an alternative. Rrdtool is a
specialized application to fill a niche. Any old database will work in
situation where you are w
Not sure what problems you're having with Nagios but my office
was originally using Big Brother which the previous admin regime had
installed before being handed over to our department to manage. Our team
found BB to be a complete and utter pain in the ass so we removed it and
replaced it w
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:15:16AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:53:20PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
>
>> nice.. but design behind whole mrtg/rrdtool makes them useless in many
>> situations -> for example, try comparing trends in two julys from
>> different years.. yo
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:15:16AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:53:20PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
>
>> nice.. but design behind whole mrtg/rrdtool makes them useless in many
>> situations -> for example, try comparing trends in two julys from
>> different years.. yo
Not sure what problems you're having with Nagios but my office
was originally using Big Brother which the previous admin regime had
installed before being handed over to our department to manage. Our team
found BB to be a complete and utter pain in the ass so we removed it and
replaced it w
> of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are created,
> so once it wraps and starts to overwrite old data, it is lost.
Well, that's the idea behind rrd, and I don't like it. You don't overwrite
your security logs, why would you like to overwrite this data?
Actually I believ
> of the data that you will want. RRDs do not expand once they are created,
> so once it wraps and starts to overwrite old data, it is lost.
Well, that's the idea behind rrd, and I don't like it. You don't overwrite
your security logs, why would you like to overwrite this data?
Actually I believ
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 04:18:56PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote:
> >* a local watchdog shell script that is called by cron minutely and that
> > - checks "ps cax" if every process is there else it restarts it
> I've seen services fail to work while they are still in the ps tree.
> Speaking fro
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > Don't know all the tools u are talking about, but maybe BigBrother
> > (http://bb4.com/) is what u are looking for?
> Ehm, netsaint,nagios seems way more mature. And I don't intend to replace
> one of those tools. I want one tool for monitoring. Or
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 04:18:56PM -0500, George Georgalis wrote:
> >* a local watchdog shell script that is called by cron minutely and that
> > - checks "ps cax" if every process is there else it restarts it
> I've seen services fail to work while they are still in the ps tree.
> Speaking fro
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> > Don't know all the tools u are talking about, but maybe BigBrother
> > (http://bb4.com/) is what u are looking for?
> Ehm, netsaint,nagios seems way more mature. And I don't intend to replace
> one of those tools. I want one tool for monitoring. Or
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:53:20PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> If anyone decides to start writing monitoring tool, I'd be happy to
> join the team.
Packages for spong and rrdtool already exist. They might not do
everything, but it looks to be a pretty stable base to start from, and
there's
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:53:20PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> nice.. but design behind whole mrtg/rrdtool makes them useless in many
> situations -> for example, try comparing trends in two julys from
> different years.. you can't, can you.. )
Of course you can, as long as you set up your R
> Don't know all the tools u are talking about, but maybe BigBrother
> (http://bb4.com/) is what u are looking for?
Ehm, netsaint,nagios seems way more mature. And I don't intend to replace
one of those tools. I want one tool for monitoring. Or maybe two ( monit
needs to run as root, wouldn't be
Don't know all the tools u are talking about, but maybe BigBrother
(http://bb4.com/) is what u are looking for?
Philipp Hetzner
Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
Hello,
I believe there is a need for good monitoring tool,
and none of existing tools qualify.
As it stands now, I am using mix of different
Hello,
I believe there is a need for good monitoring tool,
and none of existing tools qualify.
As it stands now, I am using mix of different tools, quite similiar to
each other... ie netsaint, mrtg, smokeping and monit.
And add to that syslog with syslog monitoring tools, add ipsec for logging
t
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:53:20PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> If anyone decides to start writing monitoring tool, I'd be happy to
> join the team.
Packages for spong and rrdtool already exist. They might not do
everything, but it looks to be a pretty stable base to start from, and
there's
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 02:53:20PM +0100, Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
> nice.. but design behind whole mrtg/rrdtool makes them useless in many
> situations -> for example, try comparing trends in two julys from
> different years.. you can't, can you.. )
Of course you can, as long as you set up your R
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 12:47 schrieb Thorsten Giese:
> Hello there.
>
> I have followed the recent discussion with all the flavours of the
> different tools. A question came to my mind immediatly:
>
> What is the difference between nagios and opennms?
>
> A second one:
>
> Can one of the tool
> Don't know all the tools u are talking about, but maybe BigBrother
> (http://bb4.com/) is what u are looking for?
Ehm, netsaint,nagios seems way more mature. And I don't intend to replace
one of those tools. I want one tool for monitoring. Or maybe two ( monit
needs to run as root, wouldn't be
Don't know all the tools u are talking about, but maybe BigBrother
(http://bb4.com/) is what u are looking for?
Philipp Hetzner
Dariush Pietrzak wrote:
Hello,
I believe there is a need for good monitoring tool,
and none of existing tools qualify.
As it stands now, I am using mix of different t
Hello,
I believe there is a need for good monitoring tool,
and none of existing tools qualify.
As it stands now, I am using mix of different tools, quite similiar to
each other... ie netsaint, mrtg, smokeping and monit.
And add to that syslog with syslog monitoring tools, add ipsec for logging
t
Am Freitag, 14. Februar 2003 12:47 schrieb Thorsten Giese:
> Hello there.
>
> I have followed the recent discussion with all the flavours of the
> different tools. A question came to my mind immediatly:
>
> What is the difference between nagios and opennms?
>
> A second one:
>
> Can one of the tool
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