Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Indra Kusuma
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:10:56PM +0200, Alain Tesio wrote: # > theres also another one called jailer, but if you want to secure your # > system, then you have to know well about it, use strace,lsof,mknod,ldd # > and mount command to create chroot jail system manually. # # These are the commands

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Indra Kusuma
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:10:56PM +0200, Alain Tesio wrote: # > theres also another one called jailer, but if you want to secure your # > system, then you have to know well about it, use strace,lsof,mknod,ldd # > and mount command to create chroot jail system manually. # # These are the commands

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Alain Tesio
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:26:55 +0700 Indra Kusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > # Yes, jailtool takes Debian Package Dependencies and/or CPAN .packlist > # files. I didn't know about 'makejail', I think I'll have a look at it... > > theres also another one called jailer, but if you want to secure

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Alain Tesio
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:26:55 +0700 Indra Kusuma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > # Yes, jailtool takes Debian Package Dependencies and/or CPAN .packlist > # files. I didn't know about 'makejail', I think I'll have a look at it... > > theres also another one called jailer, but if you want to secure

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:36:06PM +0800, Dion Mendel wrote: > Which files do people exclude when using integrity checkers > (e.g. aide/tripwire etc)? I don't typically exclude many files, but I often limit the changes that tripwire notifies me about. For example, if one of my users changes their

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Indra Kusuma
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:37:04PM +0200, Alexander Neumann wrote: # Yes, jailtool takes Debian Package Dependencies and/or CPAN .packlist # files. I didn't know about 'makejail', I think I'll have a look at it... theres also another one called jailer, but if you want to secure your system, then

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:36:06PM +0800, Dion Mendel wrote: > Which files do people exclude when using integrity checkers > (e.g. aide/tripwire etc)? I don't typically exclude many files, but I often limit the changes that tripwire notifies me about. For example, if one of my users changes their

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Tim Haynes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dion Mendel) writes: > I'm not providing an answer, but rather asking another question on this > topic. > > Which files do people exclude when using integrity checkers (e.g. > aide/tripwire etc)? > > Under normal system use, certain files do change (e.g. /etc/mtab, That does? M

Re: Apache Security Release

2002-10-22 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:16:23 -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > It seems to me that many recent updates have included packages for > potato, woody, and sig (sarge?). AFAIK it's more "a few" than it is "many". > Is this trend going to continue? Don't count on it. > I thought sid/sarge was u

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Dion Mendel
Hi all, I'm not providing an answer, but rather asking another question on this topic. Which files do people exclude when using integrity checkers (e.g. aide/tripwire etc)? Under normal system use, certain files do change (e.g. /etc/mtab, /dev/tty*). Including these files in the integrity check

Apache Security Release

2002-10-22 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
It seems to me that many recent updates have included packages for potato, woody, and sig (sarge?). Is this trend going to continue? I thought sid/sarge was unsupported... Regards, -- Phil PGP/GPG Key: http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/ wget -O - http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/key.txt | gpg

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread andrew lattis
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Arthur de Jong wrote: > Apart from that I also use tools like debsums to keep me informed of > integrity (although a lot of packages don't provide all or correct > md5sums) (maybe I should file some bugreports for wrong md5sums) you also might want to checkout tiger, it will

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Tim Haynes
Arthur de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > >> I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a >> lot of things change on their system? >> >> I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having >> configured it well,

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Arthur de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a > lot of things change on their system? > > I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having > configured it well, to c

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread andrew lattis
On 2002/10/22 04:27:26PM +0200, Tue, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folks! > > I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a > lot of things change on their system? > > I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel

AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks! I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a lot of things change on their system? I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having configured it well, to catch the things that might be trojaned wh

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Indra Kusuma
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 12:37:04PM +0200, Alexander Neumann wrote: # Yes, jailtool takes Debian Package Dependencies and/or CPAN .packlist # files. I didn't know about 'makejail', I think I'll have a look at it... theres also another one called jailer, but if you want to secure your system, then

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Tim Haynes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dion Mendel) writes: > I'm not providing an answer, but rather asking another question on this > topic. > > Which files do people exclude when using integrity checkers (e.g. > aide/tripwire etc)? > > Under normal system use, certain files do change (e.g. /etc/mtab, That does? M

Re: Apache Security Release

2002-10-22 Thread J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)
On Tue, Oct 22, 2002 at 11:16:23 -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > It seems to me that many recent updates have included packages for > potato, woody, and sig (sarge?). AFAIK it's more "a few" than it is "many". > Is this trend going to continue? Don't count on it. > I thought sid/sarge was u

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Dion Mendel
Hi all, I'm not providing an answer, but rather asking another question on this topic. Which files do people exclude when using integrity checkers (e.g. aide/tripwire etc)? Under normal system use, certain files do change (e.g. /etc/mtab, /dev/tty*). Including these files in the integrity check

Apache Security Release

2002-10-22 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
It seems to me that many recent updates have included packages for potato, woody, and sig (sarge?). Is this trend going to continue? I thought sid/sarge was unsupported... Regards, -- Phil PGP/GPG Key: http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/ wget -O - http://www.zionlth.org/~plhofmei/key.txt | gpg

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread andrew lattis
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Arthur de Jong wrote: > Apart from that I also use tools like debsums to keep me informed of > integrity (although a lot of packages don't provide all or correct > md5sums) (maybe I should file some bugreports for wrong md5sums) you also might want to checkout tiger, it will

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Tim Haynes
Arthur de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > >> I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a >> lot of things change on their system? >> >> I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having >> configured it well,

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Arthur de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a > lot of things change on their system? > > I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having > configured it well, to c

Re: AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread andrew lattis
On 2002/10/22 04:27:26PM +0200, Tue, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi folks! > > I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a > lot of things change on their system? > > I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel

AIDE Information Overload

2002-10-22 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi folks! I'd like to ask what people do with their AIDE output at times when a lot of things change on their system? I've gone through the AIDE configuration, and I feel like having configured it well, to catch the things that might be trojaned wh

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Alexander Neumann
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Funny ,it's the same 'makejail' does. Does jailtool know about > Debian packages? Once of the nice things about 'makejail' is that it will > automatically take package dependancies as source of information on which > files to put in the 'jail'. Yes, ja

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Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread jgarcian
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=jailtool&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all Jordi > > * Chroot > > > > The linux system call to jail a subtree. > > > > Has to be created and maintained manually. > > You can try 'jailtool', if you like: > > $ apt

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 01:29:40PM +0200, Alexander Neumann wrote: > Hi Jesus, > > Jesus Climent wrote: > > * Chroot > > > > The linux system call to jail a subtree. > > > > Has to be created and maintained manually. > > You can try 'jailtool', if you like: > > $ apt-cache show jailtool > [..

Re: [OT] secure, minimal Debian installation for linux-based thin clients?

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:41:37PM -0700, Chris Majewski wrote: > There is obviously more than one solution here, so I'm looking for > recommendations. We care about security; we don't want to run any > services we don't need, etc. Reliability is key, so your uncle's > friend's broth

Re: ssh "banner"

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 at 03:50:12PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Why isn't it done by default ? > You would have to ask the maintainer... > Oh! Better: file a bug. No! Wait! It's already done [1] >:-|

Re: ssh "banner"

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I'm starting to get bored of pople replying nonsense without tesint it themselves. On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 09:19:01PM +0200, Vasarhelyi asd Daniel wrote: > > issue(5) might help some of you about pre-login banner and daemon(s) > > banner version. > Banner gets diplayed _after_ successful l

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Alexander Neumann
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Funny ,it's the same 'makejail' does. Does jailtool know about > Debian packages? Once of the nice things about 'makejail' is that it will > automatically take package dependancies as source of information on which > files to put in the 'jail'. Yes, ja

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Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread jgarcian
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=jailtool&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all Jordi > > * Chroot > > > > The linux system call to jail a subtree. > > > > Has to be created and maintained manually. > > You can try 'jailtool', if you like: > > $ apt

Re: Securing Apache: vserver or chroot ?

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Oct 19, 2002 at 01:29:40PM +0200, Alexander Neumann wrote: > Hi Jesus, > > Jesus Climent wrote: > > * Chroot > > > > The linux system call to jail a subtree. > > > > Has to be created and maintained manually. > > You can try 'jailtool', if you like: > > $ apt-cache show jailtool > [..

Re: [OT] secure, minimal Debian installation for linux-based thin clients?

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 12:41:37PM -0700, Chris Majewski wrote: > There is obviously more than one solution here, so I'm looking for > recommendations. We care about security; we don't want to run any > services we don't need, etc. Reliability is key, so your uncle's > friend's broth

Re: ssh "banner"

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 11:08:52AM -0400, Phillip Hofmeister wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 at 03:50:12PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Why isn't it done by default ? > You would have to ask the maintainer... > Oh! Better: file a bug. No! Wait! It's already done [1] >:-|

Re: ssh "banner"

2002-10-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I'm starting to get bored of pople replying nonsense without tesint it themselves. On Fri, Oct 18, 2002 at 09:19:01PM +0200, Vasarhelyi asd Daniel wrote: > > issue(5) might help some of you about pre-login banner and daemon(s) > > banner version. > Banner gets diplayed _after_ successful l

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