Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Ted Cabeen
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stefan Srdic writes: > My system is my desktop and my server. The machine is >connected to the internet and I use my own IPTables script to protect my >network. > >I've used the update-rc.d script to remove the inetd init scripts from all >runlevels. But, I still

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Srdic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed 13 Feb 02 19:14, Howland, Curtis wrote: > > Would simply commenting out all the lines in inetd.conf be sufficient? > > > > I realize that this is not the same as uninstalling, but it's not clear > > w

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread gnuser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 maybe this can help: install rcconf, a tool for selecting which scripts from /etc/init.d are going to run at boot time and deselect inetd; it will be disabled, but still on your hard disk you asked for a circumvention of the problem, not for a solut

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Stefan Srdic
On Wed 13 Feb 02 19:14, Howland, Curtis wrote: > Would simply commenting out all the lines in inetd.conf be sufficient? > > I realize that this is not the same as uninstalling, but it's not clear > what the goal is. If the machine is isolated, it doesn't matter. If it's > not isolated, iptables/ipc

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Jamie Heilman
Stefan Srdic wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Woody at home and have no use for the inetd deamon. I > have tried to un-install the package which provides inetd > (netkit-inetd), but it depends on package netbase so if I remove > nekit-inetd I lose netbase. > > How can I circumvent this problem? apt

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Ted Cabeen
In message <02021309001300.00464@NodeFilter>, Stefan Srdic writes: > My system is my desktop and my server. The machine is >connected to the internet and I use my own IPTables script to protect my >network. > >I've used the update-rc.d script to remove the inetd init scripts from all >runlevels

Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Stefan Srdic
Hi, I'm running Woody at home and have no use for the inetd deamon. I have tried to un-install the package which provides inetd (netkit-inetd), but it depends on package netbase so if I remove nekit-inetd I lose netbase. How can I circumvent this problem? Thanks, Stef

RE: Setting apt to mount partitions read|read-only

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Bonner
In the interest of brevity, thanks to everyone who replied on this thread! Jeff Bonner

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Stefan Srdic
On Wed 13 Feb 02 19:14, Howland, Curtis wrote: > Would simply commenting out all the lines in inetd.conf be sufficient? > > I realize that this is not the same as uninstalling, but it's not clear > what the goal is. If the machine is isolated, it doesn't matter. If it's > not isolated, iptables/ip

RE: HELP I've been cracked

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Bonner
On 13 Feb 2002 03:35 PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > But if the machine is restarted, those changes either do not > > persist (same kernel) or are quite obvious (modified kernel > > overwrites the old one, etc). On the other hand, having a > > hostile module inserted into the kernel not only al

Re: Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Jamie Heilman
Stefan Srdic wrote: > Hi, > > I'm running Woody at home and have no use for the inetd deamon. I > have tried to un-install the package which provides inetd > (netkit-inetd), but it depends on package netbase so if I remove > nekit-inetd I lose netbase. > > How can I circumvent this problem? ap

Re: Setting apt to mount partitions read|read-only

2002-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Jeff Bonner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Securing Debian HOWTO makes mention of the possibility that you can > set a partition as read-only, to further protect the various things in > /usr/bin for example. Then when you apt-get upgrade, you ca

Un-installing inetd on Woody.

2002-02-13 Thread Stefan Srdic
Hi, I'm running Woody at home and have no use for the inetd deamon. I have tried to un-install the package which provides inetd (netkit-inetd), but it depends on package netbase so if I remove nekit-inetd I lose netbase. How can I circumvent this problem? Thanks, Stef -- To UNSUBS

RE: Setting apt to mount partitions read|read-only

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Bonner
In the interest of brevity, thanks to everyone who replied on this thread! Jeff Bonner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: HELP I've been cracked

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Bonner
On 13 Feb 2002 03:35 PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > But if the machine is restarted, those changes either do not > > persist (same kernel) or are quite obvious (modified kernel > > overwrites the old one, etc). On the other hand, having a > > hostile module inserted into the kernel not only a

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 9:16:48 PM, Reagan Blundell wrote: > Feb 13 17:04:40 iridium named[1525]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: \ > file not found > Its looking for the rndc.key file in /etc/bind/ which would be > /chroot/named/etc/bind > You have it in /chroot/named/etc - hence it can

Re: Setting apt to mount partitions read|read-only

2002-02-13 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Jeff Bonner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The Securing Debian HOWTO makes mention of the possibility that you can > set a partition as read-only, to further protect the various things in > /usr/bin for example. Then when you apt-get upgrade, you c

Re: HELP I've been cracked

2002-02-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 02:54 PM, Jeff Bonner wrote: But if the machine is restarted, those changes either do not persist (same kernel) or are quite obvious (modified kernel overwrites the old one, etc). On the other hand, having a hostile module inserted into the kernel not only al

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 9:16:48 PM, Reagan Blundell wrote: > Feb 13 17:04:40 iridium named[1525]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: \ > file not found > Its looking for the rndc.key file in /etc/bind/ which would be > /chroot/named/etc/bind > You have it in /chroot/named/etc - hence it ca

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Reagan Blundell
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:54:00PM +0100, Marcus Frings wrote: > Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 5:52:38 PM, Alan James wrote: > > > Your English is very good actually, you need not apologise. > > Thanks. :-) > > >>*a* and *b* confuses me a little. Although rndc.key is in the chrooted > >>/chroot

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 8:33:08 PM, Alain Tesio wrote: > I'll send another post when it's ready, probably this Sunday. Okay, I won't miss your posting. :-) Regards, Marcus -- Fickle minds, pretentious attitudes and ugly make-up on ugly faces... The Goth Goose Of The Week: http://www.goth

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Alain Tesio
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:26:11 +0100 Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Huh, you've put quite much in the jail. I wonder why this might be > necessary since the HOWTO just suggests to put very few files like the > configuration and zone data files in the chroot jail. I'll try to > resolve th

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 7:26:56 PM, Alain Tesio wrote: > I'm writing a script to chroot services automatically, > I've tested it with bind9, here is the log and the > files I have in the jail, it looks to work. Huh, you've put quite much in the jail. I wonder why this might be necessary si

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 5:52:38 PM, Alan James wrote: > Your English is very good actually, you need not apologise. Thanks. :-) >>*a* and *b* confuses me a little. Although rndc.key is in the chrooted >>/chroot/named/etc/ I get this error message (in addition > you mean /chroot/named/etc

RE: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Steven
IMHO, putting a box on the interweb has security implications. But port-forwarding in itself isn't exactly a security problem. I use port forwarding to forward packets do a dmz, so on the off-chance that I am r00t'd, all they have access to is the dmz. They still would have to be real sneaky to get

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Alain Tesio
Hi, I didn't look at your problem precisely, I'm writing a script to chroot services automatically, I've tested it with bind9, here is the log and the files I have in the jail, it looks to work. Hope this helps, I'll release the script soon. Alain bind9.find Description: Binary data bind9.log

Re: HELP I've been cracked

2002-02-13 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 02:54 PM, Jeff Bonner wrote: > > But if the machine is restarted, those changes either do not persist > (same kernel) or are quite obvious (modified kernel overwrites the old > one, etc). On the other hand, having a hostile module inserted > into the > kernel n

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Reagan Blundell
On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:54:00PM +0100, Marcus Frings wrote: > Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 5:52:38 PM, Alan James wrote: > > > Your English is very good actually, you need not apologise. > > Thanks. :-) > > >>*a* and *b* confuses me a little. Although rndc.key is in the chrooted > >>/chroo

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 8:33:08 PM, Alain Tesio wrote: > I'll send another post when it's ready, probably this Sunday. Okay, I won't miss your posting. :-) Regards, Marcus -- Fickle minds, pretentious attitudes and ugly make-up on ugly faces... The Goth Goose Of The Week: http://www.got

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Alain Tesio
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:26:11 +0100 Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Huh, you've put quite much in the jail. I wonder why this might be > necessary since the HOWTO just suggests to put very few files like the > configuration and zone data files in the chroot jail. I'll try to > resolve t

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 7:26:56 PM, Alain Tesio wrote: > I'm writing a script to chroot services automatically, > I've tested it with bind9, here is the log and the > files I have in the jail, it looks to work. Huh, you've put quite much in the jail. I wonder why this might be necessary s

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Alan James
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:19:33 +0100, Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear all, > >first I would like to apologize for my English as I am not a native >speaker. Your English is very good actually, you need not apologise. >*a* and *b* confuses me a little. Although rndc.key is in the chro

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Wednesday, February 13, 2002, 5:52:38 PM, Alan James wrote: > Your English is very good actually, you need not apologise. Thanks. :-) >>*a* and *b* confuses me a little. Although rndc.key is in the chrooted >>/chroot/named/etc/ I get this error message (in addition > you mean /chroot/named/et

RE: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Steven
IMHO, putting a box on the interweb has security implications. But port-forwarding in itself isn't exactly a security problem. I use port forwarding to forward packets do a dmz, so on the off-chance that I am r00t'd, all they have access to is the dmz. They still would have to be real sneaky to ge

Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Dear all, first I would like to apologize for my English as I am not a native speaker. I'm using Debian Woody with the current bind 9.2.0 and I'm trying to put it in a chroot jail. I downloaded Scott's "Chroot-BIND HOWTO" and it worked very well except for a few small things. The chroot jail is se

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Alain Tesio
Hi, I didn't look at your problem precisely, I'm writing a script to chroot services automatically, I've tested it with bind9, here is the log and the files I have in the jail, it looks to work. Hope this helps, I'll release the script soon. Alain bind9.find Description: Binary data bind9.l

Re: Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Alan James
On Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:19:33 +0100, Marcus Frings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dear all, > >first I would like to apologize for my English as I am not a native >speaker. Your English is very good actually, you need not apologise. >*a* and *b* confuses me a little. Although rndc.key is in the chr

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Rishi L Khan
It seems to accomplish the example you posed, you need 2 external IPs. Say they were 1.1.1.1 and 1.1.1.2 for example. Then in DNS you could do: ftp1 -> 1.1.1.1 ftp2 -> 1.1.1.2 www1 -> 1.1.1.1 www2 -> 1.1.1.2 And on your firewall do: 1.1.1.1 port 21 -> 192.168.0.10 1.1.1.2 port 21 -> 192.168.0.50

Problems with chrooting bind 9.2.0

2002-02-13 Thread Marcus Frings
Dear all, first I would like to apologize for my English as I am not a native speaker. I'm using Debian Woody with the current bind 9.2.0 and I'm trying to put it in a chroot jail. I downloaded Scott's "Chroot-BIND HOWTO" and it worked very well except for a few small things. The chroot jail is s

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Ralf Dreibrodt
Hi, Ramon Acedo wrote: > > I'd like to have a map like this: > > ftp1.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.10 > ftp2.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.50 > www1.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.12 > www2.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.33 that´s hard, tricky and not always possible. most protocols (e.g. ftp, telnet,

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
I think it is worth pointing out that port-forwarding has security implications. If one of your services is compromised (even if it is not running as root) the attacker now has a good amount of access to your local/internal network. I would only forward ports when absolutely needed and only t

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Ramon Acedo
Hi again! Thanks for your quickly answers, I think I hadn't explained enough clearly in the first mail. The problem is the following: I have a SINGLE public ip with an associated domain. In that host I have a DNS server, mail server, web, etc. The important point is at the DNS. What i'd l

Setting apt to mount partitions read|read-only

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Bonner
The Securing Debian HOWTO makes mention of the possibility that you can set a partition as read-only, to further protect the various things in /usr/bin for example. Then when you apt-get upgrade, you can configure apt to automagically turn off the read-only while needed, then turn it back on (faci

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Rishi L Khan
It seems to accomplish the example you posed, you need 2 external IPs. Say they were 1.1.1.1 and 1.1.1.2 for example. Then in DNS you could do: ftp1 -> 1.1.1.1 ftp2 -> 1.1.1.2 www1 -> 1.1.1.1 www2 -> 1.1.1.2 And on your firewall do: 1.1.1.1 port 21 -> 192.168.0.10 1.1.1.2 port 21 -> 192.168.0.50

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Ralf Dreibrodt
Hi, Ramon Acedo wrote: > > I'd like to have a map like this: > > ftp1.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.10 > ftp2.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.50 > www1.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.12 > www2.mydomain.net ---> 192.168.1.33 that´s hard, tricky and not always possible. most protocols (e.g. ftp, telnet,

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Phillip Hofmeister
I think it is worth pointing out that port-forwarding has security implications. If one of your services is compromised (even if it is not running as root) the attacker now has a good amount of access to your local/internal network. I would only forward ports when absolutely needed and only t

Re: Emulate real ip's to access intranet hosts from outside

2002-02-13 Thread Ramon Acedo
Hi again! Thanks for your quickly answers, I think I hadn't explained enough clearly in the first mail. The problem is the following: I have a SINGLE public ip with an associated domain. In that host I have a DNS server, mail server, web, etc. The important point is at the DNS. What i'd

Setting apt to mount partitions read|read-only

2002-02-13 Thread Jeff Bonner
The Securing Debian HOWTO makes mention of the possibility that you can set a partition as read-only, to further protect the various things in /usr/bin for example. Then when you apt-get upgrade, you can configure apt to automagically turn off the read-only while needed, then turn it back on (fac