Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously martin f krafft wrote: > because it's filtering based on the IP information. brides speak no > IP. It filters based on packet content that just happens to be IP information. Just like the u32 filter, except the syntax is easier. It still bridges. Wichert. -- ___

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread martin f krafft
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.02 22:30:02+0100]: > Why is a filtering bridge no longer a bridge? It does not route, it > does not change packets, it just selectively does not pass some on. > A broken bridge maybe from a strict standpoint, but still a bridge. because it's filterin

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously martin f krafft wrote: > because it's filtering based on the IP information. brides speak no > IP. It filters based on packet content that just happens to be IP information. Just like the u32 filter, except the syntax is easier. It still bridges. Wichert. -- __

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously martin f krafft wrote: > oh my, everyone is misunderstanding my non-important, trivial point. i > am not doubting that linux bridging and netfilter do interface, i am > merely saying that such a fusion is not a bridge anymore. Why is a filtering bridge no longer a bridge? It does not ro

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread martin f krafft
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.02 22:30:02+0100]: > Why is a filtering bridge no longer a bridge? It does not route, it > does not change packets, it just selectively does not pass some on. > A broken bridge maybe from a strict standpoint, but still a bridge. because it's filteri

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously martin f krafft wrote: > oh my, everyone is misunderstanding my non-important, trivial point. i > am not doubting that linux bridging and netfilter do interface, i am > merely saying that such a fusion is not a bridge anymore. Why is a filtering bridge no longer a bridge? It does not r

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread martin f krafft
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.02 12:59:38+0100]: > Wrong :). Someone (forgot his name unfortunately) already implemented > this. If you ask on the netfilter list they should be able to point > you to the right patch. oh my, everyone is misunderstanding my non-important, trivial p

Re: VI wrapper for SUDO? - another bad way ??

2001-12-02 Thread martin f krafft
* William R. Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.11.29 18:00:40-0800]: > Question: Is it generally considered secure enough to sudo a bash > script like your sucpaliases? Or should a C equivalent be written > instead? no. especially not the quick'n'dirty version that alvin posted. i am not criticizing

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread martin f krafft
* Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.02 12:59:38+0100]: > Wrong :). Someone (forgot his name unfortunately) already implemented > this. If you ask on the netfilter list they should be able to point > you to the right patch. oh my, everyone is misunderstanding my non-important, trivial

Re: VI wrapper for SUDO? - another bad way ??

2001-12-02 Thread martin f krafft
* William R. Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.11.29 18:00:40-0800]: > Question: Is it generally considered secure enough to sudo a bash > script like your sucpaliases? Or should a C equivalent be written > instead? no. especially not the quick'n'dirty version that alvin posted. i am not criticizin

Re: Where should I start from ?

2001-12-02 Thread Remco van de Meent
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously John DOE wrote: > > PS : Thanks a lot for your help. I don't know how familiar you are > > with cryptographic concepts but I already have the original sheets of > > SSL from Netscape and SSL is not a bilateral entity authentication, > > identification protocol y

Re: Security hole in Linux kernel itself? FW: [FreeBSD-users-jp 65877] Re: nslookup

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Howland, Curtis wrote: > Excuse me if this is old hat, has anyone else heard of a vulnerability > like this? It sounds strange. The Linux kernel does not do seperate caching for NFS as far as I know, and all caching is done in kernel space which you can not see from userspace (unless yo

Re: VI wrapper for SUDO?

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ted Cabeen wrote: > However, thinking about it, this doesn't work. If you're editing as root, you > can use :e to switch to editing a SUID root file (any one you can write to > will work), delete the entire contents, and then use :r to bring in the > /bin/sh executable. But you can re

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously martin f krafft wrote: > okay, this is an interesting point. however, all i was saying is that > the linux bridging project is commiting suicide (as the bridging > project) as soon as they interface with netfilter or anything else > that works with IP. Wrong :). Someone (forgot his name

Re: Where should I start from ?

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John DOE wrote: > PS : Thanks a lot for your help. I don't know how familiar you are > with cryptographic concepts but I already have the original sheets of > SSL from Netscape and SSL is not a bilateral entity authentication, > identification protocol you only know that the server at th

Re: Where should I start from ?

2001-12-02 Thread Remco van de Meent
Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously John DOE wrote: > > PS : Thanks a lot for your help. I don't know how familiar you are > > with cryptographic concepts but I already have the original sheets of > > SSL from Netscape and SSL is not a bilateral entity authentication, > > identification protocol

Re: Security hole in Linux kernel itself? FW: [FreeBSD-users-jp 65877] Re: nslookup

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Howland, Curtis wrote: > Excuse me if this is old hat, has anyone else heard of a vulnerability > like this? It sounds strange. The Linux kernel does not do seperate caching for NFS as far as I know, and all caching is done in kernel space which you can not see from userspace (unless y

Re: VI wrapper for SUDO?

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ted Cabeen wrote: > However, thinking about it, this doesn't work. If you're editing as root, you > can use :e to switch to editing a SUID root file (any one you can write to > will work), delete the entire contents, and then use :r to bring in the > /bin/sh executable. But you can r

Re: iptables with a linux bridge

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously martin f krafft wrote: > okay, this is an interesting point. however, all i was saying is that > the linux bridging project is commiting suicide (as the bridging > project) as soon as they interface with netfilter or anything else > that works with IP. Wrong :). Someone (forgot his nam

Re: Where should I start from ?

2001-12-02 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John DOE wrote: > PS : Thanks a lot for your help. I don't know how familiar you are > with cryptographic concepts but I already have the original sheets of > SSL from Netscape and SSL is not a bilateral entity authentication, > identification protocol you only know that the server at t