Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:55:00PM -0700, Mike Fisk wrote: > There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to get all of the unstable > packages necessary to address reported security problems. You either > have to watch the security mailing lists and upgrade individual packages > yourself or do a fu

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:28:29PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > hour:/home/kr0n# ls -ls /dev/fb0 > > > 0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 5 14:44 /dev/fb0 > > > > apparently writing random garbage into the fb devices is not supposed > > to cause a ker

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Cordes
On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 12:55:00PM -0700, Mike Fisk wrote: > There doesn't seem to be an automatic way to get all of the unstable > packages necessary to address reported security problems. You either > have to watch the security mailing lists and upgrade individual packages > yourself or do a f

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:28:29PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Ethan Benson wrote: > > > > hour:/home/kr0n# ls -ls /dev/fb0 > > > 0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 5 14:44 /dev/fb0 > > > > apparently writing random garbage into the fb devices is not supposed > > to cause a ke

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ethan Benson wrote: > > hour:/home/kr0n# ls -ls /dev/fb0 > > 0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 5 14:44 /dev/fb0 > > apparently writing random garbage into the fb devices is not supposed > to cause a kernel panic, that seems to be a bug in the framebuffer > driver in my kernel.

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > > It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted > > > with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a > > > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > > > ta

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
Ethan Benson wrote: > > hour:/home/kr0n# ls -ls /dev/fb0 > > 0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 5 14:44 /dev/fb0 > > apparently writing random garbage into the fb devices is not supposed > to cause a kernel panic, that seems to be a bug in the framebuffer > driver in my kernel.

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > > It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted > > > with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a > > > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > > > t

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitz
> apparently writing random garbage into the fb devices is not supposed > to cause a kernel panic, that seems to be a bug in the framebuffer That's just MHO. I've not tried to reproduce this with atyfb, and I'd probably need an objdump -d --start-address= output from you if I cannot reproduce it h

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 06:07:55AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Virginie-ML wrote: > > > > I don't :) > > Especially when I don't use esound... > > do you have it installed? gnome programs love to start all kinds of > little daemons and such all on their

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Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > Shouldn't such a cookie be in /var/state, /var/run or at least /tmp? > I really wouldn't like such a think in my *root*! It's a user thing, not a system-wide thing. It's much like the .Xauthority file, except less sane. Wichert. -- __

RE: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:05:24PM +0100, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: > > > Shouldn't such a cookie be in /var/state, /var/run or at > > > least /tmp? > > > I really wouldn't like such a think in my *root*! > > > > I think it's normally in the user

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Virginie-ML wrote: > > I don't :) > Especially when I don't use esound... do you have it installed? gnome programs love to start all kinds of little daemons and such all on their own, esd is one of them. even if you don't use gnome as your desktop envir

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:00:10PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 02:54:19PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Virginie-ML wrote: > > > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > > > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very stran

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:21:40AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > > burden they should not run unstable. > > To me this sounds like: > > Every single unst

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user must track debian-security-announce. versus: One unstable user

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:54:12AM -0200, Philipe Gaspar wrote: > this is some strange > > hour:/home/kr0n# cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 > bash: /dev/fb0: No such device not really, it just means you don't have a framebuffer configured in your kernel. intel machines usually do not use a framebuff

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > The answer is just to watch one single list - debian-security-announce. > > That's what it's for :) > > I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here. If the answer is to > watch the debian-security-announce list, then what preven

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Hammers
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 02:54:19PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Virginie-ML wrote: > > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and > > I don't like the _auth in its name... > It's a cookie us

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Philipe Gaspar
this is some strange hour:/home/kr0n# cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 bash: /dev/fb0: No such device hour:/home/kr0n# ls -ls /dev/fb0 0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 5 14:44 /dev/fb0 Ethan Benson wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:09:23AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: So 0620 m

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Michael Schmitz
> apparently writing random garbage into the fb devices is not supposed > to cause a kernel panic, that seems to be a bug in the framebuffer That's just MHO. I've not tried to reproduce this with atyfb, and I'd probably need an objdump -d --start-address= output from you if I cannot reproduce it

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Virginie-ML wrote: > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and > I don't like the _auth in its name... It's a cookie used by esound to authorize clients to connect to a running esd process. Espe

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 06:07:55AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Virginie-ML wrote: > > > > I don't :) > > Especially when I don't use esound... > > do you have it installed? gnome programs love to start all kinds of > little daemons and such all on thei

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Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Hammers wrote: > Shouldn't such a cookie be in /var/state, /var/run or at least /tmp? > I really wouldn't like such a think in my *root*! It's a user thing, not a system-wide thing. It's much like the .Xauthority file, except less sane. Wichert. -- _

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> > It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted > > with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a > > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > > task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the > > conf

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-11-19 Mike Fisk wrote: [big snip] > Is that possible? Would the security team be willing to maintain such a > pseudo-package? Something very close to this kind of task package has been discussed recently on debian-devel and we come to the conclusion that it won't be helpful or easy to maint

RE: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:05:24PM +0100, Jean-Marc V. Liotier wrote: > > > Shouldn't such a cookie be in /var/state, /var/run or at > > > least /tmp? > > > I really wouldn't like such a think in my *root*! > > > > I think it's normally in the use

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:50:29PM +0100, Virginie-ML wrote: > > I don't :) > Especially when I don't use esound... do you have it installed? gnome programs love to start all kinds of little daemons and such all on their own, esd is one of them. even if you don't use gnome as your desktop envi

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 03:00:10PM +0100, Christian Hammers wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 02:54:19PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Previously Virginie-ML wrote: > > > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > > > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very stra

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 09:21:40AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > > burden they should not run unstable. > > To me this sounds like: > > Every single uns

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> Those who choose to run unstable choose to take upon themselves > more responsibility/inconvenience, if they are unwilling to bear that > burden they should not run unstable. To me this sounds like: Every single unstable user must track debian-security-announce. versus: One unstable user

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:54:12AM -0200, Philipe Gaspar wrote: > this is some strange > > hour:/home/kr0n# cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 > bash: /dev/fb0: No such device not really, it just means you don't have a framebuffer configured in your kernel. intel machines usually do not use a framebuf

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:21:10AM -0500, Itai Zukerman wrote: > > The answer is just to watch one single list - debian-security-announce. > > That's what it's for :) > > I'm not sure I understand the reasoning here. If the answer is to > watch the debian-security-announce list, then what preve

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Hammers
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 02:54:19PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Virginie-ML wrote: > > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and > > I don't like the _auth in its name... > It's a cookie u

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Philipe Gaspar
this is some strange hour:/home/kr0n# cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 bash: /dev/fb0: No such device hour:/home/kr0n# ls -ls /dev/fb0 0 crw--w--w-1 root tty 29, 0 Jul 5 14:44 /dev/fb0 Ethan Benson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:09:23AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > >> So

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Virginie-ML wrote: > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and > I don't like the _auth in its name... It's a cookie used by esound to authorize clients to connect to a running esd process. Esp

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Itai Zukerman
> > It would be very helpful if there was a pseudo-package that conflicted > > with packages that have known security problems that have been fixed in a > > later version. That way one could do a regular 'apt-get install > > task-unstable-security-updates' and cause the upgrade of all the > > con

Re: task-unstable-security-updates?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-11-19 Mike Fisk wrote: [big snip] > Is that possible? Would the security team be willing to maintain such a > pseudo-package? Something very close to this kind of task package has been discussed recently on debian-devel and we come to the conclusion that it won't be helpful or easy to main

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:09:23AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > So 0620 might be better, with /dev/fb in group video or a dedicated group. that seems more reasonable. > This is on a SuSE 6.4 system BTW: > > crw-rw 1 root video 29, 0 Mar 11 2000 /dev/fb0 this is broken IMO,

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Ben
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:33:32AM +0100, Virginie-ML wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:26:28AM +0100, Johan Bergström wrote: > > > # cat /.esd_auth > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\x9e^@@ > > > > > > There is only this line in ... > > > > > > Could anybody reassure me please ?:) > >

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Johan Bergström
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Virginie-ML wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:26:28AM +0100, Johan Bergström wrote: > > > # cat /.esd_auth > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\x9e^@@ > > > > > > There is only this line in ... > > > > > > Could anybody reassure me please ?:) > > > > I belive its pa

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:26:28AM +0100, Johan Bergström wrote: > > # cat /.esd_auth > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\x9e^@@ > > > > There is only this line in ... > > > > Could anybody reassure me please ?:) > > I belive its part of the Enlightenment Sound Daemon. Some sort of X magic

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Johan Bergström
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Virginie-ML wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and > I don't like the _auth in its name... > > # cat /.esd_auth > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\x9e^

strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
Hi all, I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and I don't like the _auth in its name... # cat /.esd_auth [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]@\x9e^@@ There is only this line in ... Could anybody reassure

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
Samu wrote: On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 06:04:01AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: does anyone know why debian has /dev/fb* with 622 permissions? the reason i ask is there is a pretty nasty security problem with this, try the following: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 on my system i get a instant ker

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:09:23AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > So 0620 might be better, with /dev/fb in group video or a dedicated group. that seems more reasonable. > This is on a SuSE 6.4 system BTW: > > crw-rw 1 root video 29, 0 Mar 11 2000 /dev/fb0 this is broken IMO,

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Ben
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:33:32AM +0100, Virginie-ML wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:26:28AM +0100, Johan Bergström wrote: > > > # cat /.esd_auth > > > ^M?^C@à:^C@^\óÿ¿^@\x9e^@@ > > > > > > There is only this line in ... > > > > > > Could anybody reassure me please ?:) > > > > I belive its

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Johan Bergström
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Virginie-ML wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:26:28AM +0100, Johan Bergström wrote: > > > # cat /.esd_auth > > > ^M?^C@à:^C@^\óÿ¿^@\x9e^@@ > > > > > > There is only this line in ... > > > > > > Could anybody reassure me please ?:) > > > > I belive its part of the Enlight

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 11:26:28AM +0100, Johan Bergström wrote: > > # cat /.esd_auth > > ^M?^C@à:^C@^\óÿ¿^@\x9e^@@ > > > > There is only this line in ... > > > > Could anybody reassure me please ?:) > > I belive its part of the Enlightenment Sound Daemon. Some sort of X magic > cookie or somet

Re: strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Johan Bergström
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000, Virginie-ML wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: > It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and > I don't like the _auth in its name... > > # cat /.esd_auth > ^M?^C@à:^C@^\óÿ¿^@\x9e^@@ > > There is

strange file

2000-11-20 Thread Virginie-ML
Hi all, I've found a curious hidden file at the root of my system: It looks like an esound thing but its content is very strange for me and I don't like the _auth in its name... # cat /.esd_auth ^M?^C@à:^C@^\óÿ¿^@\x9e^@@ There is only this line in ... Could anybody reassure me please ?:)

Re: /dev/fb* permissions, local DoS

2000-11-20 Thread Michel Dänzer
Samu wrote: > On Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 06:04:01AM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > >> does anyone know why debian has /dev/fb* with 622 permissions? >> >> the reason i ask is there is a pretty nasty security problem with >> this, try the following: >> >> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 >> >> on my

Re: Bug#77257: FWD: Joe's Own Editor File Link Vulnerability

2000-11-20 Thread Alexander Viro
On Sun, 19 Nov 2000, Joey Hess wrote: > Alexander Viro wrote: > > a) take a look at /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh. Around "Cleaning: /tmp", that is. > > So you're editing a file in /tmp and you're worried about the DEADJOE > file lying around after a reboot? What about the file itself? cd /tmp joe ~