Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-02-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:55:32 + Stephen Gran wrote: >This one time, at band camp, Michael Tautschnig said: >> There is just a slightly archive-specific problem: A package in main >> must not depend on something outside main (at least so I guess, I >> couldn't find the docs stating this rightaway

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-02-02 Thread Luk Claes
Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Michael Tautschnig said: >> There is just a slightly archive-specific problem: A package in main >> must not depend on something outside main (at least so I guess, I >> couldn't find the docs stating this rightaway). We'd thus need some >> clamav p

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-02-02 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Michael Tautschnig said: > There is just a slightly archive-specific problem: A package in main > must not depend on something outside main (at least so I guess, I > couldn't find the docs stating this rightaway). We'd thus need some > clamav package in main, and not on

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-02-02 Thread aCaB
Michael Tautschnig wrote: > There is just a slightly archive-specific problem: A package in main must not > depend on something outside main (at least so I guess, I couldn't find the > docs > stating this rightaway). We'd thus need some clamav package in main, and not > only in volatile. Which mor

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Scott Kitterman said: > One question I have (I have not dealt with volatile before) is about > support for multiple releases. Does it have separate pockets for stable > and oldstable? Yes, it's a (semi-)standard dak install, so it understands all the release stuff j

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:56:43 +0100 Michael Tautschnig wrote: >[...] >> > >> > We had discussed this during the Security Team meeting in Essen: We believe >> > clamav shouldn't be included in stable; malware scan engines are a constantly >> > moving target and it's pointless to backport changes

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > [...] (nice technical insight) > >> In my opinion all the programs with the ability to talk to clamd (or to > >> invoke clamscan/clamdscan) can be safely left under stable. The user has > >> still got the ability to use an updated clamav from volatile with no > >> pr

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Luk Claes
Michael Tautschnig wrote: > [...] (nice technical insight) >> In my opinion all the programs with the ability to talk to clamd (or to >> invoke clamscan/clamdscan) can be safely left under stable. The user has >> still got the ability to use an updated clamav from volatile with no >> problems at al

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] (nice technical insight) > > In my opinion all the programs with the ability to talk to clamd (or to > invoke clamscan/clamdscan) can be safely left under stable. The user has > still got the ability to use an updated clamav from volatile with no > problems at all. > On the other hand, progr

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] > > > > We had discussed this during the Security Team meeting in Essen: We believe > > clamav shouldn't be included in stable; malware scan engines are a > > constantly > > moving target and it's pointless to backport changes since new signatures > > constantly require new scan engine feat

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-31 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[...] > > I maintain klamav. As I understand it, DM's don't have upload rights to > volatile. I don't really have time to deal with sponsorship hassles > currently, so I'd probably orphan the package. > I don't think that these issues should be considered showstoppers for a move to volatile.

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-29 Thread aCaB
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 07:01:38PM +, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Philipp Kern said: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:50:19PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > I maintain klamav. As I understand it, DM's don't have upload rights to > > > volatile. I don't really have t

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-29 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Philipp Kern said: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:50:19PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I maintain klamav. As I understand it, DM's don't have upload rights to > > volatile. I don't really have time to deal with sponsorship hassles > > currently, so I'd probably o

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 05:50:19PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I maintain klamav. As I understand it, DM's don't have upload rights to > volatile. I don't really have time to deal with sponsorship hassles > currently, so I'd probably orphan the package. So clamav is not sufficently modular

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:00:04 +0100 Alexander Wirt wrote: >Moritz Muehlenhoff schrieb am Wednesday, den 28. January 2009: > >> On 2009-01-25, Michael Tautschnig wrote: >> > >> > --===6401238421216507687== >> > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; >> >protocol="applicat

Re: The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-28 Thread Alexander Wirt
Moritz Muehlenhoff schrieb am Wednesday, den 28. January 2009: > On 2009-01-25, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > > > --===6401238421216507687== > > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6" > > Content-Dispo

Re: The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-28 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2009-01-25, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > --===6401238421216507687== > Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; > protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6" > Content-Disposition: inline > > > --UfEAyuTBtIjiZzX6 > Content-Type: text/plain; charse

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Martin Schulze said: > > Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > > In the clamav packaging team we had recurring discussion about how to > > > deal with > > > clamav in the near (== lenny) and more distant (>= squeeze) future. The > > > current > > > situa

Re: [Pkg-clamav-devel] The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-25 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Martin Schulze said: > Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > In the clamav packaging team we had recurring discussion about how to deal > > with > > clamav in the near (== lenny) and more distant (>= squeeze) future. The > > current > > situation is as follows: > > > > - We'

Re: The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Tautschnig wrote: > In the clamav packaging team we had recurring discussion about how to deal > with > clamav in the near (== lenny) and more distant (>= squeeze) future. The > current > situation is as follows: > > - We've got severly outdated clamav packages in etch(-security). > - A

The future of clamav wrt. stable/volatile

2009-01-25 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Dear Release Team, In the clamav packaging team we had recurring discussion about how to deal with clamav in the near (== lenny) and more distant (>= squeeze) future. The current situation is as follows: - We've got severly outdated clamav packages in etch(-security). - A few packages depend on c