Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-15 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, back from vacation, I'm working on my mail backlog. I've been told that -release is not a discussion list. What would be a more appropriate list for discussing release goals and release strategies? Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:02:47AM -0700, Thoma

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:02:47AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 13:30 +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > > [Trying to reply for Frank, since he's on vacation...] > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This particular problem only exists because you're providi

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-04 Thread Florent Rougon
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the problem is that the new packages aren't a superset; you > can't reliably put in the new package and expect all the previously > working bits to still keep working. Which specific problem are you referring to? -- Florent -- To UNSUB

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 13:30 +0200, Florent Rougon wrote: > [Trying to reply for Frank, since he's on vacation...] > > Hi, > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This particular problem only exists because you're providing tetex-bin and > > tetex-extra packages that don't have the sa

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-04 Thread Florent Rougon
[Trying to reply for Frank, since he's on vacation...] Hi, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This particular problem only exists because you're providing tetex-bin and > tetex-extra packages that don't have the same semantics as previous > versions. As Frank explained, it is impossibl

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 08:50:47AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> - tetex-bin and tetex-extra do still exist, as metapackages, and we > >> would like to have the freedom to change their dependencies as we > >> learn about users' needs, without bothe

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-02 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> - tetex-bin and tetex-extra do still exist, as metapackages, and we >> would like to have the freedom to change their dependencies as we >> learn about users' needs, without bothering whether some package is >> broken by this. > > Which precisely

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-07-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 07:32:58PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I think this is a useful case for mass-bugfiling, and that any NMUers > > of the affected packages should consider fixing these issues /when an NMU is > > already needed/, it's my im

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-06-26 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi Frank, On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 07:10:09PM CEST, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Release Team, > > the TeX Task Force proposes the following release goal: > > "No dependencies (Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends{-Indep}) on > tetex-* and texlive-full, only justified dep

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-06-26 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I think this is a useful case for mass-bugfiling, and that any NMUers > of the affected packages should consider fixing these issues /when an NMU is > already needed/, it's my impression that the alternative dependency is of > only superficial impo

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-06-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 07:10:09PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Dear Release Team, > the TeX Task Force proposes the following release goal: > "No dependencies (Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends{-Indep}) on > tetex-* and texlive-full, only justified dep's on texlive", > with the userta

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-06-25 Thread Luk Claes
Frank Küster wrote: > Hi, Hi Frank > I wonder why nobody answered to this - when and/or how will it be > decided whether this is a release goal? The current status of proposed Release Goals can be found on http://release.debian.org/lenny-goals.txt as was mentioned in the Release Team Meeting res

Re: Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-06-25 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, I wonder why nobody answered to this - when and/or how will it be decided whether this is a release goal? Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Release Team, > > the TeX Task Force proposes the following release goal: > > "No dependencies (Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends{

Release Goal Proposal: texlive-transition

2007-06-21 Thread Frank Küster
Dear Release Team, the TeX Task Force proposes the following release goal: "No dependencies (Depends/Recommends/Suggests/Build-Depends{-Indep}) on tetex-* and texlive-full, only justified dep's on texlive", with the usertag-shortname "texlive-transition" with the rationale: , | The tetex