Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi. Please, this requires *no reply* AT ALL, we don't need to waste more time, the decision has been made already. I'm not arguing or what so ever, but I think I still need to comment on the comments, just for the record, to tell what happened, and to tell what's behind the code being reviewed.

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-11-08 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:47:54PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > As it stands, it's unreasonable to even try working on the 0.30.x branch > for Squeeze, given the short amount of time remaining. I feel very sad > about it, but as there's no way to convince the RT that the 0.32.x > branch is in a v

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-11-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I have mixed feelings here. At the same time, I want to say sorry for insisting so much, and I feel I'm a jerk to do so. But at the same time I don't feel happy about the final outcome, just because of a timing issue, and I know the package is in

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
> - ask ftp masters for a removal of DTC in Squeeze, then I'll use > backports.d.o (all my messages to this thread are to avoid this which > would really make me sad for all the time of Squeeze until Wheezy...). > If you guys stick to the above list, that's the only solution. > We don't need

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi Neil! First, I have listen to you in the "this week in Debian" podcast. It was fun. I wish I was living in Cambridge with 9 other DDs, I feel alone here in Shanghai (lucky, Li Daobing lives here now)! :) Neil McGovern wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > Firstly, please accept my apologies for the lack of

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 09:25:52PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Can we move forward and discuss what should be done now, rather than > > discussing the past? > > > > Thomas > > It's been more than 10 days, and I still have no answer to what I will > be allowed to chang

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-15 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 15/10/2010 15:25, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Can we move forward and discuss what should be done now, rather than >> discussing the past? >> >> Thomas > > It's been more than 10 days, and I still have no answer to what I will > be allowed to change/fix. Each time I've b

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-15 Thread Thomas Goirand
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Can we move forward and discuss what should be done now, rather than > discussing the past? > > Thomas It's been more than 10 days, and I still have no answer to what I will be allowed to change/fix. Each time I've been asking things about DTC to the RT, is it normal that

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Philipp Kern wrote: > On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:17:54AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> I know what I wrote, I know what has been written to me. I've been told >> that my message has been forwarded to the release team (however, it >> never has been written to me that it has been forwarded to a pub

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Oct 07, 2010 at 02:17:54AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I know what I wrote, I know what has been written to me. I've been told > that my message has been forwarded to the release team (however, it > never has been written to me that it has been forwarded to a public > list). It would tak

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 10/06/2010 01:09 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Mehdi Dogguy wrote: >>> On 10/06/2010 09:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Having no comments on my plans with v0.32.x when telling some RT members in August, I thought it was fine. >>> >>> I won't be able to write a prope

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 10/06/2010 01:09 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 10/06/2010 09:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Having no comments on my plans with v0.32.x when telling some RT members in August, I thought it was fine. I won't be able to write a proper reply to your message right now. But, I

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 10/06/2010 09:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Having no comments on my plans with v0.32.x when telling some RT >> members in August, I thought it was fine. > > I won't be able to write a proper reply to your message right now. But, > I could not find the mail sent in Augus

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 10/06/2010 09:33 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Having no comments on my plans with v0.32.x when telling some RT > members in August, I thought it was fine. I won't be able to write a proper reply to your message right now. But, I could not find the mail sent in August you're speaking about. Ca

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 09/12/2010 05:17 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> Dear Release Team, >> >> [...] >> > > No, sorry. We are not able to accept such a big change. If you have a > targeted fix, we could review it. If you are able to provide a patch, > please send it to us here. > > Regards, I'm

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-10-03 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 09/12/2010 05:17 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Dear Release Team, [...] No, sorry. We are not able to accept such a big change. If you have a targeted fix, we could review it. If you are able to provide a patch, please send it to us here. Regards, -- Mehdi Dogguy مهدي الدڤي http://dogguy.org

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-09-13 Thread Thomas Goirand
Philipp Kern wrote: > Seems most of the PHP disaster is actually due to non-communication on > the public -release list? Hi, If you wish to discuss this topic, you are welcome to do so, but not in this thread please (and feel free to add me as Cc:, I'd be happy to read as well, as I read -release

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-09-12 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 03:46:02AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> If the RT > >> wasn't ready to accept the consequences of such a big move, then maybe > >> it wasn't a good idea to upload PHP 5.3.2? > > Please could you explain this comment? As above, PHP 5.3.2 has been in > > unstable since Ma

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-09-12 Thread Thomas Goirand
Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 23:17 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> - I have missed the deadline only for few days (12 days, right?). Before >> that, the RT had more relaxed rules since the debconf10 announcement, >> which was a surprise for some. > > We apparently have different

Re: Bug #566650: Please unblock dtc 0.32.2-1

2010-09-12 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 23:17 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > - I have missed the deadline only for few days (12 days, right?). Before > that, the RT had more relaxed rules since the debconf10 announcement, > which was a surprise for some. We apparently have different definitions of "few"; mailing 12