Re: nature of GOT bugs (was Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-09 Thread Nathanael Nerode
> > * or a bug in ld.so -- inability to handle correctly specified multiple GOTs > > for more than 16k global symbols Thiemo wrote: > > That (it shouldn't segfault), and/or potentially also a bug in ld which > leads to failure for large MultiGOT binaries. Rocking. It looks like most people inv

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-08 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > It's a lot of work to fix and no one has done it. That's not the same > thing at all. That's nice, but there's still a real problem unrelated to that. An example of a relatively healthy bug which is "a lot of work to fix and no one has done it" is http://gcc.gnu.org/b

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-08 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 03:18:23PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > What I keep hearing is that no one has reported the bug(s), and nobody except > Thiemo Seufer has even described it/them adequately. This is a bug or bugs > which is not documented in the documentation or bug databases for glibc

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-07 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Fri, Oct 07, 2005 at 05:16:28AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I begin to get the picture. > > Apparently the MIPS ABI is just plain broken. It contains some sort of > impassable hard limit on relocation table size, breaking random packages at > random times with no possible fix. Nobody c

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-07 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Andreas Barth wrote: > >Actually, there is one criterion missing: Does this bug really hurt us > >bad (enough)? And my current answer to this is no, but of course, you > >might want to persuade me. :) > ... > > >So, I think we can say that this bug is even forwarded to up

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-07 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Andreas Barth wrote: > Hi, > > * Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051007 04:42]: > > Matthias Klose wrote: > > > If > > > you think, that availability of compilers on some architectures > > > should be release criterium, please bring that up with the release > > > team first. > > That's not

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-07 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Matthias Klose wrote: > > If > > you think, that availability of compilers on some architectures > > should be release criterium, please bring that up with the release > > team first. > That's not at all what I think. > > I think that if there are known binutils bugs for

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-07 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Andreas Barth wrote: Actually, there is one criterion missing: Does this bug really hurt us bad (enough)? And my current answer to this is no, but of course, you might want to persuade me. :) ... So, I think we can say that this bug is even forwarded to upstream, as mips Inc is aware of it and

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-07 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Nathanael Nerode ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051007 04:42]: > Matthias Klose wrote: > > If > > you think, that availability of compilers on some architectures > > should be release criterium, please bring that up with the release > > team first. > That's not at all what I think. > > I think that

Re: Please reenable GCJ on mips

2005-10-06 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Matthias Klose wrote: > If > you think, that availability of compilers on some architectures > should be release criterium, please bring that up with the release > team first. That's not at all what I think. I think that if there are known binutils bugs for your architecture, which supposedly pr