Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-09 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Monday 09 April 2007, Steve Langasek wrote: you don't believe that software will continue to push forward our > minimum hardware requirements, the way it has for the past decade or so? > What do you think is the minimum memory required to run a "comfortable" > desktop system (or workstation) to

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:38:40AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > In general, what are the reasons that tend to cause delays? Does it have > something to do with the horde of devlopers pushing for new upstreams and > features into the release at the last minute? (now I feel a bit guilty about > thi

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:29:08AM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > Please do not answer on this list. > Please excuse me for not obbeying this request, but it seems that it was done > in the assumption that my reasoning is wrong. No, it was done because *debian-release is not a discussion list*.

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
[M-F-T set appropriately] On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 11:15:56PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 10:10:58PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > >> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> The thing is, that if lenny

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 04:38:44PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 10:43:55PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > Do you really intend to release in that date? I'm not very informed about > > the release process, but it seems to me there's a psychological factor here, > > in whi

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 11:15:56PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Does that mean you don't believe there will be such battle, or that you > > don't believe the predicted date? > > I don't believe that there will be such a battle. There is no re

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 10:43:55PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > Do you really intend to release in that date? I'm not very informed about > the release process, but it seems to me there's a psychological factor here, > in which the first announced release date is intentionaly unrealistic. There

Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers

2007-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 08:12:17PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2007 at 19:47:48 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > xorg 1:7.1.0-18 was unblocked for etch, but not built in time. Is it a > > > candidate for r1? > > The hppa-build is still not there, so we need to check whether i

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 10:10:58PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> The thing is, that if lenny will be released post-deadline, all the >>> improvements carried by it will be of no use for the 64-bit ba

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 10:10:58PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The thing is, that if lenny will be released post-deadline, all the > > improvements carried by it will be of no use for the 64-bit battle that > > will have finished by late 2008

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The thing is, that if lenny will be released post-deadline, all the > improvements carried by it will be of no use for the 64-bit battle that > will have finished by late 2008. I don't believe that there will be a 64-bit battle in late 2008, and I don't

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 09:11:38PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 02:54:12PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > >> * We want to restrict the release cycle for Lenny to less than 2 years, > >>we want to discuss experiences

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 02:54:12PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >> * We want to restrict the release cycle for Lenny to less than 2 years, >>we want to discuss experiences of Etch first though to get a more >>accurate time planning. > 2 years mea

Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers

2007-04-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Apr 8, 2007 at 19:47:48 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > xorg 1:7.1.0-18 was unblocked for etch, but not built in time. Is it a > > candidate for r1? > > The hppa-build is still not there, so we need to check whether it gets > compatible, or whether there was any ABI etc change. Frankly

Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers

2007-04-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* Julien Cristau ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070408 18:03]: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2007 at 14:54:12 +, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > Preparing the first point-release > > ~ > > There are already some packages known that will need an update in stable > > soon. Best known is th

64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 02:54:12PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * We want to restrict the release cycle for Lenny to less than 2 years, >we want to discuss experiences of Etch first though to get a more >accurate time planning. 2 years means april 2009, which is past the 64-bit trans

Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers

2007-04-08 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Apr 8, 2007 at 14:54:12 +, Andreas Barth wrote: > At this point, we would like to thank all people who have helped to > release Debian 4.0 (Etch). Only through the work of the community we > were able to get to this point. > Thanks and congratulations to the release team for this ach

Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers

2007-04-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
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