On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 04:58:25PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2013-10-14 10:06, Sven Luther wrote:
> > [...]
> >>> I don't know upto what point you are familiar with my history and its
> >>> link to the powerpc
> >>> port, but it pains m
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:11:56PM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> On 2013-10-06 16:25, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Hi Niels,
> >
>
> Hey,
>
> (Dropping -devel and -ports in exchange for -powerpc; sounded like you
> weren't subscribed to -powerpc, so direct CC for yo
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On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:45:35AM +0200, Niels Thykier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The final results are in:
>
> Summary table:
> Arch || DDs || NMs/DMs || Other || Total
> ---++-++-++---++--
> armel || 3 |
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 04:11:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:47:19PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 10:42:55AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 11:35:07AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
ed way, or maybe an abi-field or something
should be added.
Ralf, you are involved with the EDOS folk, which if i remember well,
this kind of stuff has been one of the topics they where involved with.
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Just an entry point, which may or may not be important here. Sun has
decided to make grub2 the default for opensolaris, including their
powerpc opensolaris port.
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, we intend to drop grub from archive since it's a bunch
> of patches difficult to maintain and hard to follow.
>
> Thoughts?
I wonder if we will also move from yaboot-installer to grub2-installer
on powerpc, and if you have given any thought to that migration path ?
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el
> in etch for r1 or r2 release.
Also, it would be good if for lenny we made fuller uses of the possibilities
offered by initramfs, especially the way you can concatenate various cpio
archives together to obtain a single ramdisk. This would be inmensely helpful
both for d-i and the non-free firmware issues.
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r source packages.
> I'm not sure if it would be possible to binNMU / force rebuild of
> those, but since linux-modules-* are maintained by the kernel team
> and loop-aes by myself, I think we could react quickly and rebuild
> them via normal sourceful uploads as well.
Why is loo
.
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On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 02:41:08AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:51:57AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > The -k7 issue, i don't know, can it be a flavour that was dropped or
> > something ?
>
> linux-latest-2.6 is not a candidate because
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:36:30AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 08:26:10PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore,
> > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter tes
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 10:37:01AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061201 20:30]:
> > - What is stopping 2.6.18 to enter testing ? The PTS says "Should ignore,
> > but forced by vorlon", so does this mean it will enter testing today
ay give a light to the problem ? Manoj, can you have a look at
this, and maybe help us fix the issue ?
I guess those are the most important question, but anyone should feel free to
comment if they know something, or have a comment.
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On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:28:59PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2006 at 08:16:25PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > Please consider hinting kernel-package to move into testing. The current
> > version in testing is still victim of 391643, which made the built k
andle such things, add a "found in 10.062" in the bug report
and re-open it ?
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o be fair and just, and keep our users in mind over this issue.
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1.7.1-3
parted makes it to testing ASAP.
The 10 day testing period is over today, and only a hint of the RMs with
regard the freeze is needed.
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On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 10:52:45PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be
> > uploaded for pushing the 2.6.18 kernel into etch.
>
> The ABI b
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 08:23:34AM +0100, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
> Moin,
> On Thu, Nov 16, 2006 at 11:36:48PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Hi, ...
> >
> > As you may know, or not, we are waiting for the abi-breaking 2.6.18-6 to be
> > uploaded for pushi
.
Is there any comment on this ? Anyone has any particular stuff they would like
included before -6 is released ? Or otherwise comments on this tentative
deadline ?
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On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 12:14:27AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 08:14:45PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 08:08:26PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > I'm sorry. Please feel free to disable the patch; I'm thinking it was
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 10:01:20AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 November 2006 18:07, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I remember (but am not anymore 100% sure, so a reply from frans/joeyh
> > would be nice), that frans told me last week or so, that an upload of
> > parted wa
t; Apologises for the hassle.
No problem, i am happy we found it before the release though.
Will you be able to work out a better/cleaner patch ? And work with us to
merge it upstream ?
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on parted -s print to find
information about the partition table to break, like the one checking for
RAID partitions in d-i. (Closes: #392767)
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#392767 being one of the two parted related RC bugs still open, but
tion which contradicted directly in at
least two places what is essentially the position of the release team and the
kernel team, while a better and cleaner resolution was being prepared.
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n't meet
our standard of freeness. It clearly states that firmwares without DFSG-free
licenses have to go (the interpretation here is that the text says that
sourceless versions of DFSG-free firmwares have to go).
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lieve that the developers would
> have voted to allow this in main for etch if we had known soon enough that
Yeah, right, another case of interpreting the voter's intent in direct
opposition of what the resolution actually said.
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rmware matters much to end users, I couldn't
> say.
tg3, e100 maybe too, those are some very widely widespread ethernet drivers,
used among others in servers, where netbooting is a must.
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firmware is contained in a flash on the
card, it does not constitute a derivative work of the kernel, and in the same
way a free compressor which can generate compressed archive with builtin
uncompressor binaries, is not a derivative work of the compressed files it
contains.
More arguments on
regretable that Manoj losed patience suddenly
after more than a month an a half of discussing the issues. But we will see.
I think we all now await impatiently the statement of the RMs on what will
happend with the tg3 and acenic firmwares, and if we need a new vote or not.
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 07:21:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 02:03:59 +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:05:57PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> >> Can you spell out for us which kernel modules,
ad all those numerous posts on -vote, even
though they didn't actively participate in the discussion.
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On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 09:21:21PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 06 October 2006 14:42, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061006 10:00]:
> > > I paste here the last instance of the draft proposal by the debian
> > > kernel team [1]. W
installer components (.udebs) used by the debian-installer.
== END OF PROPOSAL ==
On behalf of the other proposal crafters,
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[1] -
http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing#head-bf5edfa54af87d70d2f39f434703848b5
ile 2/3 are most probably code. That makes a bit less
than 30 problematic ones.
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On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 09:31:27PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> So, the RMs are making claims that those sourceless GPLed drivers
> >> don't cause any
ed to post this to debian-release. This is kinf of a
bit of public finger-pointing, without offering me any chance to reply, that
was not really needed.
I hope that you will in future consider not doing this kind of stuff, and
rather just privately inform the guy you are blocking, because like th
een lecturing the kernel team on what we should do or
not, dismissing the competence of the kernel team in a patronizing ways.
He also is, as usual, very willing to get other people to do work he could as
well do himself, but then, he would have nobody to bash on ...
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On Fri, Aug 18, 2006 at 07:46:56PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 10:07:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Maks -
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 06:05:30PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
>
uch time before the actual etch release is at hand, which is why
6. is probably a better solution right now, especially if you consider that
while we delay etch, debian/sarge will still carry those non-free bits, and so
even if we delay etch until around the same time we would have had etch+1 out
t
ad solution from the installer point of
> view.
Ah, i thought you proposed to help out with this, and not just complain about
it ? But then, maybe i am wrong about this.
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On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 10:51:11AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 02:12:07PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 09:42:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > This thread has also again shown that Sven is not really interested in
> >
an is not the same anymore as when
i joined so many years before".
So, until you learn some decency, and learn the meaning of the word
'discussion', please go away and don't address me anymore, ever.
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On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 04:01:12AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Compare it to including a hexdump of an image or sound in a header
> >
ready when the free driver comes into play.
Or you could use the new initramfs/firmware loading kernel infrastructure to
separate the firmware from the kernel.
Err, is not this latest one what you are suggesting we do ? So, if i
understood you well, your own argumentation is hitting you back there, and
this is usually proof that there is something terribly wrong in your
argumentation to start with.
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On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:46:18AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 06:14:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> >> W
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 06:14:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> Where people buy their hardware or how free their hardware is has
> >> little to do with Debian main. It is a problem for the linux upostream
> >
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 04:32:52PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 02:48:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> And even for an a
t. Notice that the situation has
clearly improved upstream with relation to the patches you sent a couple of
year back, and which apparently somehow broke the drivers, so now would be a
good time to restart that effort.
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On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 02:01:33AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Nope, the issue only surfaced early after the sarge release, a bit
> > less than a year ago, when the new kernel team formed.
>
> It was discussed *b
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 02:02:42AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:58:33AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >&g
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:58:33AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 4) pass a GR explaining the issue as is, and admitting our
> > incapacity to fix it with 2 or 3 due to lack of ressources.
>
> We do not
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:57:36AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 2) either move the individual affected drivers or just their firmware if
> > possible to non-free, and keep the cripled kernel in main.
>
> Thi
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 04:49:33PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Well, it reads to me that we won't screw our users without second
> > thought like some here are proposing.
>
> In my opinion, we have been sc
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 07:39:21AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 06:49:32AM +0200, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:46:09PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri)
ut any fee from us. In furtherance
of these goals, we will provide an integrated system of high-quality
materials with no legal restrictions that would prevent such uses of the
system.
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On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:26:45PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > untruth in what i said above, or in the other mail ?
>
> Yes. There is the option of simply not supporting installation on the
> devices in question.
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 06:24:12PM +0100, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 04:53:51PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > On Aug 07, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > No, because t
have a very different definition of code than me, or maybe
you have absolutely no clue about how hardware works, which is sincerely
doubt.
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On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 02:48:08PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 01:21:32PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> >>
> >> &
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 11:58:11AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:42:42 +0200 Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > > Sven, can you please finally STOP flaming against the
> > > debian-installer team, thank you.
> >
> > Well, its a simple stateme
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:23:31AM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 09:32:11AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > These are fine words, but how do you think they can translate into reality ?
> > We don't currently have the ressources to
On Sun, Aug 06, 2006 at 04:50:54PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > So, i don't believe there is much choice left to the kernel team in
> > this issue but to ask for a waiver of the DFSG compliance for the
> > ker
he kernel team in this issue
but to ask for a waiver of the DFSG compliance for the kernel for etch, and
hope the d-i folk take their responsabilities a bit more seriously for the
etch+1 release.
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y, it is moot, since those firmware don't need to be
GPL compatibly, since they are just non-free stuff shipped inside the kernel
media. But then there may be another license violation mentioned here.
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o solve the NEW spamming issue,
and let the ftp-master feel their pain, until they see the light and follow up
with us about a better solution to this mess :)
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On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:24:19AM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 01:41:30PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
> > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:50:57AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:14:33PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
>
lly needed. It is better to go forward, than to discuss
the best solution and not do anything in the end.
For your information, i also favour the generation of one binary module .deb
(and .udeb if needed) per module.
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> As the maintainer is not the kernel team, this may need some time.
> - Clutters the archive with many packages.
>
> Sven Luther proposed to integrate this packages into the kernel team but
> don't propose a fix for the other pr
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:51PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Thursday 08 June 2006 20:08, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 07:16:57PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > Only if we _would_ include some backports repository that is known to
> > > have a curren
On Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev,
> > which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a b
ago (last year ever) and the result was
to use kernel.debian.org as a repository for those. Check the debian-kernel
archive for details.
That said, currently, backports are not an easy solution because of udev,
which cannot be taken as is without pulling in the whole gnome, so a bit of
work is needed.
Fri
ily built images).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > FJP
>
> I ment that when you select sarge in choose-mirror in expert mode you
> get the inofficial list and if you choose etch/etch+1/sid you get the
> official one.
>
> Might be too much work for a transient problem tho
operation that has
mostly been rejected violently in the past though.
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t yourself, and described what
parts of debian you work on aor plan to work on.
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ing to add new packages?
Steve, if you have a problem with NEW, you should speak with the ftp-masters,
and get the NEW problem solved. At least this is what our DPL did say in the
below thread, where he said clearly that the Release Managers had the power to
accelerate NEW or something such, if i und
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 12:38:49AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 08:31:14AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:13:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 08:01:54AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > &
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 08:46:48AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 31 May 2006, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Maybe, but biarch are what we have now, and what can be made to work. I
> > asked
> > this same question 6+ month ago, and you gave me the same reply, and
&
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:13:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 08:01:54AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 06:16:28PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > Anyway, the script I'm using for this is smart enough that it won
of
the rebuild tree, without waiting for a list of any kind ? Or was it in the
kernel discussion that i proposed such an idea ?
Steve, do you think that this would be a good idea ?
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On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 02:48:43PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 01:26:16PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:05:26PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
>
> > > another month has passed and DebConf happened, so we have a few more
>
me questions 6+ month ago, and multiarch was all
the rage back then, and even in january the RMs seemed to be interested by
multiarch, but this is absent from the release goals, and is not even
mentioned.
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On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:18:07AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 08:49:35AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > I marked #369017 as important, should it be RCed ?
>
> Ask him to upload this today and than NMU it if needed.
Well, i filled the patch, with a name
ude new packages, only the
> > possibility is rather small. But we refuse to drop work just to
> > workaround somebody else problem (NEW handling).
>
> So if -15 is still broken I should plan to NMU rather than count on -16
> doing anything to address the needs of testing u
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:12:48AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 11:20:22AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 04:43:02PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 03:05:48AM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
>
> &g
patch found
in :
#369017: kernel-package: [powerpc, prep] Please apply patch to allow to
build 2.6.16 -prep kernels.
Which is needed in order for the -prep mkvmlinuz support to do the right
thing. I filled this bug on friday, so obviously Manoj hadn't had time to fix
it or something, or m
ink the
kernel team is responsible enough to do the right thing there, and probably is
the one holding the responsability for deciding that, so any NEW handling done
for this purpose is only time-wasting for whatever ftp-master has (or has not)
time to process the NEW queue.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
and manually excluding any
> non-binNMUable ones. So if you could answer the above questions, I should
> be able to get these binNMUs going pretty quickly.
Cool,
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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into testing just fine. The -prep image will need NEW handling, and
work on the d-i .udeb front, since it is a new flavour.
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On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:39:30AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060526 10:20]:
> > Well, it was my understanding that both those packages where living in a
> > differnt section, namely etch and etch-, which would take care of
> > the problem
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:10:57PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 07:08:41PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:47:08AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:38:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > &
pecial kernel for those, until
> > more
> > information is found about the above.
>
> I have a Motorola MTX PreP system with dual 604e's that I can test this
> on.
But you never managed to get SMP working on it, right ?
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:35:00AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 11:23]:
> > On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:31:08AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > You are ignoring that we have scheduled a time to update the kernel
> > > a
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:31:08AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 06:33]:
> > Well, as a proof of my claims, the sarge d-i released with a known remote
> > security hole, and there has been no (or maybe 1 by now ?) d-i update since
> >
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 12:04:59PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 11:52]:
> > On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:35:00AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > > * Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 11:23]:
> > > > On Wed, May 24, 200
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 10:27:14AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * dann frazier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060524 05:33]:
> > On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:46:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:09:45PM -0500, dann frazier wrote:
> > > > Kernel u
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 10:16:37PM -0500, dann frazier wrote:
> On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:46:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 01:09:45PM -0500, dann frazier wrote:
> > > Kernel udeb creation process (
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:47:08AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:38:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:52:47PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > > Perhaps we disable new kernel features for etch 1/2? e.g., limit new
&
ise the user awareness of the issue,
and we should even document it during the install (a dialog saying this driver
is non-free because of blah-blah-blah maybe), and this should in the
mid-to-long term help out convince the manufacturers to go the free route.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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