On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:56:52AM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> You still haven't commented on the overall idea of always building upon libs
> and
> other dependencies already in Testing, instead of building on, say, a glibc
> that
> is in unstable, preventing a few hundred of packages from
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > * In relation to this, Mozilla 1.3 (IMHO, the last rock-solid built
> > we've had on Debian) was good enough for Testing and should have been
> > allowed to trickle down, instead o
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 05:34:53PM +0200, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
>...
> One example of this is, while Gnome 2.2 has made it to testing, most
> GTK2/Gnome2 killer apps, like Evolution, are still stuck in Unstable.
> Why? Two reasons:
>
> 1) Ximian cranks out more releases than the Debian mai
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 10:41:05AM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote:
>...
> That could be done either by a rebuild, or, less costly, by a simple
> unpack/edit-changelog/repack.
Repacking breaks with every
Depends: somepackage (= ${Source-Version})
> In that case, if we had libfoo0_1.0-1 in pre-testing,
Must say I agree on alot here, that something has to change with the state
of unstable/testing?
Unstable is to be unstable: why have experimental?
All packages make their way into unstable, after maintainer have done some
work on it.
Some point I wanna make:
-Unstable should be frozen on a
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 02:03:08PM +, Wookey wrote:
> Doing my builds on a testing machine, then uploading to
> unstable can mean I introduce packages compiled against the wrong library
> versions. Source-only uploads would solve this and I could do test-compiles
> on some debian machine.
Off
Roland Mas wrote:
> I'm told (on IRC) that the mipsel build has been ongoing for a few
> days already. And mips has perl in its "Not-for-us" list, whatever
> that means (I'm a buildd newbie). So I'm currently building perl
> 5.8.2-2 by hand on casals.debian.org "by hand". Do tell me if it's
> no
I like this idea of pre-testing. It would allow to cut down the versionned
dependencies caused by automatic detection and allow a quicker move to
testing.
The issue I see however is that a package rebuilded that way would go into
testing without being tested by anyone. What if a given package fai
I'm glad to see that at least one person in the whole Debian project
defends the interests of the end-user, by reminding everyone that the
end-user is the most important person, as stated in the Debian project
goals. Thanks Adrian!
This being said, back to the the proposed improvements:
So
Roland Mas, 2003-11-19 14:30:26 +0100 :
> Steve Langasek, 2003-11-18 08:00:13 +0100 :
>
>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:29:28AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>> perl: Just waiting for its wait time to go.
>>
>> It's specifically waiting for uploads on mips and mipsel.
>
> I'm told (on
+++ Yann Dirson [03-11-18 22:54 +0100]:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:29:29PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> But that last point raises another issue: does anyone really use
> testing ? Would anyone use pre-testing after all ?
I used testing for a couple of years on my laptop and non-critical machin
Steve Langasek, 2003-11-18 08:00:13 +0100 :
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:29:28AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote:
[...]
>> perl: Just waiting for its wait time to go.
>
> It's specifically waiting for uploads on mips and mipsel.
I'm told (on IRC) that the mipsel build has been ongoing for a few
d
Adrian wrote:
> Your proposal wouldn't have been able to shorten the move of KDE 3 into
> testing by one single day.
Yes, my comment was misplaced wrt what you said, this problem still
has to be addressed. My proposal, however, is more targetted to
packages which would build with, say, KDE2, but
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:41:02PM -0700, Andre Lehovich wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Andreas Metzler wrote:
>> Your point being?
> That Nathanael's list is missing one important subsystem.
I see, I did not get it because of the nullquote.
> > From reading debian-x I got the firm impression tha
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