Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Andre Lehovich
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Your point being? That Nathanael's list is missing one important subsystem. > From reading debian-x I got the firm impression that we'll have 4.3.0 > in sarge (unless our time estimates are completely off and sarge wil > be released in June). Is it

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:54:00PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:29:29PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > There are some good suggestions in your proposal, e.g. you suggest to > > check whether the build dependencies are fulfilled. The lack of checking > > for build dependen

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > But that last point raises another issue: does anyone really use > testing ? Would anyone use pre-testing after all ? I think very many people use stable plus bits and pieces from testing. I have two machines set up that way. Getting the bits and pieces

Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 10:15:25AM -0700, Andre Lehovich wrote: > xfree86 4.1.3: still in experimental, adds support for a > bunch of important video chipsets, including most new > laptops. Upstream 4.1.4 is advertised to release 15 > December. Your point being? From reading debian-x I got the

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Yann Dirson
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 07:29:29PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > There are some good suggestions in your proposal, e.g. you suggest to > check whether the build dependencies are fulfilled. The lack of checking > for build dependencies in the current testing scripts often leads to > packages in tes

Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Björn Stenberg
Neil Schemenauer wrote: > Say 'A' depends on 'B' with a matching version number. In testing > we have: > > A_1 B_1 > > and in unstable: > > A_1 B_2 > > We can't move B into testing since it's waiting for A. Now someone > uploads a new version of B, > > A_1 B_3 > > and shortly af

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 05:47:44PM +0100, Yann Dirson wrote: > Joey wrote: > >Packages in unstable have dependencies in unstable which may not be > >met in testing, hence they cannot simply be included in testing. > >Unfortunately we need to take care of this. > > I've come up at least once with a

Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Andre Lehovich
xfree86 4.1.3: still in experimental, adds support for a bunch of important video chipsets, including most new laptops. Upstream 4.1.4 is advertised to release 15 December. --Andre, raining on the parade

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-18 Thread Yann Dirson
Joey wrote: >Packages in unstable have dependencies in unstable which may not be >met in testing, hence they cannot simply be included in testing. >Unfortunately we need to take care of this. I've come up at least once with a suggestion on how we could avoid this problem and increase the throughpu

Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Neil Schemenauer
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:40:35AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > do we have a period in the release cycle, where no new versions enter > unstable, so that packages depending on other packages can catch up? > something like a bug fixing upload period only? I had another idea. In my spare time I'v

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Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Matthias Klose
Steve Langasek writes: > Oh, well, I think there are at least a few people who would mind if we > released with a completely broken set of php4 packages. But this is > trivial to fix once perl is in. do we have a period in the release cycle, where no new versions enter unstable, so that packages

Re: Attempted "testing propagation status" report

2003-11-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 12:29:28AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > GNOME 2: All the libraries need to pass their 10-day wait times, and then > most of it should go in at once, probably leaving only a couple of packages > to fix. orbit2, libbonobo, it looks like. So this should be ready to go i