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2003-11-15 Thread Irvin Carney
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Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Philip Charles
On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Adrian Bunk wrote: > But this problem needs either be fixed in any way or Debian should > officially announce that it's now a hackers-only distribution, since > it's due to the lack of stable releases not usable for serious systems. > > _Why_ do these threads pop up without an

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > below are some subjective opservations and opinions regarding the > progress towards Debian 3.1 . This is off-topic for -release. Please restrict any replies to -devel or private mail. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Please read it, and make your own opinions on where I'm right and where > > I'm wrong, even if you might not agree with my opinions on other issues > > or if you don't agr

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 07:01:07PM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 17:42, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > If a maintainer is MIA, his packages should be orphaned and he should > > be kicked out of Debian as soon as possible. > > It would be better _not_ to make it a policy to kick a maint

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Nov 16, 2003 at 12:34:27AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:42:26PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > For testing to work good, it's required to have unstable in a good > > > state. Often new so-version

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:42:26PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > During the last months, the number of RC bugs of packages in unstable > > was constant at 700 bugs including 500 RC bugs in packages that are in > > testing [2]. >

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:42:26PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > For testing to work good, it's required to have unstable in a good > > state. Often new so-versions of libraries enter unstable, and e.g. KDE > > 3.2 might soon go into

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > During the last months, the number of RC bugs of packages in unstable > was constant at 700 bugs including 500 RC bugs in packages that are in > testing [2]. > Yes, there's the common argument "Don't talk, fix bugs.". Unfortunately >

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:42:20PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Please read it, and make your own opinions on where I'm right and where > I'm wrong, even if you might not agree with my opinions on other issues > or if you don't agree with everything below. Nice of you to vent steam onto the mailing

Re: Is upload to stable appropriate?

2003-11-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > > However, since the patch is non-trivial, I'd rather have 4.2.4-13 > > uploaded for sid-addon for a while before it should replace the file > > that comes with woody non-free, hence, not for the r2 update. > > I don't understand what sid-addon is. The only reference I

Re: Is upload to stable appropriate?

2003-11-15 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
> > I believe that a fix for this problem would meet the requirements for > > upload to stable ("The package fixes a critical bug which can lead into > > data loss, data corruption..."). However, before I go ahead and upload, > > I wanted to check whether you folks agreed. > > Go ahead. Ok. > T

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > below are some subjective opservations and opinions regarding the > progress towards Debian 3.1 . > > Please read it, and make your own opinions on where I'm right and where > I'm wrong, even if you might not agree with my opinions on other issue

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Adrian! Adrian Bunk schrieb am Saturday, den 15. November 2003: > solved, the next one pups up. For testing to work good, it's required to > have unstable in a good state. Often new so-versions of libraries enter > unstable, and e.g. KDE 3.2 might soon go into unstable. If testing > should be

Re: Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Thomas Hood
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 17:42, Adrian Bunk wrote: > If a maintainer is MIA, his packages should be orphaned and he should > be kicked out of Debian as soon as possible. It would be better _not_ to make it a policy to kick a maintainer out of Debian just because he or she is MIA. Faced with this pro

Some observations regardig the progress towards Debian 3.1

2003-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
Hi, below are some subjective opservations and opinions regarding the progress towards Debian 3.1 . Please read it, and make your own opinions on where I'm right and where I'm wrong, even if you might not agree with my opinions on other issues or if you don't agree with everything below. This is

Re: jack 0.75 mini-freeze

2003-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 01:58:22PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Blahblahblah. The bug doesn't make it unusable for everyone, therefore it's > not grave. Stop arguing about severities and fix the bug instead. If you're > not able to do that, do something else that's productive instead. There ar

Re: Is upload to stable appropriate?

2003-11-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > I've received a bug report for non-free ncompress: > >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=220820 > > The bug deals with a data-corruption problem with the -b9 option. If a > user compresses a file using -b9, the resulting file is corrupt, and > this is

Re: jack 0.75 mini-freeze

2003-11-15 Thread Junichi Uekawa
> > On the contrary, it would help everyone interested in having an > > up-to-date jack-audio-connection-kit in sarge. If it becomes clear > > later that full 2.6 support should be considered RC, the severity can > > be raised again, assuming the bug still hasn't been fixed; but at this > > point,