Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Michail Bachmann
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 15:10, Adeodato Simó wrote: > kppp has an _absolute_ dependency on ppp (Christopher says so, and he > knows better than I), so there you go with the Depends. OTOH, see > Bug#289189 for an example where using Depends: would help some people, > but it is not don

Re: Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Christoffer Sawicki
> I understand your concern, but the real problem is that metapackages are a > crude solution to a general problem. If you don't need one of the > packages installed by a metapackage, you could simply uninstall the > metapackage. Perhaps, though, a nicer solution would be for the > metapackages to

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Christopher Martin
On February 2, 2005 08:36, Michail Bachmann wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2005 14:11, Christopher Martin wrote: > > Believe me, we get a ton of reports from new users whose packages > > don't work because they didn't install the Recommends. But that's not > > why I made kppp depend on ppp - I d

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Michail Bachmann [Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:15:51 +0100]: > > BTW, kppp without ppp is a nice window in your desktop useless. > So what? Do I have to use it? You have a point, but: what determines if we put something as Depends or as Recommends is not what will confuse our users less. What det

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Michail Bachmann
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 13:46, Matías Costa wrote: > > Maybe it would be better if kdenetwork would only recommend kppp and not > > depend on it, but I can see a rationale in that decision, kdenetwork > > being a metapackage and used by different kind of users. > > That's it, you can make ha

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Christopher Martin
On February 2, 2005 04:04, Michail Bachmann wrote: > > If you're on a LAN, why are you using kppp? It would be helpful if > > you could explain your situation in more detail. > > Because unfortunately there is a dependency relation which leads to > kppp: kde->kdenetwork->kppp. OK. > Maybe it woul

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Matías Costa
El Miércoles 02 Febrero 2005 10:04, Michail Bachmann escribió: > On Wednesday 02 February 2005 03:09, Christopher Martin wrote: > > On February 1, 2005 18:23, Michail Bachmann wrote: > > > The dependency on ppp changed from Recommends in 3.3.1-2 to Depends in > > > 3.3.2-1. > > > > > > Since KDE is

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Christopher Martin [Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:09:42 -0500]: > If you're on a LAN, why are you using kppp? It would be helpful if you > could explain your situation in more detail. $ apt-get install kde ;-) -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: Manolo

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-02 Thread Michail Bachmann
On Wednesday 02 February 2005 03:09, Christopher Martin wrote: > On February 1, 2005 18:23, Michail Bachmann wrote: > > The dependency on ppp changed from Recommends in 3.3.1-2 to Depends in > > 3.3.2-1. > > > > Since KDE ist perfectly useable on a LAN without ppp I dont understand > > the reason f

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-01 Thread Christopher Martin
On February 1, 2005 18:23, Michail Bachmann wrote: > The dependency on ppp changed from Recommends in 3.3.1-2 to Depends in > 3.3.2-1. > > Since KDE ist perfectly useable on a LAN without ppp I dont understand > the reason for changing this dependency. If you're on a LAN, why are you using kppp? I

Bug#293246: kppp: dependency on ppp

2005-02-01 Thread Michail Bachmann
Package: kppp Version: 3.3.2-1 Severity: normal The dependency on ppp changed from Recommends in 3.3.1-2 to Depends in 3.3.2-1. Since KDE ist perfectly useable on a LAN without ppp I dont understand the reason for changing this dependency. CU Micha -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1