Bug#1068513: dablin: FTBFS on arm{el,hf}: manually disables mpg123's large file API

2024-04-07 Thread Stefan Pöschel
Hello Sebastian, it turns out that (Cygwin) compilation no longer needs the large file API to be disabled. Hence I re-enabled it and released version 1.16.0. Best regards, Stefan Am 06.04.24 um 22:22 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher: Source: dablin Version: 1.15.0-1 Severity: serious Tags

Bug#991552: libappindicator3-1 and libindicator3-7 are missing in bullseye

2021-07-27 Thread Stefan Frings
Package: libappindicator3-1 Version: 0.4.92-7 Severity: normal Tags: d-i Dear Maintainer, the packages libappindicator3-1 and libindicator3-7 are needed by Skype and RocketChat to display "tray" icons in the application bar. These icons are important for my daily work because they indicate whethe

Bug#917347: Obsolete build dependency on libssl1.0-dev

2018-12-26 Thread Stefan Bühler
able for oldstable and stable too. cheers, Stefan

Bug#912358: lighttpd FTCBFS: unsatisfiable Build-Depends

2018-10-30 Thread Stefan Bühler
Hi, On 10/30/2018 09:33 PM, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 08:57:04PM +0100, Stefan Bühler wrote: >>> lighttpd fails to cross build from source. The first problem is >>> satisfying Build-Depends. Two dependencies are problematic: perl and >>> libcgi

Bug#912358: lighttpd FTCBFS: unsatisfiable Build-Depends

2018-10-30 Thread Stefan Bühler
ghttpd/lighttpd1.4.git/commit/configure.ac?id=fefc82153a0260635807ae427943d6fed3238809 cheers, Stefan

Bug#904741: lighttpd: create-mime.assign.pl skips mime types with capital letters

2018-07-29 Thread Stefan Bühler
Hi, this was fixed upstream (in 1.4.36) a long time ago, see: https://github.com/lighttpd/lighttpd1.4/commit/8db141a1b30e5808679e1f341c6ca914be91bed8 We imported the script from debian and extended it heavily. The debian package is still using the original debian one. cheers, Stefan On 07

Bug#868498: git-related

2017-07-15 Thread Stefan Petrea
I should also mention that I made the patch on top of commit 35c94313f5e0e7bb9 of the debian git repository for xpdf https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xpdf.git/

Bug#868498: additional details

2017-07-15 Thread Stefan Petrea
In order to test that the patch works as intended, run /usr/bin/xpdf.real -remote SERV q1.pdf This will open up a pdf viewer with a document. Now make a serach using the remote interface using the "SERV" server name. /usr/bin/xpdf.real -remote SERV -exec 'search(needle)' This will cause the

Bug#868498: xpdf: adding search command usable through xpdf's remote feature

2017-07-15 Thread Stefan Petrea
Package: xpdf Version: 3.04-1ubuntu1 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Hi, I've added a new feature that can be used to execute a search in a document through the remote interface that xpdf provides. This was useful to me and is a feature I've always wanted to see in xpdf. Best regar

Bug#803194: Style #compact_tab GtkLabel#active is only used when tab is new, not when switching to tab

2015-10-27 Thread Stefan Schörghofer
ou are not able to see which tab is currently active. I've extracted Version 2:1.6.3-1 of xombrero and replaced /usr/share/xombrero/xombrero.css with the older one, then everything works as expected. Best regards, Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlYv4noACgkQZI

Bug#725816:

2014-03-18 Thread Stefan Bauer
Hi Milos, there will be a new version in unstable soon, that should fix your reported issue. Can you please test and report back? Thank you. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-packages-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Conta

Bug#698217: mssh: shift+insert only pastes to first window

2013-01-15 Thread Stefan Voelkel
Package: mssh Version: 1.2-1 Severity: normal Using shit+insert will only insert text into the first window. Pasting using middle mousebutton works though. -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.6 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.

pdnsd insserv config

2012-10-21 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Hi, I have just re-assigned #663971 to you. You should either coordinate with the insserv maintainers to get pdnsd added to /etc/insserv.conf or change your /etc/insserv.conf.d/pdnsd to contain a + (for optional). Cheers, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-packages-requ

Bug#669763: Apache2 2.4 transition postponed until after Wheezy

2012-05-17 Thread Stefan Fritsch
after the release of Wheezy. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Cheers, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-packages-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debia

Bug#666838: Apache2 2.4 transition postponed until after Wheezy

2012-05-17 Thread Stefan Fritsch
after the release of Wheezy. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Cheers, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-packages-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debia

Bug#606835: FTBFS with --as-needed linker flag

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Potyra
forwarded 606835 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3135553&group_id=1814&atid=301814 thanks Hi, kmail seems to wrap lines in a way that was not intended by me. Retrying with mutt, in the hope that this will work. Sorry for the inconvenience, Stefan. -- To

Bug#606835: FTBFS with --as-needed linker flag

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Potyra
forwarded 606835 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3135553&group_id=1814&atid=301814 thanks Hi, next try. kmail seems to line-wrap in a different way than I intended. Hope it works this time. Cheers, Stefan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-p

Bug#606835: FTBFS with --as-needed linker flag

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Potyra
forwarded 606835 https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3135553&group_id=1814&atid=301814 thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-packages-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201

Bug#606835: FTBFS with --as-needed linker flag

2010-12-11 Thread Stefan Potyra
atid=301814>. Please see there for a better description. Cheers, Stefan. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers natty-updates APT policy: (500, 'natty-updates'), (500, 'natty-security'), (500, 'natty') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kern

Bug#300657: libmotif3: image cache lookup fails

2010-07-22 Thread Stefan Bauer
tags 300657 moreinfo thanks Nick, pretty old bug and bunch of fixes by upstream in the previous years. Could you please give the latest version in unstable a try and report back if possible? thanks Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887

Bug#410528: libmotif-dev: dependency problem in Xm.h (extensions/Print.h not installed)

2010-06-24 Thread Stefan Bauer
Hi Stefan, quite old bug, i hope you still have a chance to read this && reply. Thanks for your bugreport. The required header-file is Print.h which is in x11proto-print-dev-Package. Might this be enough? I just want to avoid to include unwanted dependencies like the package libxp-dev wh

Bug#494375: co maintenance - maintenance of libmotif3

2010-03-31 Thread Stefan Bauer
Hi folks, i'm using heavily libmotif3 in a newer version from upstream. I would love to see the latest version in debian. Do you mind if i prepare some package and send them to mentors.debian.org or my favorite sponsor to upload them? Stefan -- Stefan

Bug#232029: snooper: segfault when resizing the terminal window

2010-02-16 Thread Stefan Bauer
Christian, this report is more than 6 years old but could you please try if the problem still persists with the latest snooper package from unstable? There have been many changes in the past. I was trying to reproduce your problem but it works in my office. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer

Bug#365137: snooper: line editing enhancement: DEL

2010-02-16 Thread Stefan Bauer
bugreport open but it's a matter of time when i will find a solution to easily integrate it. I'm not sure whether this is a direct problem in snooper ore a terminal emulation issue. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81

Bug#285700: snooper, baudrate issue

2010-02-15 Thread Stefan Bauer
as it works on different machines in my lab without any trouble. Stefan -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81 5858 DCEF 8C34 plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-packages-requ...@l

Bug#182656: snooper: i only have one computer and one modem

2010-02-15 Thread Stefan Bauer
comments in your minicom window This howto will also get included in the next realses Debian.README file. thanks -- Stefan Bauer - PGP: E80A 50D5 2D46 341C A887 F05D 5C81 5858 DCEF 8C34 plzk.de - Linux - because it works -- -- To

Bug#531588: apcupsd: apctest segmentation fault on self-test

2009-10-19 Thread Stefan Ritter
Hi, upstream said that this is a kernel issue, not a problem of apcupsd. Are you OK with this and can I close this bug? Regards, Stefan -- ,---[ xeno ] | Stefan Ritter | JID | Web <http://www.thehappy.de/~xeno/> `--- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-qa-package

Bug#550401: return value of write ignored in nstx_tuntap.c

2009-10-10 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi, sorry patch was not correct (wrong buffer count on EINTR). Attached is a correct one. Cheers, Stefan. fix_short_write.dpatch Description: application/shellscript signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Bug#550401: return value of write ignored in nstx_tuntap.c

2009-10-09 Thread Stefan Potyra
fix this, would be excellent if you could include it. Cheers, Stefan. -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT prefers karmic-updates APT policy: (500, 'karmic-updates'), (500, 'karmic-security'), (500, 'karmic') Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) K

Bug#549513: fails to build with newer eglibc/gcc-4.4

2009-10-03 Thread Stefan Potyra
to fix the build failure. Would be cool if you can add it. Thanks, Stefan. [1]: <https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20090909/+build/1233723/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.wvdial_1.60.1+nmu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz> -- System Information: Debian Release: squeeze/s

Bug#549401: fails to build with gcc-4.4/newer eglibc

2009-10-02 Thread Stefan Potyra
these are also affected. At least I didn't find a hint in the ChangeLog (however being conservative and setting the version to a known failing version). Attached is a patch to fix the build failure. Cheers, Stefan. [1]: <http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31764423/buildlog_ubuntu-karmi

Bug#548616: fails to build with gcc-4.4

2009-09-27 Thread Stefan Potyra
ill a little bit ugly, as actually a const argument gets modified (which was also the case before), and the fix in the patch is to use the const_cast hammer :/. Cheers, Stefan. [1]: <http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31885185/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.licq_1.3.6-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz>

Bug#406102: apcupsd stable : Wishlist

2009-09-16 Thread Stefan Ritter
Hi, are you still interested in doing this? Otherwise i'll close this bug these days. Regards, Stefan -- ,---[ xeno ]----- | Stefan Ritter | JID | Web <http://www.thehappy.de/~xeno/> ` ,---[ please ]--- | () ascii ribbon campaign - against

Re: Wie gehts?

2009-02-05 Thread Stefan
erhalten und bin mehr als nur zufrieden. Total geile Sache. Meine Freundin war gestern auch total begeistert. So oft ist sie schon lange nicht mehr gekommen *grins* Haben bestimmt 4 Stunden durchgefickt, echt hammergeil. Kann ich nur empfehlen! Beste Wünsche Dein Stefan

Parkplatzsex - Hier ist was los !

2009-02-03 Thread Stefan & Andrea
46401 - puyeusbx - 868 - zomjt --- Nie mehr zu früh schlapp machen! http://de.search.yahoo.com/search?p=online-potenzmittel.info

Bug#493717: debian/watch file for mp3wrap

2008-08-04 Thread Stefan Lesicnik
Package: mp3wrap Severity: wishlist Version: mp3wrap-0.5-2 User: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usertags: origin-ubuntu ubuntu-patch intrepid mp3wrap_0.5-2ubuntu1.debdiff Description: Binary data

Bug#461699: FTBFS with g++-4.3: Missing includes

2008-04-05 Thread Stefan Ritter
-maintainer upload. + * FTBFS with GCC 4.3: uses (removed) pre-iso c++ headers (Closes: #461699) + + -- Stefan Ritter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:02:42 +0200 + kxgenerator (0.3.7+dfsg-2) unstable; urgency=low * QA upload. only in patch2: unchanged: --- kxgenerator-0.3.7+dfs

Bug#466418: ksocrat: Add dh_icons to debian/rules

2008-02-18 Thread Stefan Ebner
Package: ksocrat Version: 3.2.1-2 Severity: normal Tags: patch User: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Usertags: origin-ubuntu hardy ubuntu-patch Please add dh_icons in debian/rules :) ***/tmp/tmpCEUuRc In Ubuntu, we've applied the attached patch to achieve the following: * Merge from Debian(Unstable). (LP:#1

Bug#55468: Arm Treadmill

2007-12-26 Thread Stefan Brock
Become the ultimate pleasure machine http://www.Convsiumiet.com challenging. Something own with your co-worker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#456490: qc-usb-source: please add kernel 2.6.24 compatibility

2007-12-15 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
34). * add kernel 2.6.24 compatibility (Closes: $THIS_BUG). * don't ignore make clean error. * bump standards version to 3.7.3 (no changes necessary). Regards Stefan Lippers-Hollmann -- System Information: Debian Release: lenny/sid APT prefers unstable APT policy: (50

Bug#445434: qc-usb-source: please add make-kpkg compatibility

2007-10-05 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
/tmp/pkg/modules/qc-usb-source. Hit return to Continue? The attached patch links the "kdist" target to "kdist-image" (which is used by module-assistant), build tested and confirmed to be working. Regards Stefan Lippers-Hollmann -- System Information: Debian Release:

Bug#437708: CVE-2007-3568: DoS vulnerability with crafted bmp

2007-08-13 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Package: imlib11 Version: 1.9.15-2 Severity: important Tags: security >From CVE-2007-3568: "The _LoadBMP function in imlib 1.9.15 and earlier allows context-dependent attackers to cause a denial of service (infinite loop) via a BMP image with a Bits Per Page (BPP) value of 0." See http://www.sec

Bug#423467: gv: saved setup options ignored

2007-05-11 Thread Stefan Fritsch
This should be fixed in 1:3.6.2-4, though it will probably take some time for this version to enter testing because of the glibc transition. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#299447: closed by Stefan Fritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Bug#299447: fixed in gv 1:3.6.2-4)

2007-05-07 Thread Stefan Fritsch
cause I didn't know what problem it fixes. Your patch would have called readline() recursively via the SKIP_UNTIL_1() macro and then parsed also the contents of the EPS (but I think it would have handled triply nested ps files correctly). But thanks for checking my fix. Cheers, Stefan -

Bug#418322: remove php4-tclink?

2007-05-05 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Maybe this should be removed? According to popcon, it has practically no users [1]. Mandriva seems to have a version for php5 [2], so it should be possible to convert the package to php5. But I doubt it is worth the effort. [1] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=php4-tclink [2] http://c

Re: Regular expression too big

2007-03-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Thanks, Stefan. That makes sense. But it would need to run within the > fontification function, so we'd like it to be speedy... Try it. It's not at all obvious to me that performance will be a problem. I'm often surprised at how much work one can do within font-lock

Re: Regular expression too big

2007-03-26 Thread Stefan Monnier
bar")) you may be able to use (while (and (re-search-forward (concat "foo\(.*\)bar")) (not (member (match-string 1) mighty-big-list And of course, use a hash-table rather than a list. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Toolbar and info mode (and others)

2007-03-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
s, you wouldn't have much space left for the text itself. > A more extensive toolbar could help newbies learn/explore Emacs faster. Could be. Right now, the menus play this role. > In my view, a well-designed toolbar and menubar can help people to climb > that curve faster.

Re: Regular expression too big

2007-03-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
mit without removing it. Tell us more about your regexps: maybe we can optimize them. Stefan

Re: File type misclassification

2007-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
S" _does_ have some usefulness, and it is clearly > not as overboard as "%!". We agree that it's a step in the right direction. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: File type misclassification

2007-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> To take this out of magic-mode-alist, and leave recognition of > Postscript to file names alone, might be a good change, but I am not > sure of usage practices. Who put this entry in magic-mode-alist, and why? Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a s

Re: File type misclassification

2007-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
agic string for the "TeXshop" TeX editor. But I > think just ruling out [VT] is still asking for trouble. I think a bug report to the TeXshop is in order. >> 3) Remove it from magic-mode-alist. > Also an option in my book. Agreed, a very good option I'd say. Especia

Re: File type misclassification

2007-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
! entry removed from magic-mode-alist, because I think magic-mode-alist should really be kept to its absolute strictest minimum. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#410528: libmotif-dev: dependency problem in Xm.h (extensions/Print.h not installed)

2007-02-11 Thread Stefan Schwarzer
Package: libmotif-dev Version: 2.2.3-2 Severity: normal When compiling a Motif application that includes Xm.h, I get the error Xm/Xm.h:76:34: error: X11/extensions/Print.h: No such file or directory The missing file is in libxp-dev which is not in the dependency list of libmotif-dev -- System I

Bug#399869: skribe: Drop transitional build-dep on textutils

2006-11-22 Thread Stefan Huehner
Package: skribe Version: 1.2g-1 Severity: wishlist Hi, your package build-depends on textutils which is transitional and has been superceeded by coreutils (Which is essential). Please consider removing this build-dep. Regards, Stefan -- System Information: Debian Release: 4.0 APT prefers

Bug#396256: CVE-2006-4513: wvWare Multiple Integer Overflow Vulnerabilities

2006-10-30 Thread Stefan Fritsch
package: wv severity: grave tags: security Some vulnerabilities have been found in wvware and are fixed in 1.2.3 See http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/display.php?id=434 http://labs.idefense.com/intelligence/vulnerabilities/display.php?id=433 for details. Please mention the

Bug#385893: CVE-2006-4262: Cscope Buffer Overflow Vulnerabilities

2006-09-03 Thread Stefan Fritsch
Package: cscope Severity: grave Tags: security patch Justification: user security hole Some vulnerabilities have been found in cscope: Multiple buffer overflows in cscope 15.5 and earlier allow user-assisted attackers to cause a denial of service (crash) and possibly execute arbitrary code via m

Bug#383030: multiple buffer overflows in libmusicbrainz

2006-08-14 Thread Stefan Fritsch
package: libmusicbrainz-2.1 severity: grave tags: security Some buffer overflows have been found in libmusicbrainz up to 2.1.2. See http://aluigi.altervista.org/adv/brainzbof-adv.txt http://secunia.com/advisories/21404/ for details. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subje

Bug#334698: htdig: AMD64 arch corrupts databases

2006-08-03 Thread Stefan Potyra
Hi, the very same bug is reported in ubuntu, see [1]. The reporter says, that the issue is fixed with upstream's 3.2.0b6, so I closed the bug in ubuntu. HTH, Stefan. -- [1]: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/htdig/+bug/35126 pgpzrZCXpa7HE.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#368546: sawfish-related system slowdown

2006-06-21 Thread Tobias Stefan Richter
Andreas, now that this bug is no longer RC and sawfish no longer has the old maintainer, could you unblock sawfish again? According to popcon I am not the only one to still use it, so it would be a pity to miss it in etch. Tobias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Bug#293974: (icepref and icewm-preferences)

2005-07-04 Thread Stefan Rink
Hello Jonas, could you pl. get back on that bug? probably it isn't valid and should be closed... n'cu Stefan Rink -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Bug#293974: Claim about icewm cannot be reproduced

2005-04-11 Thread Stefan Rink
r claim, i will close the bug otherwise. A Bug report against icewm should be the more correct way. Even if your claim substantiates, this is no justification for 'grave' severity. Even if icewm wouldn't respect ~/.icewm/preferences, this doesn't render the package unu

Re: Problems.

2003-11-09 Thread Stefan Schultheis (home)
> To: > Subject: Problems. > From: "Stefan Andersson" > Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:57:07 +0200 > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Old-return-path: > > > Hi. &

Problems.

2003-08-24 Thread Stefan Andersson
Hi. Sorry to bother you. But I'm having some serious malfunctions with the latest unstable cacti / rrdtool / php4 ... Are there some problems in the latest unstable release php4 vs cacti ?? For example i'm getting this .. And alot more of these errors too ..   Warning: rrdtool_function_updat

NMU for blt (Bug #185855)

2003-04-02 Thread Stefan Schimanski
himmi P.S. the changelog: blt (2.4z-0.3) unstable; urgency=low * Install bltPool.h, bltList.h and bltBind.h (closes: #185855). -- Stefan Schimanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wed, 2 Apr 2003 16:23:54 +0200 - -- Stefan Schimanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bug#185855: blt-dev: Patch to fix the problem (See #161051)

2003-04-02 Thread Stefan Schimanski
Package: blt-dev Version: 2.4z-0.2 Tags: patch Followup-For: Bug #185855 diff -u -r blt-2.4z.old/debian/rules blt-2.4z/debian/rules --- blt-2.4z.old/debian/rules 2003-04-02 16:56:50.0 +0200 +++ blt-2.4z/debian/rules 2003-04-02 16:23:44.0 +0200 @@ -223,6 +223,9 @@ in

Bug#149314: Additional Information

2002-09-29 Thread Stefan Denker
If not executed directly but from a program (on my machine licq) wavp starts filling my Harddisk. ca 100MB a minute. I am not able to locate these data, and with a reboot this extra data is erased, it seems. hth Stefan -- The world belongs, however, to those who can look at the glass and say