Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, [I originally planned to discuss this during the QA meeting. But it might be a better idea to first start the discussion on the mailing list, so we get a rough idea of the things that have to be discussed in the meeting.] There's a number of packages in Debian that are poorly maintained, or t

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Luk Claes
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Hi, Hi Lucas Current status -- Michael Ablassmeier and me filed some bugs some time ago on packages that were good candidates for orphaning or removal from Debian. The list can be viewed at [1]. However, we haven't orphaned/removed the packages so far. Only

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 10/10/07 at 11:35 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: >> Why do we need a workflow for that? >> --- >> There's an authority problem in Debian. Even if nobody disagrees that a >> package should be removed, if the maintainer is unresponsive, usually, >> nobody takes the decisio

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:35:36AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> - Maintainer's MIA status > This is also outside the scope of the proposal IMHO as MIA maintainers and > their packages are already covered by the MIA team. On the other hand if a package has a maintainer who

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Luk Claes
Mark Brown wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:35:36AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Lucas Nussbaum wrote: - Maintainer's MIA status This is also outside the scope of the proposal IMHO as MIA maintainers and their packages are already covered by the MIA team. On the other hand if a package has a

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 04:13:53PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > That's of course the other way around. The original list only talked about feeding the MIA status in, not how. >A badly maintained package can > indicate a MIA maintainer and should probably be

Re: Handling of poorly maintained and useless packages

2007-10-10 Thread Luk Claes
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 03:53:48PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 04:13:53PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > > > That's of course the other way around. > > The original list only talked about feeding the MIA status in, not how. Let me rephrase: there is already a process that deals