Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 11:36:50AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 06:42:32PM +0200, Adeodato Sim? wrote: > > then do not many orphaned packages (if not most) fit into one of the > > proposed resons and should be removed from testing? > > > > I think many packages coul

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 06:42:32PM +0200, Adeodato Sim? wrote: > * Matthew Palmer [Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:12:22 +1000]: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:28:04PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > > > I wish more people had an attitude like this. Maybe it would make > > > sense to ask people on d-d-a t

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-24 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 06:42:32PM +0200, Adeodato Sim? wrote: [snip] > > then do not many orphaned packages (if not most) fit into one of the > proposed resons and should be removed from testing? > > I think many packages could benefite from this in-the-middle approach: > instead of co

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-24 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Matthew Palmer [Mon, 21 Jun 2004 10:12:22 +1000]: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:28:04PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > > I wish more people had an attitude like this. Maybe it would make > > sense to ask people on d-d-a to review their own new packages and > > consider whether it makes sense t

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:28:04PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-20 11:44]: > > I'll volunteer to check my own packages, with a couple of recommendations: > > I wish more people had an attitude like this. Maybe it would make > sense to ask people o

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Andreas Barth
* Martin Michlmayr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040620 14:25]: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-20 12:06]: > > If as maintainer you want your package not to be released but to remain > > in unstable, then file a serious bug on the package to that effect and > > tell the release team. > Is the

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-20 21:20]: > I played around a bit, my current stuff (nothing serious yet) > is at http://people.debian.org/~djpig/pkg-invest/ > status.html at least shows the amount of work we're talking about: > today it were 3350 new source packages when comparin

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 02:20:38PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > In any case, I'd really like volunteers for something else: check > which packages are going to ship new with sarge (i.e. which have not > been in woody or another stable release) and take a closer look at > them to see if we reall

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-20 11:44]: > I'll volunteer to check my own packages, with a couple of recommendations: I wish more people had an attitude like this. Maybe it would make sense to ask people on d-d-a to review their own new packages and consider whether it makes sense

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 01:19:28PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-20 12:06]: > > If as maintainer you want your package not to be released but to remain > > in unstable, then file a serious bug on the package to that effect and > > tell the release team

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-20 12:06]: > If as maintainer you want your package not to be released but to remain > in unstable, then file a serious bug on the package to that effect and > tell the release team. Is there no cleaner solution so those RC bugs don't show up in the RC b

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:44:53AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > Do I bug FTPmasters about getting those two removed from testing, or the > release team? If as maintainer you want your package not to be released but to remain in unstable, then file a serious bug on the package to that effect and

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 02:20:38PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > In any case, I'd really like volunteers for something else: check > which packages are going to ship new with sarge (i.e. which have not > been in woody or another stable release) and take a closer look at > them to see if we reall

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-18 18:38]: > I'm prepared to do the work for it, but would like to pre-warn the > other developers in time. Therefor, I would e.g. like to send a mail > like this to d-d-a: I think it's a good idea in principle to check which stuff should be removed. >

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:27:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Frank Lichtenheld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040618 19:40]: > > Hmm, I don't quite understand why this would be a good idea. The > > packages are not in testing so I would rather not waste more time > > on them _before_ the release but co

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:57:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: 1. I really hope that we are able to release more often in future. Releasing only every four years is a dead end. People have been saying that since I joined the project, if not earlier. :) 2. Please see "exception" below: Of cour

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Andreas Barth
* Michael Stone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040618 23:10]: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:27:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > >Well, I'm not speaking of investing any time now on them, but just to > >alert their maintainers and users that if the packages keep on being > >unfit for release, these packages

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 08:27:14PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: Well, I'm not speaking of investing any time now on them, but just to alert their maintainers and users that if the packages keep on being unfit for release, these packages will be removed after release. Why? I'd actually like to se

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Andreas Barth
* Frank Lichtenheld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040618 19:40]: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 06:38:58PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > I'd consider it a good idea if we try to get rid of some of the > > packages that are in unstable, but not in the release of sarge > > ("release" as in: stable -> sarge). I'm

Re: plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 06:38:58PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > I'd consider it a good idea if we try to get rid of some of the > packages that are in unstable, but not in the release of sarge > ("release" as in: stable -> sarge). I'm prepared to do the work for > it, but would like to pre-warn th

plans on orphaning / removing packages not in testing

2004-06-18 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, I'd consider it a good idea if we try to get rid of some of the packages that are in unstable, but not in the release of sarge ("release" as in: stable -> sarge). I'm prepared to do the work for it, but would like to pre-warn the other developers in time. Therefor, I would e.g. like to send a