Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Last Thursday 21 July 2005 15:04, Raphael Hertzog was like: > Le jeudi 21 juillet 2005 à 14:32 +0100, tim hall a écrit : > > Understood. I don't necessarily have the skills to implement it, but I'm > > confident that DeMuDi will be able to provide the information. > > I expect Demudi to be able to

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le jeudi 21 juillet 2005 à 20:23 +0200, Filippo Giunchedi a écrit : > attached there is the preliminary patch against current cvs for adding a new > column "Patches" on the left. Hi Filipo, thanks for the work ! I applied it this morning with a few changes (I point to the directory rather to the

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 05:44:09PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > to improve integration of Ubuntu patches into Debian we need to make > maintainers aware of their existence. So they need to be mentionned in > the PTS. [cut] attached there is the preliminary patch against current cvs

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005, Raphael Hertzog wrote: I expect Demudi to be able to provide patches in the BTS, no ? Or do they have the same resource problem than Ubuntu where a few maintainers are doing so many modifications ? If my information about DeMuDi is correct they try to port back all their st

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le jeudi 21 juillet 2005 à 14:32 +0100, tim hall a écrit : > Understood. I don't necessarily have the skills to implement it, but I'm > confident that DeMuDi will be able to provide the information. I expect Demudi to be able to provide patches in the BTS, no ? Or do they have the same resource p

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Last Thursday 21 July 2005 07:18, Raphael Hertzog was like: > Sorry, that's no how free software works... you can't say "it needs to" > and then expect other people do it for you. I don't. I'll be more careful how I express myself in future. I'm not good at lurking quietly, will try harder. ;)

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le mercredi 20 juillet 2005 à 23:44 +0100, tim hall a écrit : > Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 16:10, Robert Lemmen was like: > > so i'd say: a good way to notify maintainers of patches against their > > packages (apart from the bts) is probably cool. making it > > ubuntu-specific or (yuck!) applying

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 16:10, Robert Lemmen was like: > so i'd say: a good way to notify maintainers of patches against their > packages (apart from the bts) is probably cool. making it > ubuntu-specific or (yuck!) applying these patches (semi-)automatically > is bad. Yup, it needs to work fo

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Robert Lemmen wrote: [cut] > so i'd say: a good way to notify maintainers of patches against their > packages (apart from the bts) is probably cool. making it > ubuntu-specific or (yuck!) applying these patches (semi-)automatically > is bad. I like the general idea however this can be really trick

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 07:57:27AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > They aren't necessarily more important changes, but Ubuntu, unlike other > derivatives, publishes deltas relative to Debian so that maintainers can > review them easily. > > If similar facilities are available for any other Debian d

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 11:46:50AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so > important that they should be singled out by the PTS? They aren't necessarily more important changes, but Ubuntu, unlike other derivatives, publishes deltas relative

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:43:55PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: No, just because there is an Ubuntu patch does not mean the patch should be in the BTS That's obvious. What is desired is that if there is a useful patch that someone submit it to the BTS (perhaps with a wishlist tag) rather than g

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Last Wednesday 20 July 2005 12:00, Robert Lemmen was like: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:33:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > well, but these patches should go into the debian BTS then. I agree with > > Joey here that showing "oh, there is a ubuntu-patch" is not the most > > appropriate thing. >

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Santiago Vila wrote: It should not be a bug to do things differently than Ubuntu. For this purpose there is the "wontfix" tag. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

* Santiago Vila ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 12:45]: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 00:26]: > > > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > > > > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution s

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 12:33:02PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > well, but these patches should go into the debian BTS then. I agree with > Joey here that showing "oh, there is a ubuntu-patch" is not the most > appropriate thing. i tend to disagree. the BTS is for bugs, should they have patches or

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 00:26]: > > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > > > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so > > > important that they should be singled out by the PTS?

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

* Raphael Hertzog ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050720 00:26]: > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so > > important that they should be singled out by the PTS? > Because they're doing a good job and because t

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 00:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 21:07 +0100, Scott James Remnant a écrit : > > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > > > > > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu > > > patches ? The PTS w

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 21:07 +0100, Scott James Remnant a écrit : > On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > > > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu > > patches ? The PTS would download that file and add the URLs somewhere > > appropriate if

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:46 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so > important that they should be singled out by the PTS? Because they're doing a good job and because those changes are done by DD ... and because the interest of bot

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le mardi 19 juillet 2005 à 11:15 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > Please don't do that. Ubuntu's 1.5 mb patch for base-config is > thuroughly useless (as I've mentioned before) and if the PTS starts > nagging me about it, I'll have to stop using the PTS. Agreed, that's why it's better to simply provid

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 17:44 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu > patches ? The PTS would download that file and add the URLs somewhere > appropriate if possible. > http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/PATCHES It's of the forma

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Why are changes made by one particular derived debian distribution so important that they should be singled out by the PTS? Wouldn't it be more useful if the PTS highlighted patches that are actually of interest by those of our users who care enough about working with Debian to file patches in the

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > I'd like to add the integration of patches in the TODO list (much like Please don't do that. Ubuntu's 1.5 mb patch for base-config is thuroughly useless (as I've mentioned before) and if the PTS starts nagging me about it, I'll have to stop using the PTS. -- see shy jo

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 05:44:09PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > to improve integration of Ubuntu patches into Debian we need to make > maintainers aware of their existence. So they need to be mentionned in > the PTS. > > Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 05:44:09PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: >> to improve integration of Ubuntu patches into Debian we need to make >> maintainers aware of their existence. So they need to be mentionned in >> the PTS. > Why wouldn't there just be a

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 05:44:09PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: to improve integration of Ubuntu patches into Debian we need to make maintainers aware of their existence. So they need to be mentionned in the PTS. Why wouldn't there just be a bug filed pointing to the patch? Mike Stone -- To

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Le lundi 18 juillet 2005 à 10:42 -0700, Matt Zimmerman a écrit : > I recommend linking to the index of Ubuntu patches grouped by maintainer, > now provided by Joachim Breitner. Well the PTS is package oriented so the grouping by maintainer doesn't make sense. It would make sense however for the DD

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 05:44:09PM +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > to improve integration of Ubuntu patches into Debian we need to make > maintainers aware of their existence. So they need to be mentionned in > the PTS. I think this is a great idea, also WRT the recent utnubu alioth pr

Re: The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Raphaël Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So the best solution right now is to add links on the left... what do > people think ? I think this would be awesome. -- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

The PTS should list Ubuntu patches

Hello, to improve integration of Ubuntu patches into Debian we need to make maintainers aware of their existence. So they need to be mentionned in the PTS. Scott, can you generate (regularly) a simple list of available Ubuntu patches ? The PTS would download that file and add the URLs somewhere a